The Spiritual Grind
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The Spiritual Grind
Manifest It Backwards
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Daydreaming gets a bad rap, but we’ve found it’s the real starting line for intention setting, mindset change, and manifestation. The problem isn’t that people can’t visualize. The problem is that most of us were trained to treat imagination like fantasy, then we wonder why fear, doubt, and “be realistic” thinking shuts down our goals the moment we try to act on them.
We dig into the missing piece most personal development advice skips: how to use visualization without accidentally keeping your desire stuck in the future. We share our reverse visualization method, where you mentally place yourself months after the goal is already yours and you live from that identity. You’re not rehearsing the first exciting moment of getting it; you’re rehearsing normal life with it, the routines, the calm, the gratitude, and the certainty. That emotional state becomes the signal that guides your decisions, attracts better opportunities, and quiets the monkey mind that keeps asking “how?”
We also talk about why your current reality can mirror yesterday’s beliefs, why chasing validation slows everything down, and how to do a quick 20-second doubt reset that stops emotional spirals before they hijack your day. We wrap with a seven-day challenge you can run morning and night to test this in one area of your life, whether it’s money, health, relationships, or career. Subscribe, share this with a friend who needs it, and leave a review, then tell us what you’re choosing to create next.
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Good morning, everybody. Welcome back to the Spiritual Grind.
SPEAKER_00Good morning.
SPEAKER_02Broadcasting live from Springdale, Arkansas.
SPEAKER_00Whoop whoop. It was quite a Arkansas.
SPEAKER_02Arkansas. It's a little chilly here, a little windy here.
SPEAKER_00It is.
SPEAKER_02Bright-eyed and bushy-tailed in Arkansas.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02That trip took a minute.
SPEAKER_00It was definitely interesting.
SPEAKER_02It was. We made it though.
SPEAKER_00It wasn't actually a bad trip. I mean everything went pretty smoothly.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Of course. I think it went smooth as comparative as we could, I guess. For the first major trip with the motorhome.
SPEAKER_00I was gonna say it was our first real like travel adventure in the motorhome and going from a point A to a point B.
SPEAKER_02For sure.
SPEAKER_00Um because when we officially moved in full time, we kind of just stationed ourselves there in Daytona Beach for several months.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So this was our big first big journey.
SPEAKER_02Yep. And I think we did quite well. Hermitcrab did good. We We had one failure of the topper, and that was it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. But even that was minor.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And just acclimating to driving a little bit every day.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. And I was that was an unsure thing for me. Of course, I had to I was constantly pedaling my feet and stuff since the event, but I just want to make sure everything's kosher, you know.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I can imagine.
SPEAKER_02But anyway.
SPEAKER_00It's interesting to me how it's it's kind of tiring when you are not used to driving.
SPEAKER_02It is very much tiring.
SPEAKER_00I I was I found that very interesting. Of course, you know, when each day when you stop and you have to set everything up and then the next day bed down and then the next day pack everything back up. It's a different way of life, honestly.
SPEAKER_02Oh yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_00I'm glad to be here and be set for a minute.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. But we're here, and so that's all that matters.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01I don't know. That's interesting.
SPEAKER_02Third, fourth, fifth, and sixth. It's four days, so I assume it's Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday. But anyway.
SPEAKER_00That's your job. Come on, man.
SPEAKER_02Right, I'm behind a little bit on it, I guess.
SPEAKER_00Get it together.
SPEAKER_02But anyway, you ready for the topic of the day? And shout out to our all our Arkansas listeners, by the way.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Well, and shout out to our Daytona Beach listeners.
SPEAKER_02Of course. Actually, and Texas listeners.
SPEAKER_00Shout out to all of our listeners.
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Daydreaming As The Start Of Creation
SPEAKER_00I am in I am intrigued on what topic you chose. I have a backup topic.
SPEAKER_02You are also you would you like to bring the topic today?
SPEAKER_00No, you let me see what you pick. Well, see if I approve.
SPEAKER_02Mine is because I don't produce anything here either. It's just good. Um, so mine is about how does daydreaming play into intentions.
SPEAKER_00Ooh. Very nice. And mine was imagination and how it works into the whole mechanism of things. Nice. So we're on the same page and hadn't previously talked about it.
SPEAKER_02I agree.
SPEAKER_00I love how that works.
SPEAKER_02Of course. You know, because here's my my take on it.
SPEAKER_00Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_02I think imagination plays probably 50% or better of intention setting and manifest manifest manifestation of the intentions that you've set.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, my goal today is to share with you the actual secret of the secret of how this all works. That you're not gonna get on the secret. This is the this is the piece that everybody leaves out.
SPEAKER_02Okay. Please do share.
SPEAKER_00Well, not yet. I'm building you up.
SPEAKER_02Oh, you are? I should have a drummer on here.
SPEAKER_00I'm not gonna go straight to the climax. That's not how a good novel works.
SPEAKER_02But you know, for me, so like when we when we put our mind to doing something, you know, we set our intentions around it. And then most of the time, you're the daydreamer of the two of us. You will absolutely.
SPEAKER_00I do not live in reality.
SPEAKER_02You you dream a lot more than I do. I kind of go into human function of starting to manifest that, and that's kind of built into me from a young, very young age.
SPEAKER_00It is actually built into a lot of people um at a very young age. And uh the unfortunate part of that is that at a very young age, we are taught that our daydreams or our imagination is just fantasy, yeah. Giving it the uh illusion that it's not real or that it has no place in the whole mechanism of everything. And it's unfortunate because then you have to train your mind to believe quite the opposite of that.
SPEAKER_02Well, and I want to throw something in there because when I was taking personal development courses back in the day, yeah. One of the things they teach you is to visualize your dreams.
SPEAKER_00Right.
SPEAKER_02And but they don't tell you what to do after that.
SPEAKER_00I am going to tell you.
SPEAKER_02And because that was really part of my schooling in positive mindset was uh becoming what you visualize.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And absolutely.
SPEAKER_02But they don't tell you after you've that's because that used to be my personal development course. I I asked many times. So what do you do after that? What do you do after that? And they and basically they tell you to live by faith.
SPEAKER_00Right. Nobody has taken the time to really give a bullet point step by step. Here's what that looks like. Right.
SPEAKER_02Um they all like the secret. Even the movie The Secret, they it's kind of a hidden thing. That's why they call it the secret, because they don't ever actually reveal the secret.
SPEAKER_00Right. Yeah. They don't ever fully explain the mechanism of how this universal structure works.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_00And even even now you're you're talking about for yourself, you've gone from uh daydreaming, which in school we're we're taught don't daydream. You know, you the the teacher says, Oh, he's just a daydreamer. I can't get him to focus in class, making it out to be like it's a wrong thing or like a negative thing. Right. So we get taught at a very young age that daydreaming is inappropriate.
SPEAKER_02Correct.
SPEAKER_00And the reality of this whole mechanism and the reality behind daydreaming or imagination, which we're also taught, it ha it just has a negative ring about it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Um but imaginary friend.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, we just saw a commercial yesterday with a girl was I think it was on the news actually. She was saying that if you get scared about something, use your imaginary friend and that makes you feel better.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah, yeah. It was on the cartoon station that I was that was on that I was watching.
SPEAKER_02So our age group is starting to teach their grandkids that it's okay to have an imaginary friend.
SPEAKER_00Right. Absolutely. That's what it was. The cartoon I was watching. It was about having imaginary friends.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Remember? Yeah. And the the the little fellow was going to the dentist and he couldn't find his imaginary friend. And so he borrowed his sisters, and it was annoying, and yeah, all of that. Yeah, but I love watching cartoons. Anyways, so let's uh let's dig into this. Everybody got your carrot sandwich open and ready to go, got your fork and your knife in hand. Let's dig into this. So, daydreaming and imagination are actually in fact the first step in creating a reality. Every single thing that we use in our day-to-day basis that we see, that we notice, that we utilize came from somebody, somewhere having an imaginary thought before it existed in reality. Every single thing, every car, every phone, every computer.
SPEAKER_02And Tesla.
SPEAKER_00Every every single thing somewhere began as somebody's imagination.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, Tesla, like when on his video that we the documentary about him, they said that he had actually had a dream and visualized the Tesla coil.
SPEAKER_00Right. Exactly. That's the point I'm making.
SPEAKER_02Yep.
SPEAKER_00Is that we are taught that imagination is just fantasy and it's not beneficial.
SPEAKER_04Right.
SPEAKER_00But the reality is that it is the key component to the beginning of this whole mechanism. Somebody has to think of it. Somebody has to daydream it. Somebody has to imagine it in order for it to take root.
SPEAKER_02Agreed. Everything that we use, this microphone you're using right now, was something the daydream of somebody.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Any and everything. You can look around your office wherever you're at right now, your home. Every single thing that's in existence that you use on a regular basis was somebody's imagination, somebody's daydream.
SPEAKER_02Somebody's idea.
SPEAKER_00Somebody's idea.
SPEAKER_02Yep.
SPEAKER_00And so it was non-existent except for in that individual's or group of people's imagination before it was in imagined existence where you could actually touch it, smell it, taste it, hear it, whatever. So that's number one key component.
SPEAKER_02Which everybody that I know is good at this part. They can imagine stuff and they can wish they were doing things.
SPEAKER_03Mm-hmm.
Why Visualization Fails For Many
SPEAKER_02They wish they had this, they wish they had that. And they but but in my opinion of that, and I don't know what your next step is because it's the first time we've really ever discussed this, is they lose it going from daydream to actually doing the next step. Yes. They don't know what to do.
SPEAKER_00And why do you think that is? What do you think happens?
SPEAKER_02Well, I think it was stifled thought. I think it was from what? From childhood. I think we're stifled from childhood.
SPEAKER_00What is the stifled thought concept?
SPEAKER_02Beliefs. It's you believe that that it's too much for you, or you can't do it, or all that monkey mind thoughts come in that are based around beliefs.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so if you're gonna generalize that into one word, or maybe two, it would be doubt and fear.
SPEAKER_02I would agree.
SPEAKER_00If you doubt that you're worthy, or you doubt that it can happen, or you doubt that you can make it happen, or you're afraid and of its existence and you being a part of it, that right there will stop it in its tracks.
SPEAKER_02Well, you know, and I had uh one time somebody tell me, one of the my friends is one of the clients, actually, he he said, I always wanted to do this, but my dad told me I would never be more than this. And that belief stifled him from creating a couple of things.
SPEAKER_00Because it created a sense of unworthiness.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I agree. And and then another part of that that gets brought up to my attention is the fear of money and being able to finance things. Which stifles dreams.
SPEAKER_00Right. So essentially we're right back to fear and doubt.
SPEAKER_02Mm-hmm. I agree. Yeah, I know. I was just putting that in there.
SPEAKER_00Oh, well.
SPEAKER_02And so when you get to the fear and doubt, I know there's a lot of things. Some people are very good at this. And this is where I think that the human thought processes get broken more. Because like me, I am very good at doing the work. I'm very good at doing the work. And you're very good at daydreaming the stuff. And what's crazy about it is I've always been that dreamer, that guy that can see things, you know, precognitively when I read people's auras and those kind of things. But I've never been able to find the channel to do that for myself. And and I'm working on it. I've been working on that a lot. Um But the I think the the part of it that really stopped, you know, there it seems to be two people. You have the person that can dream, and they just they they don't they don't do any work, then you have the guy that has the the person that has the work that don't really have the dream.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, or you have the person that used to do all the work and learned how to do the dreaming.
SPEAKER_02Right, and we like we Because anybody can do it. Oh, I agree.
SPEAKER_00It's just a technique and it's a it's a trained thought process of kind of doing things in reverse of what we're taught.
SPEAKER_02Okay, please carry on. Your listeners are waiting for your climatic reveal.
SPEAKER_00Ooh. Ah. So here's the here's the thing. You don't even have to do the work.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_00You don't have to go out and physically hammer the square peg into the round hole. As a matter of fact, if you've got fear and doubt in your way, the actions that you're taking to try and make shit happen is actually futile and it's gonna wear you out. You're gonna burn out, and then more doubt comes in and more fear comes in.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_00See, I told you you couldn't do it. I knew you couldn't. You know, then that monkey mind brain starts to conversate in a doubtful way. Right. And so what has to happen is you've got to train a new habit.
SPEAKER_03Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_00Right. Because we unfortunately are a I'll believe it when I see it mentality.
SPEAKER_02Well, people have been taught that. That's actually in the Bible. It's in it's in the majority.
SPEAKER_00Actually, it's not in the Bible.
SPEAKER_02Oh, it is. Have faith. Right, live by faith, not by sight.
SPEAKER_00Not by sight.
SPEAKER_02That's right. It's in it's in six of the major religious books.
SPEAKER_00What I'm saying is most people want to see it before they have the faith, before they believe it.
SPEAKER_02I I agree.
SPEAKER_00And that's what trips them up.
SPEAKER_02I agree. I I think that what I'm trying to communicate is is it's kind of like for example, I can tell you in in the book of Corinthians where they talk about developing your life through your dreams. That is it it almost has the feel throughout the book, even living by faith, not by sight, it kind of has a reverse psychology type of feel to it in the Bible.
SPEAKER_00I don't understand.
SPEAKER_02So, like for example, they say you should live by faith, not by sight.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_02And so if somebody walks up to you on the street and says, You should live by faith, you should not manifest by faith. You should you should manifest by sight.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_02And and it it feels it has the the energy behind it is very much uh that's it's like derogatory almost. Like you're not gonna you're not gonna accomplish it.
SPEAKER_00Well, you know, and that's where that's what I'm talking about, is that's because you have to remember that your reality is a mirror. I will say this time and time again. Your reality is a mirror of the old you, the old energy you had yesterday.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_00It is not the real reality of what you are today. Every morning when you wake up, you wake up a different you. Okay, and you get the opportunity to begin again and to set intentions on who you want to assume, what character you want to assume that day.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_00Whether it be I am I'm done being sick, I'm healthy, and you hold that no matter what your physical body is showing you, no matter what that experience is currently that you're experiencing, you believe and believe, and believe, and you keep telling yourself, I'm healthy.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And depending on your time frame of how long you think that it will take for that to lock into place and you start seeing the effects of that is up to you because time doesn't exist either. It's your construct.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_00But I'm here to tell you it can take seconds if you will open up and allow it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00You can literally wake up the new you and be completely and perfectly healed and happy if that's what you choose to experience. Okay. For most people, it's gotta have a it's it's gotta have some sort of time attached to it, because that too is a construct that that's taught. Things take time. And the irony is that each person has their definition of what takes longer, what takes short amount of time.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_00Like if you have a perspective that five dollars is a small amount and easy to instantaneously manifest into your reality, then that will take less time. If you think$100,000 is big, and oh my god, that's gonna take a while to come into fruition, then a while it shall take.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
The Reverse Visualization Secret
SPEAKER_00So time is a concept of your own individual mind, and those things that you are wanting to manifest are concepts of your own individual mind. Once you have done the job of imagining the thing, the the next part of that is don't look to reality for validation.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_00Because the reality that you're experiencing now is the imagination that you had yesterday.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_00And the day before that, or the uh belief blueprint that you were living in yesterday or the day before.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_00So don't look to your reality for validation. Stay within, stay inside of yourself. The key to it is once you You've decided uh that you've got an imagination and you're gonna embrace that a hundred percent internally, the next steps are to circumvent the doubt and the fear. Okay, and the best way to do that is to actually take your imagination and work backwards. Okay. So what do I mean by that? So normally, naturally, people will uh say, okay, I want to have a new car. So they envision, they visualize what color it is, what does it smell like, what will it feel like to go and get it, what uh what will it feel like to drive it? You hear what I'm saying? And so what that does is when you're visualizing it, you're still visualizing it in future tense, which inadvertently unfortunately is still keeping it out in the future away from you. Okay, and that's the practice that's been taught. Visualize having it, visualize seeing it and smelling it as if you don't already have it. So, what essentially is happening when you're visualizing that in that manner is you're still activating both ends of that concept. You're visualizing and practicing having it, but at the same time, you're inadvertently activating the I don't have it yet. So I'm gonna visualize it in a past tense format, or I mean in a futuristic format, which inadvertently still keeps it away from you.
SPEAKER_04Right.
SPEAKER_00And so then when you wake up every day and you're like, this crap is not working because I it's been 442 days and I still don't have the thing. Well, the reason that you still don't have the thing is you're visualizing it and keeping it in the future. Yeah, you've got locked in the future by saying, Oh, it's gonna smell so nice when I get it, or uh you're interacting with it, yes, as you were taught, and through imagery and mental visualization, but you're doing it from a place of I don't have it yet, so let me toy around with the imagination.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_00So here is the pivotal key, so to speak, to unlock this whole thing. Once you've imagined the thing that you want and you've played around with, all right, I I want a new Jeep, I want it to be yellow, I I want, you know, all the bells and whistles, and you've identified what they are and all of that, then what you do is you take your imagination and you fast forward into the past and you visualize you fast-forwarded into the past. Yeah, or whatever, like you go back into past.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_00So instead of saying futuristically, when I get in it and it's mine, it's gonna have the new car smell, and you take and you live, you move yourself into already having it. Okay, and you have that conversation with yourself.
SPEAKER_03All right.
SPEAKER_00Now that I have my brand new Jeep, I love the fact that I can do this in it. I love the fact that I can have this or it feels like this. Talk about it as from the persona that you already have it. You already drive it every day, you already park it. Go three months i in into the past of already having it and live that life in your imagination.
SPEAKER_02So visualize yourself in the past.
SPEAKER_00Basically, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_00You take your visualizations with.
SPEAKER_02You know, because that actually rang a bell with me for a minute, because a lot of people, I know, and I'm sure with along with me, when we visualize things that we want, we look at ourselves what we would look like in the future.
SPEAKER_00That's right.
SPEAKER_02And so that does make sense, actually.
SPEAKER_00And so you keep it in the future, and you never really bring it that much closer to you when you do that. And so if you'll take and you'll you'll toggle your visualizations or your imagination to what does it look like when I've already owned it for three months? What is what does my life look like already having it sit in my driveway for three months? What does my day look like? What does my persona look like? What character do I morph into? How does that feel inside my body already having that brand new car sitting in my driveway and I'm parking it on the right in my garage or on the left? And I'm I love it and I'm so grateful that I go and part of my routine is every weekend I go and I give it a bath and I clean it all back up and make it all shiny. Um I I love getting in it and imagining, you know, you take yourself to the grocery store in it, and you are living your day-to-day in that vehicle as if you've already owned it for two or three months, even down to making the payment if you finance it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Visualize yourself having already made payment one in this month and payment two, and you're already you wrote the check for the payment that you needed to make for the first three months that you owned it.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Uh visualize paying the insurance on it, visualize um taking it out for a joy ride with the tops down, as though you already own it, and start having that conversation. Then the universe has no choice but to bring it about because, and this has already been scientifically proven, the mind doesn't know what is imagination and what is real. And this has been proven by the athletes who visualize themselves doing free throws or whatever, the mind doesn't know whether it's actually sitting in the driveway or whether it doesn't. The subconscious mind.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So whenever the universe is putting things together to bring that into fruition, because you know like you know, like you know that you already own it, then it the universe has no choice but to bring that into reality.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00You trying to figure out the how is not your business, not your monkey, not your circus. So when the doubt comes in, or when you're trying to figure out the how, which is doubt trying to maintain its clutches on you, you need to come up with a mantra that says, that's not my business, not my bubble. And don't don't don't give it any emotion, don't give it any time. Acknowledge that, oh, you know what? I recognize you, you little booger. Your doubt.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
Drop The How And Stop Negotiating
SPEAKER_00I swipe you aside, I sit you aside, you get none of my attention, you get none of my emotion, and then immediately take yourself back to that visualization of saying, This is already done. I already own it, it is already sitting in my driveway. You get no more of my attention, doubt. Sit down, shut the fuck up. You don't get to play in this game. And begin to do that. And you'll see the manifestation happening very easily and very quickly when you when you begin to play the game in that manner.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00The doubt will still try to keep its armhold on you, and so little snippets of doubt will pop in, but the key is not losing your emotional state of being when the doubt comes in. And how do you do that?
SPEAKER_02So first let me interject.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02When I was coaching baseball, uh-huh. Specifically pitching coach, because I was a pitcher, I loved to pitch. And my coach back in the day taught me when you're on the mound before you throw the ball, uh-huh, close your eyes and see where the ball's going.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Imagine where the ball's going.
SPEAKER_01Exactly.
SPEAKER_02And then before you throw the ball, do it again and then move in to the motion that you visualized.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_02And so basically you're visualizing it and stepping into it.
SPEAKER_01That's right.
SPEAKER_02And and I guess it's and and I used to teach, you know, kids to do it on the mound. I would have them close their keep their eyes closed, and throw the and imagine where the ball's going, right now, is it a strike, is it high inside whatever it is, and then do it with your eyes closed.
SPEAKER_00And then You mean throw the ball with your eyes closed?
SPEAKER_02Yes. And I I mean that was actually an exercise. I did it once a week with all the kids I coached. I had a bunch of them I coached. And I would have them go through this exercise for 15 minutes and then 15 minutes throwing strikes, and it proved that it worked because their literally their strike percentages would jump 20, 30, 40 percent.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And then as the more they do it, they got to where they could, you know, place corners, and they would do it uh very repetitively by moving into that. Because that's that was the next thing that I I taught them was visualize it, throw it with your eyes closed, and then the next 15 minutes is you're gonna get on the mound, you're gonna come set, you're gonna get to your spot, you're gonna visualize what it looks like with your eyes closed, and then before you throw, you're gonna open your eyes and visualize that motion into it. So it's kind of the same scenario that you're talking about is they're just they're not viewing themselves into the future, they're viewing themselves right now and moving into it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that's right. Well, so how but how do you get there?
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_00You've got to assume that persona.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I agree.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that then that's what you can't be the old persona that's full of doubt and fear and get there. You have to assume that new persona. And so how do you do that? You take your imagination and you live three months uh in the past of already owning it, already having it, already playing with it, already interacting with it, whatever that is. And if you'll take a minute and really think about what I'm saying and what I'm telling you, when it is something obtainable based on your beliefs, you do this naturally when you get out of your own way. For example, I'll go with something people generally speaking find easy. When you wake up and you decide, oh, you know what, or maybe you saw a commercial, I'd like to have that shirt. That is the first step. That's an imagination or a mental creation of a thing that you want.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_00And then you make a decision that you're gonna have it, and you actually most people we're gonna stay with the sure concept. Okay, you know what? I'm gonna go buy it. Whatever that story is, whatever justification you had to give yourself, whatever, whatever. If you if you really break down the steps of that, the next thing you do is you structure a time in your busy world of when you can go to the mall and buy that shirt.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Then if you notice, what you do next is you start in your mind saying, Oh, that shirt would look perfect with these pants, that shirt's gonna look great with these pants, I have a blazer in the closet, that shirt's gonna look really great with these pants and these shoes and this blazer. And so in your mind, you're already creating having it and wearing it with the things that are already existent in your closet.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So you're doing the same thing, yeah, just on a note that's more achievable.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Right.
SPEAKER_00Right, because it's a shirt and it's, you know, fifteen, twenty dollars, hundred dollars, whatever that amount of money is doable to you. And so for most people, whenever it's a material thing such as a shirt, doubt doesn't come in and play or toy around much with that. But you're doing this same technique where you imagine and make a decision that it's going to be yours, and I am going as soon as I get off work, and I'm gonna go to the mall and I'm gonna purchase it.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_00And throughout your work day, little desire thoughts come in to pop into your head, and and you'll get those little thoughts of, oh, you know what? I've got the perfect little jacket that is gonna look amazing with that. Yeah, guys, don't do that. I'm just talking with them, whatever. I'm just playing with you. And so if you will stop and think about this steps of this component and this mechanism, you already do it as long as you have a belief that it's a doable. It's when you get to those bigger things that you view as bigger things that is uh for some people a little more challenging.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00But if you'll work the same process, whether it be a$50,000 new vehicle or whatever, uh$100,000 motor coach or$300,000 home, you can manifest that into your reality and all of the howls, which are not your business, will be meticulously and beautifully put into place in ways you could not even conceptualize and be taken care of. Right. You'll have desires and nudges to go and do certain things because you never never know what'll happen. Around the topic.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00But they'll be in line and in flow with getting the next action step done, which is a very different energy and a very different perspective of okay, I want this thing and I have to figure out how to get it. And so in how to get it, I know that when we're gonna take the car, for example. I know that part of the how is I've gotta go and I've gotta finance it. And so I know that my credit's gotta be a certain number. So then you start doing the research on what number your credit has to be, and you've got to have a certain amount of down payment, and that's all based on your belief around what you think it takes to buy a car. Yeah. And so then you take action steps on making sure your credit is up to par and making sure you save for six months, a year, putting money back to make sure you have this down payment that you think you have to have because you're busy worried about how the happens. Right. And the how is not your job. Right. Because I'm gonna tell you, as firsthand users of this technique, down payments don't have to happen.
SPEAKER_02Nope. We had a$200,000 motorhome without a down payment.
Desire As Proof It Already Exists
SPEAKER_00A car or a motorhome or whatever, right? You can walk in there and finance something without a down payment. And we speak from that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, we walked in and bought this.
SPEAKER_00And our credit is not like in the eight or nine hundreds or thousands. Yeah. We're average people and you don't have to have a down payment. So if anybody is running that muck around in their head, let me set the record straight. The how is not your business, right? And you don't have to have a down payment. I'm telling you that. When you release how figuring out how to make something happen, and you take your energy, which now is undivided, and you put it into doing your imagination and your visualization in reverse, so to speak, then the how it magically gets figured out. That's the trap.
SPEAKER_02That's the trap, and I want to bring that into people's thought is when you like, for example, when you manifested the Jeep into our life, because we were gonna buy a gladiator back in the day, and then they were first out, we didn't go buy it. I mean, that then COVID hit and it was nuts, and and then finally you started creating uh uh you started setting intention to buy the gladiator. And a lot of people get caught in this premise right here. Is I'm gonna go do it this way at this place, doing I'm gonna, you know, and it and then they get there, and by the time they get there, they go, they listen to the because of their belief system, they listen to the ri Rickero from the salesman, and because they have now created and it you have to be okay with understanding that you're not gonna manifest the steps, you're gonna manifest the result. Like our steps to buying that Jeep were way different than what we uh what I originally thought about doing.
SPEAKER_00Right. You've got to be open to letting the universe create the steps. That's why I said the how is not your business.
SPEAKER_02Right, and that's where that's the trap.
SPEAKER_00To get from point A to point B is not your business.
SPEAKER_02Just go do them that way. Right.
SPEAKER_00Go to buy the car, for example, and the finance person starts giving you their nonsense.
SPEAKER_02Because they're trying to make more money.
SPEAKER_00That is not your belief system, and it is not your how. And that conversation is okay, well, I I don't care how it gets done. I'm not putting a deposit down. And if you can't make it happen, then I'll find somebody who can.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_00Be willing to have that place not be the place where you buy it because you're not willing to buy into his or her being the salesperson their beliefs around that because they're working from their own template of beliefs and how they were taught and what their uh what their job objective makes them go through. That doesn't mean you have to buy into it.
SPEAKER_04Right.
SPEAKER_00That doesn't mean that it has to look that way, right? But you have to let go of and release. Oh my gosh, okay, this is a sign of okay, well, he's saying I have to have a down payment. Okay, so maybe I was wrong, and maybe this is the universe reinforcing the fact that yes, I need a down payment. Rongo bongo, absolutely wrong.
SPEAKER_04Right.
SPEAKER_00That is doubt creeping in hanging on to and creeping in, trying to survive.
SPEAKER_02Agreed.
SPEAKER_00When you and the beautiful thing is, and an and an interesting way to look at that, is when you have those moments of doubt creep back in, it's what what you can how you can look at that is is that if doubt is still kind of creeping back in, that means I'm getting closer and closer to manifesting and on and accepting and receiving the thing that I want because doubt is having to pull out all of its stops to get me to come back to the world of living in doubt. That means it's losing its firm hold, it's losing its grip. Right. And you're getting better and better at not living in the world of or the matrix of doubt and fear. Right. When it starts doing those little pop back up for a second kind of things, it's trying all it can to get you to come back over to that side.
SPEAKER_02And and this is this is actually a a System that works in many different ways. Absolutely. It doesn't work just with money. It works in all ways. It works. Yeah, I I totally agree with you because I've uh as we were talking about it, there's things in my life that I do it in and things I don't.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. And if and if anybody will stop and really talk to themselves and really conceptualize what I'm saying, they'll recognize that they do it in areas.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. And it's the easiest part of their life, probably.
SPEAKER_00That's right. And so start doing it in all the areas. It works in every single area. The universe does not have eyes. The universe does not have ears. It goes on emotions. How you feel when you set your intention. How does it feel whenever you're talking yourself through something that you desire, something that you want?
SPEAKER_02And open the open the flow gates. Let it allow the whatever's going to happen, happen. That's right. And because, like, for example, you know, we we yeah, we've had people say, I want a new job. I want to go somewhere else. I want I want this job. I want to go do this. I've always wanted to go do it. And but they won't, they will not, even though the breadcrumbs fall in their path, they will not leave the job they're in. They won't go do something else for now. They won't, and and you don't know. That could be a step that's being created because that's what's got to get you out of what you're doing. You're stuck in a habit.
SPEAKER_00Right. So let's talk about that for a second, too, because that's part of this and it's a very juicy topic.
SPEAKER_02Yep.
SPEAKER_00When you get that notion, that desire, that want that pops into your head, that is not just a random, I want this, but I'm not supposed to have it. I want it, and I'm supposed to suffer without it.
SPEAKER_04Right.
SPEAKER_00That is not how this is all designed. When you get that moment where you want the thing that you want, whether it be a job, a relationship, a new car, a new house, whatever, that is desire. And so let's talk about that. You are not given the desire to want something unless it has already manifested and is ready for you to align with it and it exists in a reality. Right. Otherwise, if it didn't already exist in a reality, there would be nothing to want.
SPEAKER_04Right.
SPEAKER_00There would be nothing to desire. Right. So the fact that you're desiring it, the fact that you're wanting it means it is already done, it is already created in that reality. Your job now is to line up with it. Right. And you do that by what I just explained and revealed to you the secret is knowing, like you know, like you know, that it already exists because you had the desired thought. You had the want thought. That means the universe, God, your higher self, whatever you name that thing that exists, has already created it and put it into play in the reality. Right. It's sitting there waiting for you.
SPEAKER_02And here's a prime example of this that happened to me yesterday.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02When I was down in the office here in the new at the RV park, and uh this lady is she drives a I mean a very high-end Mustang 5.0. It's a special edition or something.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_02And I was like, why that's a heck of a car? Because it's you can tell it's like high horsepower.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And uh she's like, oh my god, yeah, it's such a I've always I always wanted one.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And uh she said, I was driving an old Ford pickup, and she said she'd always daydreamed this, and then she saw a commercial the day before. She's like, Man, I would do anything for the to get that Mustang 5.0 convertible, the whole Sherbang.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And uh she said when I and then I took my truck and I was gonna go trade it in, not even thinking about the Mustang.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_02She said, All I did was I was I was urged that morning to get rid of this truck because it's gonna cost me a bunch of money if I don't.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
Handling Doubt With A 20-Second Reset
SPEAKER_02And I walked in there and I was sitting there talking to the salesman. I had went and test drove a couple of trucks, and then the sales manager drives this car on to the showroom floor.
SPEAKER_01Yep.
SPEAKER_02Right to her left, and revs it up and turns it off.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And she turned around and she said, How do I get that car? To the salesman. And he's like, Oh, this is this, and he said, I don't care. I'm not asking you that question. Is that car sold? And he said, No. She said, Well, I want it. And he said, What if you want to test right? He said, and she said, No, I want that car.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And the guy went back and he said, I don't know with your credit score, because they'd already run her credit.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_02And uh, and she said, Well, tell the sales manager that if he doesn't sell me that car, I am not buying anything.
SPEAKER_00There you go.
SPEAKER_02And she came, and then the guy came back 15 minutes later with paperwork and she bought it and drove it off. It's brand new. It's sitting down here. She just did this last week.
SPEAKER_00And that's exactly what I'm talking about. When you go in as that new person, assume that new character, and you know, like you know, like you know.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_00Because she's Then anything is possible.
SPEAKER_02Right. She said, I was she said, uh, I told the salesman, if they can approve me for this car, they can approve me for that car. That's right. And she said, because she got a little angry that guy said, Oh, with your credit score, what's the what she said, what's credit score gotta do with anything? I'm gonna drive that car out of here today, or I'm not driving anything.
SPEAKER_00That's right. And so it was it was she made the determination that that is the car she was gonna have.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_00And even if she had to walk out the door with nothing, which freed the energy of the beliefs. That's right. That's right. And it eliminated the doubt and the fear. And so that very moment she stepped into that timeline where her having and owning and driving that car is where she stepped into. Right. She didn't have to do any circus act to do it, she didn't have to do any bullshit to her mind, is what she said. She didn't allow his garbage to interfere with her and take her back to that place of doubt and didn't let all that creep back in. She made a decision that I own this car. I am driving this car out the door. And if you're not gonna sell it to me, I'll find somebody who will, period. Because that's the new me of of who I am.
SPEAKER_02She said I sit there in that seat and I said to myself, I'm not gonna keep getting caught up in this trap of buying these freaking cheap vehicles that I don't want.
SPEAKER_00Exactly.
SPEAKER_02And and she said, as the salesman walked away because she was mad at this guy now. Yeah. Because he tried to tell her she couldn't have it.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_02And so that's when she put her foot down and said, Either I drive out with that or I drive out with nothing. Do you want to make a sale today?
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_02And because I mean it. That's and then the guy walked out.
unknownMm-hmm.
SPEAKER_02And I was like, Well, good, that's great for her, you know. She said, I just it's something, a switch just flipped in me.
SPEAKER_00That's right.
SPEAKER_02And that's that thing. That's those things. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00That's exactly what I'm talking about. Knowing like you know, like you know, and not accepting anything else.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_00Let that flip, let that switch flip in any area of your life. Yep. No matter how big or small you think it is, when you bec when you become that person that says, Nope, I am I am taking this home. I am owning this. I own this now. This is mine, and I will accept nothing less. Period.
SPEAKER_02So flip the switch from manifesting to believe.
SPEAKER_00That's right. That switch flips. Yeah. Now, if you're having a little struggle with it, the technique I taught you is uh, you know, go in reverse.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Take your visualization of the thing that you've imagined and created that you want, and stop living as though it's in the future when I get it, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, right, and fast forward three months of already having it and daydream about what it's like in your life to have that person, thing, whatever it is, and what does your day look like having that thing in your life? Daydream about that.
SPEAKER_04Right.
SPEAKER_00What does it look like when you get up out of the bed? What does it feel like? What is it? You know, what does what does it create in a in a feeling sense? What kind of emotions does it create? Explore all avenues of that daydream, just like we teach you, you know, daydream about the thing that you want, taste it, smell it, go test drive it. Now take your daydreams and put them three months in the past. You've already gotten it, you already own it, it already sits in your driveway. What does it feel like to get up? That's right. What does it feel like to get in the car in the morning, turn it on? What does it sound like? What does it smell like when you're already driving it to that job or wherever you're going in it? Yeah. Take your imagination to already having it and live that way.
SPEAKER_02You know, uh in the personal development course, Coach Foster would say to you, you need to go get you a book and name it three months ago. Of course, he didn't, he did I didn't know that this was going to come into my reality, and I didn't know the other steps that we you've added to it today. And he said, Write down the things that you want and draw a write down and describe a scene with you with whatever that is.
SPEAKER_01That's right.
SPEAKER_02And then three months from now, go back and check it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that's right.
SPEAKER_02Every three months, go check your book and and see if you've manifested it or not.
SPEAKER_00But check it from the energy of I don't have it yet. Yeah. Don't check it from that doubtful kind of energy by looking at reality and saying, see, I told you this wouldn't work. I don't have it yet. Right. And he you have to remember that your current reality that you live in, it will show you, mirror to you yesterday's persona.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00It will and so if yesterday you were still living kind of in that doubt place, or doubt pops in and you're giving it an emotional interaction. Right. And hear me. If doubt pops in and you're giving it an emotional interaction, stifle it, it it will cause you to relive not having the thing that you want.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So let me go into a little bit of an explanation here. If you are used to unconsciously living with uh doubt and you're doing that unconsciously, where you, you know, you want this thing and you believe that it's bigger than what you can actually manifest, your doubt mechanism will convince you to stay exactly where you're at and not do anything towards that. Yeah. If that's the habit that you are used to living, then that is going to creep in and catch you off guard by surprise. And if you're not taking the 20-second doubt reframe technique that I've given you and learning a new way and a new habit of how to deal with the doubt, it will keep feeding your energy will be split.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So you're imagining the thing you want, but yet you're still giving doubt a portion of your energetic mind as well. Then yeah, your reality's not going to reveal that or it will take longer. Agreed.
SPEAKER_04Agreed.
SPEAKER_00So whenever doubt does pop in, and it will, if you are one who lives habitually by the doubt concept, with the monkey mind, I guess. You gotta do that 20-second reframe and acknowledge the doubt with no emotion. Oh, I recognize you, you little funny bastard.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, little bastard.
Seven-Day Challenge And Announcements
SPEAKER_00Your doubt. And it can be cloaked as fear or um, you know, it it still is the core of doubt. Yeah. When you feel that fear, or you feel that anxiety, or you feel that, uh, I can't really do it, so just forget about it. Um energy within your core of your being, acknowledge that as okay, this is doubt, still trying to hang on. Acknowledge it, but don't give it an emotion.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And tell it to shut the fuck up. Whatever that wording is for you. Yeah. Sit down, you get no, you get no uh attention from me. I am not gonna play in that world. I'm not following you down this trail of words that take you into that place of convincing yourself that you can't have the thing because you followed doubt right into the forest of I can't have it. Yeah. Don't go there. As soon as you recognize that it's doubt, find that neutral place where it doesn't get to cause anxiety, uh, hopelessness, yeah, um, disappointment. Take yourself back into that visualization of I and say the words. You know what? I acknowledge your doubt, but listen, you can fuck off because I already own this thing.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I already interact with it. The money is already in my bank, the car is already sitting in my driveway, the shirt is already in my wardrobe, and I am wearing it every day if I want to. Yeah. Take yourself back into that visualization, that imagination of already owning it, and spend the other 19 seconds of doing that visualization of where you already own it and you're already interacting with it, and it's three months after you've bought it or purchased it. How does that feel? Right. Find that feeling. Agreed. If it's money that you're trying to manifest, find the visualization of having already have it in your bank account. And then when you get there and you see it in your visualization in your bank account, search yourself for what that would actually feel like. It feels like peace, it feels like I can breathe. Yeah, it feels like calm. It feels like I am so grateful because I can pay this bill. I can buy this thing. I've always said I can take this trip, whatever that is, but feel the feelings in your body once you've done the visualization.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_00Find that vibrational frequency of the whatever feeling it's gonna bring about to you, knowing that you already have that thing.
SPEAKER_03Yep.
SPEAKER_00Like it. That's what the universe works on. It works on the vibrational frequency of how you feel.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And you can test the theory because as soon as you go back to the doubt, feel that feeling. It feels like shit. It does not feel good. And then take yourself back to the already having it and set with that and find that feeling. They're two different feelings.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And so get a gauge on and calibrate with those two different feelings so that when you go into that feeling, whether doubt's calling it fear, or I told you so, or see this sign from the fucking universe says you can't have it.
SPEAKER_02Or a salesman.
SPEAKER_00You right, or salesman. You can recognize in your feeling body that nope, that's just doubt. I recognize it and I do not accept it. I am in back in this feeling. Yeah. And then find yourself back to that feeling of already having it, already owning it, already driving it, already spending it, already loving on a lover, whatever that is. It works in every single area of life.
SPEAKER_02Perfect. Like it.
SPEAKER_00Try it. Seven-day challenge. Seven-day challenge. Pick one topic of something that you have wanted to bring into your life. And every day, every morning when you get up, intentionally set the groundwork for the kind of day that you're gonna have. Things are always working out for me.
SPEAKER_03Perfect.
SPEAKER_00Take a few minutes to say that statement, then take a few minutes to visualize already having the thing that you want, already playing with it, already touching it, already in existence.
SPEAKER_02Put your visions into the past.
SPEAKER_00Right. In the past, already having had it for three months.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00What does my day look like now that I already have it and I've had it for a couple of months? Right. Like it. Like it's a car. And you feel the need to go and buy a burger and you spill your first mayonnaise and lettuce on the seat, you know, feel those feelings because you already own it. What does life look like? The news worn off, so now I'm gonna let people eat in it. Right?
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_00And do that in the morning because that's the person that you want to assume. That's the character that you want to become. For sure. And if you'll do that when you get up in the morning, do that when you go to bed, that for seven days, and then comment how did your life change? What did you see change in your reality? We would love to hear it because I assure you, change will happen. Change will happen. Seven-day challenge. I challenge you.
SPEAKER_02Perfect.
SPEAKER_00Because it when you do it at bedtime, you're an open vessel when you go to sleep. Yep. All of the doubt bullshit, all of that monkey monk talk, all that goes away.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And so when you set the tone to go to bed and to experience already having this thing that you want or this person that you want, then uh real magic can work and work very quickly.
SPEAKER_02Yep, I like it.
SPEAKER_00So there you have it. There's the secret.
SPEAKER_02There's the secret. Alrighty. Well, are you complete?
SPEAKER_00I am complete.
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