The Spiritual Grind
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The Spiritual Grind
Why Humans Resist Change (And How to Reprogram Your Mind)
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Most people think they fear change, but what they’re really experiencing is a survival program stuck on repeat. In this episode we break down why humans resist change, how past experiences create “copy-paste” belief patterns, and the tools you can use to reset your nervous system, reprogram your mindset, and move forward with clarity. Change is inevitable, but fighting it is optional. In this episode of the Spiritual Grind Podcast, we explore how to navigate life transitions without letting fear run the show.
We start with updates from our world, including upcoming travel, events, and what we’ve been building behind the scenes. Then we introduce Jin Dan Yoga, our unique blend of yoga and Chinese medicine meridian work designed to support nervous system regulation, energy balance, and emotional alignment. By working with both the physical body and the energy body, the goal is simple: release what’s stuck, keep what strengthens you, and step into your day with greater clarity and calm.
“why humans resist change” From there we dive into one of the biggest human challenges: why we resist change. Fear of the unknown is wired into our survival instincts, but it doesn’t have to control your decisions. We unpack the “copy-and-paste” pattern where past pain becomes a rule for every new situation, quietly blocking healing, relationships, career growth, and spiritual development.
We also share practical tools you can use immediately, including journaling techniques for reframing “what if” thinking, listing solutions to calm the mind, and using frequency interrupters to break emotional spirals. We talk about self-hypnosis, belief reprogramming, and the power of language in shaping your nervous system and your reality. Plus we explore the trap of **“them esteem,” living according to other people’s expectations instead of your own path.
If you're interested in energy healing, nervous system balance, or personal transformation, we also introduce Meridian Reset, a simple entry point into meridian-based energy work.
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Welcome And Expo Travel Plans
SPEAKER_00Good morning, everybody. Welcome back to the Spiritual Grind.
SPEAKER_03Good morning.
SPEAKER_00I'm sorry, we've been missing a couple days. We're gearing up for our expo run around the United States. We're starting out in Springdale, Arkansas, on uh April 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00At the uh Ozark Research Institution, Power of Thought School, that they do annually.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, very exciting.
SPEAKER_00People from all over the world to be there.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00They are they're like 30,000 members deep.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. But they're from all over the world.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, all over the world. Yeah. They have they have a larger group that comes every year from Japan.
SPEAKER_03I was gonna say I think a lot of their people are from Japan.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, they have a lot. And uh Ukraine, she said. That's what she was telling me on the phone. They have like uh almost 700 members from Ukraine, and they normally see like twenty or thirty of them every year. Yeah. Pretty cool. Anyway, so we'll be at the Ozark Research Institution annual Power of Thought School, which is in Springdale, Arkansas. You can find that information at Ozarkresearch Institution.com. Or you can look at uh our website too. There's a link in there in the event that links to their website. Uh it's in our event schedule.
SPEAKER_03Right. I also put the uh link for the website in the description.
SPEAKER_00The podcast it'll be in the description. Great.
SPEAKER_03Uh in the podcast.
SPEAKER_00In the podcast. So that'd be that'll be fun.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, we're gearing up, we're ready to go. We're getting all of our greeting cards, we're getting all our stuff for our booth and got our fancy stand-ups for our yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03We got some of those fan advertising things.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, the stand-up.
SPEAKER_03I'm waiting patiently to see them work.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, oh yeah, holographic. That's my focus on tomorrow, I think, is is getting those done. Yeah, I can't wait. I think three is gonna be too many. And probably bought one too many.
Booth Prep And Online Links
SPEAKER_03And so because uh then maybe I'll put one on my desk that has, you know, some affirmations or maybe video of Yoda or something.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, for sure. Um anyway, so uh we're at Jindan Yoga's going. The website is up for that, by the way. It's uh gindanyoga.net.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Uh you can become a member there and get access to the uh video library that's there for your sessions at home, and you can you can live link to the uh through the calendar into the Zoom conference, like for every uh uh uh session that Danielle does live. You can be able to join in no matter where you are in the world.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah. We do beach sessions, we do moonlight sessions.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Um she does uh beach yoga on Sundays, I think it is.
SPEAKER_03Right, right.
SPEAKER_00New mornings.
SPEAKER_03And then uh she does the full moon sessions.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Yeah, that'll be that'll and you'll be able to live stream that. So no matter where you're on the world, if you would like to join in, you can do that. It'd be pretty easy. Absolutely. That's a gindanyoga.net. You can go directly to the website, or you can find the link that's in our uh on our website too, under our brands.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, so Jin Dan is our unique uh combination of uh yoga and Chinese medicine, specifically the meridians. Yeah, it's we've incorporated uh several different kinds of routines where you actually take both techniques and we've twist tied them together.
SPEAKER_00Twist tied them.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. So you get both.
SPEAKER_00And Danielle's doing an awesome job with it.
SPEAKER_03And we've had such great, amazing feedback.
SPEAKER_00You know, right, it's been great.
SPEAKER_03The clients.
SPEAKER_00You know, it's always smart to do your research when you're starting a new business. And when Jenny and Danielle come together to do this, it was uh at first, you know, of course, you know, ChatGPT will tell you all sorts of lies. And you want to and it says you all this stuff.
SPEAKER_03Listen, don't bash chat. There's enough people out there bashing chat.
Jin Dan Yoga Explained Simply
SPEAKER_00And uh the funny part about it is you know, it it it it they'll they'll butter your bread quite good. And so you have to do the actual research. And I did, I did there, and there is nobody, I can find nobody in the world doing it. And the reviews from the people that are that participate in it are top-notch. Yeah. And so, you know, a market study is a fast way to say, hey, what do you have? Is it good or is it not good? And 100%, 97% is what I figured, success rate on it, and how people are gonna improve with it.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah. We do the uh uh introductor introductory alignment flow on Wednesdays.
SPEAKER_00Yep, that's at the park. Wow, what's the name of that park? Can't remember. But anyways, the link is on our website. It's on both sides.
SPEAKER_03So if you want to attend live, you can always join us there on Wednesdays.
SPEAKER_00Or you can two, you know, it's at one. At one and you can meet at uh the beach. Um can I finish? Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_03That is also being recorded and uploaded.
SPEAKER_00Correct.
SPEAKER_03So if you can't do it live, you can always tap in to the recordings.
SPEAKER_00That's right.
SPEAKER_03Um at Jin Dan Yoga.
SPEAKER_00There's one in the library now. Yeah, there's a I put one in the library last week.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Um for that's actually a live one from the park in Daytona Beach. And then on Sundays, uh Danielle does yoga on the beach as well in Daytona Beach. And so if you're in the area and like to participate in a Jin Dan Yoga, she told me she was switching everything over to that there for that session and uh get in there, get in there early.
SPEAKER_03I believe she said she says contact through gindanyoga.net and send an email.
SPEAKER_00You can send an email on the website, or you can just send an email directly to gindanyoga at gmail.com. Um or you can send an email to support at the merchcenters.org and uh you'll get a you'll get the auto feed of the schedule and everything as well.
SPEAKER_03I see.
SPEAKER_00Um just put it in your topic line, Jindan Yoga, which it'll auto fill once you click on it for support.
SPEAKER_03Gotcha.
SPEAKER_00It auto fills in that tells you what your question's about for you.
SPEAKER_03I see.
SPEAKER_00Um but anyway, so yeah, the annual the membership is thirty-nine dollars a month. It gets you access to all the live yoga right in your home. You can do it from your house because this is a YouTube channel, so you can actually pull it up on your house if you have a Roku channel. And uh or any way to live stream to your actual television, so you can do yoga right in your living room.
SPEAKER_03Right, exactly.
SPEAKER_00And so, which is kind of one of the prompters to developing this was for you.
SPEAKER_03Right. Yeah, you know, everything I create is is for my own personal use and convenience. I wanted a way to I, you know, I'm busy creating and doing and usually working from I uh work from home.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03And I would get up. I love the way yoga makes my body feel, but I also am an avid uh daily user of my meridian work and my Chinese medicine practice. And I was like, you know what? One day a light bulb came above my head, and I was like, for convenient purposes, I could whittle this down. Um, and my morning getting ready time could be shrunk, basically, if I did both of these at the same time. Yeah, that's how this all got born.
SPEAKER_00So it was kind of prompted by laziness.
SPEAKER_03No kidding. Efficiency.
SPEAKER_00Efficiency. That's a better way to look at it, I guess.
SPEAKER_03It's okay to be lazy and promote being lazy, but lazy has such a negative, heavy connotation around it. It was uh uh exchanged in my brain for efficiency.
SPEAKER_00Correct.
SPEAKER_03So by combining the two, it made me more efficient at getting ready for my day, so I could go on and get things done that I needed to get done.
SPEAKER_00Especially in it is really helpful for for a healing process like we've been going through. It is actually you know, it's and it's and it seemed to be a little bit of a challenge process, but that's all right, we'll get there. It's all right. We need to do that.
SPEAKER_03What's the challenge?
SPEAKER_00The healing, the it's not healing as fast as my human wants me to.
SPEAKER_03Healing will only go as fast as you allow it.
SPEAKER_00That is correct.
SPEAKER_03That's right. Yeah, but doing the Jindan yoga, it definitely can bring profound results because you're moving the body in such a way where you're allowing the energy and the trauma drama to release from the fascia and the lymph system, and um you're working with the yin and the yinning, and each meridian has uh different um earth, water, yeah. It's tied to different things like that, the different chakras. And then when you uh add the energy meridians to the yoga, which is the same premise, it just really basically amplifies the intention of releasing, letting go, realigning all of that energy flow.
SPEAKER_01Yep, I agree.
SPEAKER_03Giving the body permission to let go of what it no longer needs and getting aligned and synchronized with what actually is beneficial to stay around and get it going in the proper direction. Most people don't work with their energy.
SPEAKER_01Right, I agree.
SPEAKER_03And have never been taught how to work with their energy. There's some people out there that don't even know that you have basically a physical body and an energy body.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
Healing Benefits Of Meridians Plus Yoga
SPEAKER_03And so our introductory alignment. You know, it's funny how humans just forget that is a great way to start working with newcomers to yoga and especially newcomers to the energy part of it with the meridians, because it's a nice slow-paced uh first introductory session where we really just focus on uh stretching that body, bringing in those meridians, tracing them, flushing them out if we need to.
SPEAKER_00You know, everybody says all the time, humans say it all the time. I still have the energy to do that, or I'm tired today, or whatever. People they recognize that they have energy and that we we have energy in our body, but they don't understand that just like everything else in your body, it has maintenance.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_00And so, like, like because I had one of the ladies tell me that one of the yogis uh after the last session last Wednesday, she was like, you know, there's one thing I noticed, my balance is better. Like, there's one girl, she's brand new.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00She's like, it in less than a week and a half that I've been doing this and watching the video online, I have I I don't have the soreness. I'm not sore anymore.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_00And and it would seem like it went really fast. And she can actually do, she's already do some of the poses that people tell her, of course, you know, it's it's all belief, but that uh it takes a little longer to do some of these poses. And she's like, hey, I'm I'm hammering them in my living room.
SPEAKER_03Exactly. Yeah, bringing in the balance techniques because that's one of the things that we incorporate in some of the sessions is there's an actual technique to get your energy uh realigned with just balance itself. So if you're finding that you're off balance and can't hit some of the yoga poses, yeah, that balance technique would be very beneficial. And the more times you you basically put your body into training mode.
SPEAKER_01Yep.
SPEAKER_03And the more times that you get used to running that energy and working with it, you'll see improvement. Improvement on your stamina, your balance, your and when you when you're finding that in the yoga classroom, that spills over into your personal classroom.
SPEAKER_01Yep.
SPEAKER_03And what will then begin to happen is you'll feel your energy overall finding a calmer state of being.
SPEAKER_01Yep.
SPEAKER_03And what that leads to is the ability to process situations and circumstances more efficiently and be responsive rather than reactive. Right. What does that mean? That means you'll find yourself in a calmer state of being so that instead of going straight to frustrated or anger, you'll find that you are calmer, calmer.
SPEAKER_00Not responding as quickly.
SPEAKER_03Not you don't you're not screaming at the people in traffic anymore.
SPEAKER_00You're not screaming No more road rage.
SPEAKER_03Right. You're not uh being tart with the grocery store shop uh checkout lady because it remove all your road raids.
SPEAKER_00Right. Go ahead.
SPEAKER_03No promises, but you'll find it softening for sure.
SPEAKER_00For sure. Yeah, that's what one of the ladies says. She's been doing yoga for 30 plus years.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And she this she feels like that this has been missing the whole time.
SPEAKER_03Excellent.
SPEAKER_00And and so and then it's really a cool place to think about, but because it feeds into the subject for the podcast today, is she's like, I'm I'm going to do both. Uh I'm gonna do normal yoga in her membership, and she's gonna do Jin Dan because it it is changing the way things feel in her life.
SPEAKER_02That's true.
SPEAKER_00And uh it was it was a great testimonial that I had. Wish I had recorded that one that day, but I we do see we do have a recording from her, but some of the responses are been astronomical. But it changed over to the Jin Dan yoga, you know, and it's okay to do both. It's okay to do both, totally. And if you want to learn more about the meridians, Dr. Jenny just released a book that's uh available on Amazon. It's called the Meridian oh, it's called Meridian Reset.
SPEAKER_03That's right.
SPEAKER_00And uh it's not the Meridian Reset, don't look it up that way. It's Meridian Reset book. Yeah, exactly. And uh we'll have some of those with us at the conventions as well. But uh if you want to get it on Amazon, it is available.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Um it will be a series because the energy work is a very in-depth and so I can't take people from zero to sixty in one book.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it would be it would be like 19 textbooks.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, right. Uh so the first book is just kind of an introductory where we ease you into the concept, yeah, give you some easy techniques on how to get started with your daily routine, yeah, and how to set that up. And then there'll be additional books that come. Yeah, because like I said, people don't realize how deep it flows, pun intended, throughout the whole physical body.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, totally. They that's like they did they acknowledge it, but they or they they know it's there, but they don't acknowledge it truly. Right. It's kind of fun. Yeah, kind of fun to watch, actually.
SPEAKER_03How it's tied into the lymphatic system and the hormones.
SPEAKER_00Science is proving it now too. That's really great.
SPEAKER_03Science is finally coming up to speed on what those of us already know and joining us there, which is a beautiful, beautiful um joining together.
SPEAKER_00I seen a video yesterday. You know, could me being the aura guy. I like to, you know, I do aura readings and yeah, I found a video yesterday on YouTube of the government actually having photography of the auras around a person.
SPEAKER_03Oh, cool.
SPEAKER_00It's actually video. And so they have figured out some way to figure out the energetic exchange between people. They've started studying it at the end.
SPEAKER_03Did they release the video where you could actually watch it?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's on YouTube. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03How close is it to the way you see it?
SPEAKER_00Oh, very, very, very close.
SPEAKER_03Oh, very close.
SPEAKER_00So it was like cool to me.
SPEAKER_03It was like I know over the years you've told you that yesterday and I just totally forgot. We've talked about how there's certain products out there that try to do that, but you always say way different. Yeah, you always say that you it doesn't look anything like that.
SPEAKER_00It doesn't look anything like one of those photographer things.
SPEAKER_03Right, where they take the photo or they do the little computer thing at the fairs and stuff.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it was pretty you know what in it what the video is on is on YouTube under Studying Transfer Spike Proteins or something. It popped up in my YouTube feed and how the government discovered auras. And I was like, what? And I saw I open it and read it, and that's what happened is they were trying to figure out how from the COVID vaccine or whatever this is kind of conspiracy theory in a way, but I don't really want to go there. But they were trying to figure out how this pro the spike proteins are being airborne from the people that did take the vaccine and didn't. And in the process of doing that, they accidentally discovered the aura exchange between people. And it's a really cool video.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And I was like, that's what I see. I was like, in the morning, it was like five o'clock in the morning, you weren't up. I was like, that's what I see.
SPEAKER_03He's like, duh. Yeah. We're glad you finally caught up with us.
SPEAKER_00It's kind of crazy, but anyway. But Jindan Yoga made me prompt this morning about the topic of the podcast because the Wednesday in the in the uh live recording that we did of Jindan, the lady afterward, uh said, you know, I think I'm gonna not change, but I'm going to move into doing both.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_00And so it it made me it prompted the thought of uh accepting change in our life. Oh and how we view change. And because, you know, I've I've heard for years that we people get set in their ways and and they become stagnant, and you know, and I remember taking personal development courses in high school that taught to never be stagnant.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_00And back then, but now it's like they teach us the opposite. You know, even now with the online stuff and all the AI, people work from home a lot, and so they become stagnant in their own energy. And so I that convert that one little sentence that she gave me, it prompted me to really think about how change in our life is so important.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_00And why we don't accept change. And when we do accept change and why, what is the difference? And so, like my processes were thinking of oh man, you know, changing from being this business-minded entrepreneur guy to to s switching over and accepting, you know what? I have been forcefully handling business for years. And I've got to let spirit handle it. I gotta let my higher powers help it handle it. You okay?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, but I just reaching for my coffee. It is a spiritual grind.
SPEAKER_00And uh so we uh I you know, my thought process of that is how do you a teach people change, you know, because in my book, uh uh Unlocked uh Prison of Purpose, that's on Amazon, I talk about how I changed by doing these steps. You know, and some people just aren't about steps. Some people are understanding a more fluid change. And with you in your book, Scripture from Within, you take up you talk about change too and understanding that your reality is scripted from within and how to allow that to be what it is.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_00And accept the change behind it. And so you're talking about two to three different ways. You know, like me, it was uh kind of a male perspective on change. And for you it's kind of more of a m female perspective, you know, with our backgrounds a little different. It it it it hits both, men and w both of the books hit men and women both. Yeah. But i in in the process of going through this thought process, I'm thinking I just want to put out there that mine has nothing to do with gender. It has nothing to do. Well, mine doesn't either, but I was just saying that's what I was thinking. I was talking explaining my process and how I was kind of identifying your book with my book. Because like mine's one way, yours is another way, and it's they still are both very little about change.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And so then the problem was is I wasn't accepting the fact that my change was perfect. And your change is perfect. I was accepting I wasn't accepting that fact when there's more than there's more than one way to skin a cat, so to speak.
SPEAKER_03Oh yeah. And close your ears plumly. It's like I won't let him skin you, even if you are having a bad day, girl.
Auras And Energy Exchange Curiosity
SPEAKER_00And uh understanding that it's okay, change is supposed to be there in our life, that's why we're here. And being having more than one way of change, because like the the lady said, Yeah, I'm gonna incorporate both of them because she's not willing to commit to change. And when the whole process of change is what we're supposed to have as humans.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, so change is gonna happen in inevitably.
SPEAKER_00Right.
SPEAKER_03Whether you're gonna allow it or not, change happens.
SPEAKER_00Right.
SPEAKER_03Because the mechanism doesn't allow anything else.
SPEAKER_00Correct. Because you have to have change for experience.
SPEAKER_03The the the the simple fact of we can we can go in many different directions with this. Right. Your physical body changes every day because every 120 days you get new red blood cells.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03It's inevitable. There's nothing you can do about it. And your conceptual reality where we get wonky sometimes. And we don't. If you're resisting change, guess what the universe is going to do? It'll bring change to you from all different directions. Every day. For sure. Even if it's a minute thing of, you know what? I didn't do much today, so I'm going to rewear these clothes so I don't have as much laundry.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03You will absolutely spill that bowl of chili in your lap.
SPEAKER_00But why do people not change?
SPEAKER_03Will happen. Change, it's not that they don't change. It's that they are not recognizing that they do change.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03The other part of that mechanism, which is still a little bit of a rabbit hole for people, is that the way reality is set up is that every second of every single day when you make a new decision to do anything, be it move your arm, get out of bed, walk across the room, that's a that's a whole nother version of you doing that thing.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_03And so you are no longer the person that you were standing on the other side of the room.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03You've changed. Correct. There isn't there's not a such a thing as I I'm not changing. That does not exist.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_03The universe doesn't allow that. In order for you to be part of the all that is, change must be present.
SPEAKER_00Must be present, right?
SPEAKER_03Even people who are restricting and refusing to come to the awareness that they change every millisecond of every day just by positioning themselves differently in the chair that they're sitting in in the same job they've been in for 55 years.
SPEAKER_0055 years.
SPEAKER_03That same change of changing your position actually changes you to another screen in your reality.
SPEAKER_00Yep.
SPEAKER_03So change is inevitable. So you might as well embrace it.
SPEAKER_00Yep, I agree.
SPEAKER_03And if you are needing, based on your higher self, if you're needing true deep change because you have a desire sitting over here queued up, waiting to become your new reality because you've asked for it 50 million times. Yeah, it will it will force you to change, but it will sometimes do it in small covert ways to where it makes it easier for you on the journey, depending on where you're at in your belief systems. Yeah, whether it's an easy journey or a hard journey, change will happen. Change does happen every day, every millisecond, change happens. Right. So for you to wiggle your words around and do word wizardry and make yourself believe that you're not changing or that you're not committed to allowing change is basically uh a liar telling yourself.
SPEAKER_00So the the mindset is impossible not to change. Right, we change constantly, and that's where the conversation that inside of me went is what why would we have a mindset against change as a human when we constantly change anyway? Like be it and I'm I'm not talking about changing jobs. I'm not talking about changing from one boyfriend to the next or one girlfriend to the next. I'm talking about change real change within us. And that real change can be controlled very easily by your mindset or your subconscious mind. And when you don't I mean of your conscious mind, when you don't allow the subconscious mind to change with your conscious mind, then you're putting yourself in a mindset of inhibiting the change that you're sub or that you're through evolution as a human are you going to experience? You're going to experience it one way or another. So why do people put themselves in a mindset to stifle change?
SPEAKER_03Is that a rhetorical question, or are you wanting me to conversate on it?
SPEAKER_00That's where that was a question to you.
SPEAKER_03Oh, so the the microphone's been handed over and the doors open.
SPEAKER_00That was a Dr. Ginny question.
SPEAKER_03Very well. Let's pike our carrot sandwiches. Okay. Here we go, folks. Dun dun dun dun dun dun dun.
Why We Resist Change
SPEAKER_00Oh, wait a minute. Let's see. Dr. Ginny's finally joining the show.
SPEAKER_03That was my rendition of the bonanza intro music.
SPEAKER_00Oh my gosh, you just told your age.
SPEAKER_03I love watching bonanza.
SPEAKER_00Yes, she does. When she's sick, that's what she does. She watches bonanzas and ladies.
SPEAKER_03And so So why are people afraid of the perception of change?
SPEAKER_00That's not the that's not the question.
SPEAKER_03Oh.
SPEAKER_00The question is why do we humanly, consciously stifle change through our subconscious mind? Why do we do that? That's the question. That's where I was going with that question.
SPEAKER_03Well, I ignored your question because what you're the question you're asking is impossible to do.
SPEAKER_00Share more. Now we're getting to where I wanted to go.
SPEAKER_03You cannot stifle change. Change will happen, period. With or without you, change will happen. You are going to change one way or another. And you can do it in a restrictive way, which then makes it feel hard and challenging. Or you can do it in an easy, graceful way, which feels easier and more graceful.
SPEAKER_00Yes.
SPEAKER_03When you're resisting change, that's when the heavy energy, the heavy frequency comes in and it feels like it's hard, and your inner self clamps down and holds onto the door frame when you're trying to walk through the next door, holding on tight, not wanting to go through that doorway. But what people would benefit from is coming to the realization that you can't stop change.
SPEAKER_00Right.
SPEAKER_03Period.
SPEAKER_00Nice.
SPEAKER_03You can't stop it. It's coming.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03One way or another.
SPEAKER_00You can change your mindset on change. I would say.
SPEAKER_03But that still is a form of change.
SPEAKER_00I agree. I agree. You're so there's no way to stop change. That's exactly the rabbit hole, the yo-yo that's my mind's been going through since that comment on Wednesday. Okay. Is you really can't stop change. Change is gonna happen. No. You know, and but we as humans have a tendency to change our mindset as humans to uh out of most of the time, like you started to say a minute ago, out of fear of change. And so we become negative, uh mindset, is that a word? Against change.
SPEAKER_03It is now.
SPEAKER_00It is now, it goes in our spiritual grind dictionary. Perhaps we should create a spiritual grind dictionary.
SPEAKER_03Combined it.
SPEAKER_00Combined it and what combined it or combined her. You know what's funny? We had somebody tell us yesterday that all of our podcasts we were talking about all the time. Shh.
SPEAKER_03Don't do it, girl. Don't say it. Don't say it. Don't say it.
SPEAKER_00But we're not talking about you. We're talking about me, actually.
SPEAKER_03Oh and so the the the part of She who shall not be named.
SPEAKER_00And so the We love you, girl. Yeah. And not every podcast is about you, I promise.
SPEAKER_03The uh Yes, it is, Queen. The whole world revolves around you and it's all about you.
SPEAKER_00And so if uh if we have a negative mindset about it, again about change and our conscious outwardly perception of our reality, you know, like for example, uh, fear of changing jobs.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00That's one of the biggest ones in the world. Um and why? So what what I have to teach myself or talk through in myself is this wouldn't be in my reality if it wasn't supposed to be there. Right. So why do I have a negative mindset against it?
SPEAKER_03Well, most of the time the negative mindset comes from the fear-based template of the unknown, the uncertainty. As humans, our pre uh programmedisposition, predisposition, operating system likes to be in the know.
SPEAKER_00Correct.
SPEAKER_03It likes to prepare. It's back in the caveman years, you look ahead a little bit and you prepare for the worst-case scenario. Winter's coming. Let's beef up, let's get more uh kills in. It stems way, way back to preparing for a future event that might cause end of life or catastrophic event. That's how it's structured.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03But it's not necessary to live that way anymore because abundance has shown itself to us. There's food in the grocery stores, there's food on the table, there's I mean, I mean, abundance is all around if you look at it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
Fear Of The Unknown Wiring
SPEAKER_03We don't live in caves anymore, not knowing what fire is and having to make sure we kill enough of the mammoths or buffaloes to get us through the winter months, stockpiling. We don't have to live that way anymore. Right. So by design, the human template came with an operating system coded deep within the DNA to always follow the number one law, which is to keep this human alive. Yeah. Whatever it takes. Yep. And anything that is unknown that doesn't have a predetermined set of sequences in place, a code in place, if you will, that has problem solution, problem solution, it's an unknown variable, and that makes humans very uncomfortable because they can't plan for a future problem. Right. When you can toggle your perspective around to instead of planning for a future problem with all this uh, you know, file folder full of solutions to living in the now moment because things are abundant. Look around. You know, it it there's stuff everywhere.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_03You toggle to living right here in the now and stop planning for a catastrophic future event, then it will change your whole reality.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_03And and so change then will become a more of a fun uh exploratory perspective rather than a fearful unknown. Yeah. So it's just a matter of changing the perspective or the glasses, the lens that you're looking at it through.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_03Getting to a place where you go in and you do some self-discovery on why are you afraid of the unknown. Somewhere in your life did the unknown harm you or do something to you that was highly, highly uncomfortable, and that's why you adopted that perspective. Because if then you are, then you are intertwining event and situational identities, and you're copy and pasting them onto new events and identity, onto new circumstances. Yeah, and that's not uh the healthiest way to go about it. If you live a life of copy and paste where, okay, I did this thing, it turned out shitty, it felt like crap, anything that resembles that copy, paste that file. So then I'm not letting myself even try the new thing because I don't want to experience that same garbage again, because I am afraid of the unknown, and I've told myself a monkey mind story lie based on the previous event that I have experienced, it was highly uncomfortable rather than looking at the previous event and saying, okay, yes, it was uncomfortable, but what did I learn from it that was necessary for me to learn to be able to move forward and do this thing more effectively, more efficiently, more educated, like it served a purpose somewhat, some way. It didn't, it didn't just happen to make you miserable.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_03It you brought it into your reality and and into your playwright for a purpose of teaching you something. Yeah. And so when you turn the copy and paste off and you let the new event or the new adventure have a clean palette to manifest from and giving it a chance to actually become what it's supposed to, right, then change it becomes softer to munch on. Right. Softer to explore, softer to experience.
SPEAKER_00I totally resonate with what you're talking about, so that's why I'm like in this dumbfounded area of thought.
SPEAKER_03I just didn't want to commandeer the entire stage and give you a chance if you were wanting to conversate about it at all.
SPEAKER_00No, I I would allow you to continue on because I'm listening.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00For sure. Sometimes these podcasts are about me.
SPEAKER_03Sometimes they're about me. I get in the hot seat as well. That's what the whole podcast that we do is is about. We're wanting to teach individuals that we're not just spiritual gurus that levitate above our chair and the easy speak for your pose, and nothing bad as society calls it ever happens to us. We have challenges all along the way, but we've got our routine and our regimen that we use to work through those. Our shit stinks just like everybody else's. Yeah, and that's what we try to teach.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Um, so yeah, now back to change.
SPEAKER_01Yep.
SPEAKER_03It it's inevitable, guys. You you are changing whether you want to or not. When you resist change, that's when the funkiness begins to happen. Because it's gonna it it change is constantly happening.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_03You cannot stop it, avoid it. Yeah, no matter what. The only thing you can do is try and work on the perspective by which you view it. Yes. And that will be what brings you peace of mind and ease and grace around the word change.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_03Because it's happening right under your nose, whether you're gonna consciously be aware of it or whether you're gonna pretend to stuff it away and not look at it.
SPEAKER_00Right. So m my question would be at that point is is when you accept change, yeah. As it's gonna happen no matter what you do, how do you keep a positive mindset on it?
SPEAKER_03Well, I mean, there's different techniques that work for everybody. One of the technique that I use is if I know that change is coming and I feel the vibration of it becoming a little bit uncomfortable, and I'll give you my human experience. You know, we are getting ready to travel. And this will be the first time that we travel again since your stroke.
SPEAKER_00It's my event, yep.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. So what I find in my body is I am resisting a little bit of that travel because of fear. I am like, oh my gosh, we're gonna be away from his pharmacy, we're gonna be away from his doctors. What if something happens and we're out all over the country on the other side of the world? What does that look like? We got to get used to new doctors. Nobody knows his story there. Like this whole monkey mind story of what if, playing the what if dumbass game. Yeah. And so what I do, like I teach people to do, is when your monkey mind takes and runs rampant with that shit, I sit down and I pinpoint in that story the problems that my monkey mind has given me in my journal. And I come up with the solutions.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
Stop Copying Old Pain Forward
SPEAKER_03And the minute that I start coming up with the solutions and telling myself, okay, here's one solution to that problem, here's two, here's three. We are still okay, we are safe. And in doing that journaling process, I remind myself that this is just a what if story. None of this has happened, none of this is set in stone to happen. So you're you're basically making up a pretend story, but here, here's your dumb ass solutions if you need them, so you'll shut the fuck up. And that will usually cause my monkey mind to shut up about it. Then I can toggle into changing my frequency by using some of my frequency interruptors uh that are in my tool bag, like uh, you know, mentally taking myself somewhere fun.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03That immediately will take my frequency.
SPEAKER_00Do the world the best in the world at that.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. I can I can daydream all day long about, you know, playing with fairies or being a character in a Disney movie or whatever, that will immediately take my frequency from, you know, a lower frequency right back up to where I belong. Right. And as soon as I do that, then that monkey mind shuts up and that thought process fades away to the point where I can't even really remember it. Right. So the tricks of the trade are always becoming aware that you're doing it. Don't let the monkey mind just get on that horse and gallop away into the sunset with all these what if dumbass stories. Interrupt that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Interrupt that mechanism.
SPEAKER_00I spanked my monkey. By so I'd throw that in there.
SPEAKER_03Where's the cricket button? We literally have a podcast about that. You remember doing that?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, do you spank your monkey?
SPEAKER_03Yeah. I am a little more loving to my monkey, and uh I don't my monkey gets crazy, so I gotta sometimes just get the belt out on her.
SPEAKER_00I mean. Send her off to her corner.
SPEAKER_03Oh, it's a female monkey.
SPEAKER_00Well, interesting. It's the first time I've ever identified it, actually.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that's the first time you've ever given it a gender.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, what I do is just really what I really do is threaten the belt and take the bananas. It's just but it it acts right, so I see.
SPEAKER_03Whatever it takes, man.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Whatever it takes to get some act right. Get some act right.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03So, you know, in your little in your little toolkit, yeah, I teach all the time. First number step uh step one, always, always, always, is awareness. Yeah. Awareness to everything. Wick because if it's running in the background in the subconscious and you're not aware of it, you can't really do anything about it. Right. Right? So bringing it to the awareness, whether it be a belief, whether it be a habit, whether it be whatever, start listening to how you're programming yourself with your own spell work by your words and your language.
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_03We're all internal witches and warlocks because we are saying spells to ourselves all the time.
SPEAKER_00All the time. People do it all the time.
SPEAKER_03And I'm gonna tell you, you know, as a hypnotherapist or a hypnosis individual, whatever state I'm in that I have to refer to myself as there's one thing certified hypnotist, is who you are, by the way. Thank you. There's one thing that is more powerful than my hypnosis sessions, and that is self-hypnosis.
SPEAKER_00Yep. What was that?
SPEAKER_03Self-hypnosis.
SPEAKER_00Super caliphus.
SPEAKER_03That is exactly what went through my head is that song. Super caliphistic. If you say it loud enough, you'll surely sound a bit. Hypnosis.
SPEAKER_00Certified hypnosis. Now you got me saying certified hypnosis hypnotist. Good lord. Certified hypnotist. Good Lord Almighty. What are you doing to me?
SPEAKER_03There's only one thing that's more powerful than anything I can do for somebody, and that's what they can do for themselves. And you program yourself and you hypnotize yourself on a regular basis, whether you realize it or not.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. With your words.
SPEAKER_03And the words that come out of your own mouth, whether you're speaking to yourself in the mirror, whether you're speaking to another individual, those are still words that your own ears are hearing you say. Body as your personal universe that you're the God over is hearing you say that is feeling the frequency of whatever it is you're talking about.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_03And so you are programming yourself on a regular basis with your own words and your own vibration and your own frequency. You have an entire universe that lives underneath the skin, all the way down to molecules and atoms. And they each have their own level of conscience and essence. And you are responsible for programming that whole entity we call the human body, the energy body, the mind body. That's your responsibility. So it looks to me like now might be a good time to start watching what you say to yourself.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you know, and that it's kind of a funny way of looking at things. And I what popped in my head when you were talking about that is we already identified earlier that everybody talks about energy, they don't realize they have they have the energy. But if you've ever been an athlete, an organized athlete in any way, shape, or form in a high school, collegiate, any kind of sport like that, you don't realize that you are hypnotizing yourself. And when you hypnotize yourself, you or what I mean by that is like your coaches.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00You know, like uh how many of you went into your weight rooms when you were in any kind of organized athletic place? How many negative posters did you see on the wall? Nope. No. There was I there's one that was on the wall in our weight room in our high school that said be the change.
SPEAKER_03Yep. And why do you think that you make a music mix when you're gonna go do your weightlifting routine or your workout routine? Because it makes you feel because it carries a kind of energy that lets you stay in a positive energy point when you're putting your physical body through this grueling workout. It gives you that energy to keep carrying on doing those dumbass bee features that make you want to vomit. Yeah, well or make you do vomit.
Journaling Solutions To Quiet The Mind
SPEAKER_00Well, we do it when we drive to work. We do all sorts of things. Absolutely. Or habitual habitual, habitual.
SPEAKER_03That sounds like a an entree. It's a habitual restaurant. Let's go to the habitual restaurant.
SPEAKER_00It's a habitual thing that you do. Like you get up and you get in the morning. You we are programming our minds.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And so to change your minds, you have to change your programming.
SPEAKER_03There's that change word again.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. And and so when you drive to work in the morning, you you probably like I used to do every single day, I put it on the same radio station, listen to the same thing on my way to work every single day.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And one day I changed it. You know why? Because Kid Craddock in the morning. Anyway, I used to watch Kid Craddock in the morning in Texas all the time.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And I had to change because he he actually had a sudden accident and passed away.
SPEAKER_03Right. He went celestial.
SPEAKER_00He went celestial.
SPEAKER_03And the energy of the station changed.
SPEAKER_00Changed. And so I had to change stations. And what I learned was I started putting it on podcasts.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And and I so I would listen to a podcast every day. And then I would I got to where I broke the habit of being in that same ritual event, which which had opened my mind. I don't know why I witched twice there, but I witch and witch, which it witch, I changed my mind and uh it created in my bubble a different energy of change.
SPEAKER_03Absolutely.
SPEAKER_00And it kind of opened the door it's subconsciously. I didn't recognize it at the time it was happening. Um but I consciously knew I was changing to from the radio station to the podcast. Yeah. That was a conscious decision.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_00Because the energy of the station changed. And and so the conscious decision that I made is the mindset that we're talking about, is you have to allow yourself to change your own rituals.
SPEAKER_02Yep.
SPEAKER_00To change your own thing. Allow the mindset to change. You don't necessarily have to change the whole world at once.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_00But allow yourself to, when you get up in the morning, change it change one thing.
SPEAKER_03It's actually not any of our jobs to change the world.
SPEAKER_00Right. That's right.
SPEAKER_03It's our job to change how we perceive the world. That's right. And work and work on ourselves.
SPEAKER_00Yep.
SPEAKER_03Or mm mm use our human meat suit to navigate experiences.
SPEAKER_00You know, about twelve or fourteen years ago now, I made it I woke up in the morning one day and I made a promise to myself.
SPEAKER_03To eat peanut butter and jelly sandwich every night for supper.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, how'd you know?
SPEAKER_03But rock on because you are nailing that one.
SPEAKER_00I'm nailing that one. I am. Yep. Well. But I made a promise to myself to uh to become a better person every day.
SPEAKER_03I'm gonna buy stock in peanut butter.
SPEAKER_00You should, because we own a bunch of it. Um of peanut butter, that is. And I I made the commitment to myself to to become a better person every single day.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_00And the only person that can measure what you change is yourself.
SPEAKER_03That's right.
SPEAKER_00Um, and so becoming a different person, you can allow and you can allow yourself to fall back into ritualistic things. And what you do when you give yourself that mindset is it changes the perception of your reality at that time, which is a change in itself.
SPEAKER_03I would just uh recommend one thing when you're putting the mindset out there of my goal and my intention is to become a better person every single day. Don't get tripped up in judging yourself.
SPEAKER_00That's right.
SPEAKER_03Don't judge what you did yesterday as bad or wrong or not right by saying, Okay, well, that was wrong. I'm gonna do better tomorrow.
SPEAKER_01Yep.
SPEAKER_03Um just improve. I have the goal and the intention to uh grow every day or transform every day, or uh some people can use the word better without tangling it up in the okay, I fucked shit up yesterday, so I'm gonna do better tomorrow. Some people can do that without going there. So just make sure the mindset too feel your way around using those words.
SPEAKER_00Oh, I agree totally. You know, the I think the whole thing about it is is is when I also um the other day, actually, when I made this commitment to my ch myself to become a better person every day, I had to define myself what that meant.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And and make sure that I worked towards it, whether people liked it or not. I because it this this change was about me. It wasn't about anybody else.
SPEAKER_03The whole journey is about you.
SPEAKER_00And but as in our world, we have a tendency within our own bubbles with uh around other people to gauge our vision of ourself or our own perception of ourself based on what other people say and do to us.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And you can't do that when you go through change. You have to allow yourself to change the definitions and the perceptions that you have consciously.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, one of the biggest, biggest things that I will always take with me, uh, that I actually learned in my doctorate program, Dr. Kelly said, uh, who was one of my instructors and the founder of the uh uh university that I went to, uh, he coined it as them, T-H-E-M esteem.
SPEAKER_00Them esteem, yeah.
Self Hypnosis Through Words And Rituals
SPEAKER_03And that is where you are so focused on trying to live your life based on what the they and the them outside of you thinks and and expects that you forget to allow yourself the room to be who or what you naturally want to be because you're so busy trying to be what somebody else thinks you should be.
SPEAKER_00That's right. Or instead of who you define yourself as.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_00That's one hundred percent correct. But the the process of the change is understanding that as well. And I I think that's why this podcast was beneficial for me because it it it just kind of reiterated what I already knew. But it's always good to kind of hear it every now and then because it helps you realize that making one significant decision to a day is is not something that you make a promise to anybody else. Yeah. You make a promise to yourself.
SPEAKER_03Wanna do something fun and take it to the rabbit hole in one other version right quick? It will take it just a second. Sure. If you're not careful, change has a different definition. Uh oh. Change is actually coinage in your pocket. Oh, so you know, so if you're resisting change, and you get that tangled up and twisted too far, you can actually experience a tangled up little experience with your finances if you're not embracing change, because there are a couple of different definitions out in the world around that word.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah, definitely. And so you're gonna make sure it's defined properly as well.
SPEAKER_03And which one you're talking about because not only otherwise, if you're resisting change, then you're not gonna have the coinage come to you and all money is big money.
SPEAKER_00All money is big money.
SPEAKER_03And change turns into dollars. Yeah. And so if you're limiting the flow of change and the universe is being a little funny, and you're limiting the flow, then you'll see less and less change that changes less into dollars, and you'll see uh money flow and abundance problems slow down or stifle a little bit if you're not careful.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Rabbit hole. You you can't stop change as as a rule, but what you can do is redefine what change is and your perception of it.
SPEAKER_03So I'll can I use you as an example for a second? Oh.
SPEAKER_00Well, maybe I say something smart.
SPEAKER_03No, just to bring my point across.
SPEAKER_00Darn it.
SPEAKER_03If you have an area of your life pie where you're not uh completely clear about change, or you're not allowing change, one of the things I notice that you're doing, and I don't know where you are with your change. It obviously came up as a topic for some reason. You're working on whatever. Yeah, after my event. What I notice you do at the restaurant is you do our payout receipts. When you tip, you want it to be a whole dollar. You want it to land on mathematically ending up with tip and all a whole dollar bill. You don't want that to have any change. Like you're not comfortable saying, I'm gonna give this person like the bill is$38 and 29 cents.
SPEAKER_00I'll make it. I'll make it fifty.
SPEAKER_03You right. You will you'll say you'll make the math make it to be where you pay fifty dollars and they get the change. So you're basically giving your change away.
SPEAKER_01Huh.
SPEAKER_03Instead of just saying, you know what, I'm gonna give them a$20 bill because I'm okay with the bill being fifty dollars and thirty-eight cents, so the change comes my way. You see what I'm saying? About how you're not accepting change in any definition.
SPEAKER_00Well, that's kind of a cool thing, actually.
SPEAKER_03It's a rabbit hole place. Well, what a what an epiphanal thought. You gotta be careful with that.
SPEAKER_00Sometimes your intelligence impresses me.
SPEAKER_03I know. Can a girl get a uh a yahoo? So you gotta be careful.
SPEAKER_00Because that is kinda that's kinda cool, because what an inspirational way of looking at change. Yeah. Because, you know, if you tip, like you said, if your bill is thirty-eight dollars and forty-nine cents and you take away the change and making it an even dull amount, you're putting a sublim a subliminal sub a subconscious memory or a uh a thought to yourself out there and that person.
Them Esteem And Keep The Change
SPEAKER_03To reinforce the belief that you don't accept change.
SPEAKER_00Right. But in but in doing that though, aren't you giving them the change?
SPEAKER_03If they accept it, depending on where their belief system is, but why would you want to give your change away?
SPEAKER_00That's a good point. Accept the change.
SPEAKER_03You're trying to give the change away like it's not gonna happen or doesn't exist.
SPEAKER_00That's a phrase for a cup. Accept the change.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. In any form that it comes in.
SPEAKER_00Yep. Keep the change. I like that one too.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_00I used to say the whole time, keep the change. And I'm giving away my change.
SPEAKER_03Keep the change.
SPEAKER_00You gotta look at it differently. Wow, what a epiphany moment. What a great podcast this was. Yeah. For me. Whether y'all like it or not, I liked it. So guess what? It's getting posted. So anyway. Well, uh hey, yeah, well, that's are you good?
SPEAKER_03I'm always good.
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SPEAKER_03Yep.
SPEAKER_00And uh they are a nonprofit organization out of Arkansas that we have been supporting them for Is it dot com? Yes. Okay. And I I verified that because when they got their website, it was before the orgs and stuff came out because they are a nonprofit organization, just so y'all know.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00But uh I verified that.
SPEAKER_03It is when you said dot org, you the song that popped in my head was the you know remember the Jetsons? Where Judy's meets. Right, where Judy writes the song so she can win the contest. Oop op org aha. You remember that episode? I do remember that episode. You guys who don't know what I'm talking about, look it up. Oop op org aha. That's the name of the song.
SPEAKER_00That's funny. I do remember that because she was oop op org.
SPEAKER_03And the whole house was doing it.
SPEAKER_00I remember.
SPEAKER_03And she ends up winning the contest.
Events And Closing Reminders
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