Mirror Work That Actually Builds Confidence (Not Ego)

A single photo can shake your identity. In this episode, we explore how aging triggers self-doubt, why imposter syndrome hides inside everyday moments, and how mirror work can rebuild confidence from the inside out. We break down the psychology of self-image, nervous system rewiring, and why confidence is often mislabeled as ego. You’ll learn how mental “file folders” are formed by culture, school, and work—and how to update them with embodied evidence instead of external validation.

We also share updates on Binary Babes limited-drop apparel, our shop migration to merccenters.org, momentum from Jindan Yoga meridian sessions, and why identity is a habit you train—not a label you inherit. Try the mirror practice tonight, accept one compliment without deflecting, and notice how differently you carry yourself.

Follow for grounded conversations on identity, confidence, nervous system regulation, and building a life aligned with who you actually are.

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Transcript

Banter, Hygiene Jokes, And Warm-Up

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Good morning, everybody. Welcome back to the spiritual grind.

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Good morning.

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It's James here checking in today.

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It's the James and Jenny show.

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I got told yesterday I speak too fast.

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Oh, I thought you said I stink.

SPEAKER_00 1:02

Well, I I got told that too. But I'm out of cologne, so sorry. And I was outside in the sun for a couple of hours.

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Did you bathe?

SPEAKER_00 1:11

I did bathe, yeah. I bathed yesterday.

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Not to call you out on public radio, but this is not public radio. Did you wash your butt and your balls?

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I know. When I don't, my ball sweatiness. I don't know. You know, the only the guys out there will relate with this, but when you get sweaty balls, they stink.

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It's kind of like dirty feet in a sweaty shoe.

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Man, they especially I would assume. Especially when they got a little hair on them, it is it gets even worse.

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I don't go around smelling your balls, but I would assume it would be like sweaty shoes in.

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It's hard, it's a hard thing to explain, the smell of it.

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Uh-huh.

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Hard thing to describe.

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I see. Interesting.

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Anyway. Good morning.

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Well, I guess you could buy that loomy product, which is supposed to get rid of smells and all your cracks and crevices.

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I know I've seen that she has a man's version though.

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Yeah, she does.

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That's crazy.

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I found it worked for a little while. I did try the product.

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Yeah.

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And it seemed like it worked for a little while, but then it didn't. But I mean, there it could have been all the different things going on. Because I know one thing I can speak to is when you're detoxing heavy things, your smell changes, especially when you're in full detox mode.

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It's like my Italian buddy that I used to have.

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He smelled like garlic and basil.

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I was like, bro, I don't know what what ode garlic you're wearing, but good lord, capiche.

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Maybe he was a vampire and eating garlic so he wouldn't be able to be taken out by the garlic.

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Yeah, I don't know, man, but he would he gile he reeked of it. Anyway, so a new fun thing.

New Binary Babes Apparel & Contest

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Uh-huh.

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The binary babes.

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Oh yeah.

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Yeah. So we're gonna we have uh created a t-shirt line that's gonna be single drop t-shirts. And every t-shirt we drop is gonna have a limited edition. And we're gonna have you'll get your shirt, like when you buy one, you get your shirt. And then you'll be put into the uh website because you have to go log in and create a profile. And then we're gonna start with 500 people and we're gonna do a internet-based skilled competition.

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Okay.

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And the winner is gonna get a thousand dollars. Maybe two. We ain't decided yet.

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Well, all right then. You obviously didn't read my ten thousand-word layout of how this all goes.

SPEAKER_00 4:02

Oh, I didn't. You didn't you were just doing it and didn't give it to me yesterday.

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I uploaded it in the drive, sir, and part of your job description is to check the drive. Excuse me. Excuse me.

SPEAKER_00 4:12

Are you disciplining me on public tech radio?

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No, I'm just reminding you of your self-imposed uh promotion and the expectations of that promotion, sir.

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But anyway, cool. I'm excited. Yeah, it's gonna be fun.

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Uh they're very fun to make.

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They are. It's gonna have its own website and everything. So once we get that all up and running, and we'll we will let everybody know.

SPEAKER_02 4:40

Yeah, binary has many different meanings. It does. This is not a binary code. I am not completely sure what I want my pronoun to be. This is from a standpoint of computer coding um standpoint. Yes, it's a humorous, sarcastic kind of genre of shirt.

SPEAKER_00 5:06

It's gonna be a high quality shirt.

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About computer coding and stuff like that for that uh collection of people.

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It's gonna be up for everybody to figure out the coding.

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Yeah. So uh no, don't give it away. No, I'm not. I'm just explaining the store and how the store works because what I do when I create content for the store with the different illustrations and things, I do it from a standpoint of trying to have something out there for everyone.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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All the different groups.

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A quick note. We are we have migrated the shop from Shopify into our website.

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So Right yeah.

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It's no longer on Shopify, it's actually on the Merccenters.org website.

SPEAKER_03 5:51

Right.

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And you go to the Merc Catalog Store, you'll see it in there. That's not where we sell catalogs.

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No.

Store Migration And Ops Updates

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Yeah, we have some 1984 Sears Robux catalogs for sale.

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That might be a thing.

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Anyway.

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Yep. So there's different uh themes in there to explore.

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And we had a great Jin Dan yoga, yes.

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Nine or ten.

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Yeah. Nine or ten.

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So I'm filling my store now with the different products.

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It's not published yet, so just so you guys know the store is temporarily down.

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Uh right, because I'm working on getting the store set up.

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Yeah, we're still working on getting all the migration done with all the printing companies and the fulfillment and putting the product in there. Putting the product in. The hardest part of it probably is putting getting any of the products in, but once they get there, they'll stay. So that's great. That's good.

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Yeah.

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And we had a great Jin Dan yoga video yesterday.

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We did.

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We had a an amazing Danielle's doing really good actually.

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Yoga class.

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I I think you and Danielle together are pretty dynamic doo in that.

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Yeah, yeah. It's been a real good um experience.

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It's been great to see Danielle really pick up and take on and own the meridian side of it.

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Right, yeah, I agree.

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I think it's uh it's pretty it's fun to watch, actually.

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Yeah, it is. Her ability to just kind of ebb and flow and flexibility very good to just jump in and roll with it is knock on wood, it's probably one of the best business partners we picked up in a while. Yeah.

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Because she's involved and that's what we want her to be.

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Right.

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So that's good. So uh shout out to you, Danielle.

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What's up, girl?

Jindan Yoga Wins And Team Shoutouts

SPEAKER_00 7:39

So uh well, you ready for today's topic? I am we're gonna piggyback off of imposter syndrome. We're gonna piggyback off the imposter syndrome.

SPEAKER_03 7:49

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 7:50

And you know what that is though? It's a little bit not the same, but is the same.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_00 7:55

So this morning I saw a picture of my dad on Facebook.

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Okay.

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And I guess he's cutting his hair the way I cut my hair. Which he never did that before. He used to always like combing straight back like I was.

SPEAKER_01 8:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:12

Um, but now he has pretty much went to a skin fade. And it made me feel really old because he's like eighty he's eighty-three now. Is he? No. He's older than that. He's yeah, he's eighty-two now. He's eighty-two. Or he will be this year in June.

SPEAKER_03 8:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:32

And he made me feel old.

SPEAKER_03 8:35

Really?

SPEAKER_00 8:36

Because I look too much like him like that. So I am going to change my hair.

SPEAKER_02 8:40

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 8:40

I'm going to grow with that.

SPEAKER_02 8:41

Are you going back to the Fabio blonde extensions look and man bun?

SPEAKER_00 8:46

Maybe. Actually, I think I'm going to go to that 1970s disco style look. The mullet with the feathered hair back, you know, that business in the back. No, no business in the back.

SPEAKER_02 8:58

You don't you don't want to permite?

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Oh.

SPEAKER_02 9:04

You don't want to try the don't comb it like I do?

SPEAKER_00 9:08

No, I'm going to retrofit it like I'm going to retrofit it into the early 80s, late 70s.

SPEAKER_02 9:13

Do we need to go to the wig shop and get you some wigs?

SPEAKER_00 9:17

But anyway, so it leads right into the uh topic of the day is our our legacy.

SPEAKER_02 9:24

I can honestly say I am floating in the same pair of shoes.

SPEAKER_00 9:28

Yeah, I know you have.

Legacy Triggered By A Photo Of Dad

SPEAKER_02 9:30

I uh had an interaction with my mother, and I'm like, oh my gosh, I look just like her in certain aspects, and I don't want to look like her. It does. It tends to make you feel like, oh my God, is this what I'm gonna look like when I get that?

SPEAKER_00 9:49

When I first looked at it, I thought it I thought it was a picture of me holding with my mom round about I was like, oh dang. And then I scrolled down and it was actually my dad with his stomach sticking out.

SPEAKER_02 10:02

So does that mean he looks younger, or does that mean you're getting older?

SPEAKER_00 10:08

I don't know what it means, actually. I just know I didn't like it.

SPEAKER_02 10:15

All right. Paper bag overhead mode activated.

SPEAKER_00 10:20

But it so it it brings in the topic of the of the how we view ourselves in our legacy.

SPEAKER_01 10:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:29

You know, absolutely because my dad was always that guy that, you know, like I remember when I was younger, like we would I would be in like high school and I'd walk down the street with my dad, and the girls would stop and flirt with him and not me.

SPEAKER_01 10:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:40

And he was just that guy. He's always been a good looking guy. Because like his military pictures, he looks like Elvis.

SPEAKER_01 10:45

Right.

SPEAKER_00 10:46

And with a little bigger nose and a crooked nose, because he got his nose broken. But kind of like mine. Mine's broken too. Now see, that's what made it even worse. Because we both have broken nose, curved nose.

SPEAKER_02 10:56

It's not that noticeable, honestly. I notice it on my Instagram videos, but but I think that's part of the conversation. How you see yourself in the mirror and how others see you are two different viewpoints.

SPEAKER_00 11:10

Well, here's the crazy part because it happens to me as well.

SPEAKER_02 11:14

Right.

SPEAKER_00 11:14

Yeah, yeah.

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You know, like you'll say, I don't see you that way, and I'm like, how can you not? Look in the fucking mirror. I see it, it's blaring me in the face. Like when I carry my luggage under my eyes because I've had some something I'm going.

SPEAKER_00 11:30

Those aren't Louis Vuitton bags.

SPEAKER_02 11:32

They are not fucking Louis Vuitton bags. Absolutely not.

SPEAKER_00 11:37

Oh, those are the things.

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And you're you wake up and you're like, okay, who the fuck packed this bag and where are we going?

SPEAKER_00 11:44

It's funny.

SPEAKER_02 11:45

Is it vacation time?

SPEAKER_00 11:47

So it brings into, you know, you brought up the mirror. And so, you know, in my book on chapter eight, I think it is, is I I wrote a chapter about the mirror moments in life.

SPEAKER_03 12:00

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 12:01

And how many people actually go into the mirror and look into their eyes in the mirror? Right. And look into your own soul.

SPEAKER_03 12:09

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 12:10

Um, and do you like what you see? Right. And do you like who you are?

SPEAKER_03 12:16

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 12:16

Do you connect with that person in the mirror?

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Right.

Mirror Moments: Seeing Self vs Being Seen

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And those are big moments in life.

SPEAKER_03 12:22

They absolutely are.

SPEAKER_00 12:23

When we were a kid, we never once stopped and looked at the looked into our eyes. I couldn't have told you back when I was a kid what my eyes looked like. Yeah. Because I was too busy primping my hair. Because I had long sexy hair. And I and it's the truth. You spend all that time, you're you're worried about going chasing girls like when you're a guy.

SPEAKER_02 12:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:43

I don't know what girls do, but other people are.

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Especially when you're a curly, blonde, blue-eyed fella.

SPEAKER_00 12:52

I was a pretty boy.

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Little pretty boy. I wasn't though.

SPEAKER_00 12:56

I got made fun of because I was a geeky looking kid with glasses. You were cheap clothes when I was younger. And so I guess.

SPEAKER_02 13:01

See, that's your perspective though.

SPEAKER_00 13:04

Yeah, but it is my perspective. And my percep my perception of my reality back then was different than what everybody else does, according to my conversation I had with my mother the other day.

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Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 13:15

My mom read my book and she was like, I got some questions. Like she didn't either she didn't remember what I put in the book or uh she didn't want to face what I put in the book.

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Or, you know, her perspective was just different. Yeah, and that's it. And that happened.

SPEAKER_00 13:29

We had a great conversation about it. I'm not being negative about it, but but those mirror moments in our life, you know, after that picture this morning, and I went the when I went to the shower this morning, I looked into my eyes. And I could actually feel myself. I could connect with myself.

SPEAKER_02 13:44

What did it feel like?

SPEAKER_00 13:45

Um a piece, like an inner piece type thing?

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It wasn't like yikes.

SPEAKER_00 13:52

No, but my human coming out said, Gang, you look old, bro. You look like your dad. He's 80. And so I made the conscious decision right then to let my hair grow out.

SPEAKER_02 14:03

So you think growing your hair out's gonna fix everything else?

SPEAKER_00 14:07

Are you saying there's other things wrong? Excuse me. What no wrong button? What? Did you just what?

SPEAKER_02 14:21

I'm just going based on the comments.

SPEAKER_00 14:23

What?

SPEAKER_02 14:26

I'm going based on the comments that you randomly and quietly make throughout the weeks.

SPEAKER_00 14:32

Uh-huh. Sure.

SPEAKER_02 14:34

You make little innuendos or little comments all along the way, just like I do. But so I was I was a-let it grow out long enough to go down to like your belly button where it shades your like I used to, no. Belly.

SPEAKER_00 14:48

What?

SPEAKER_02 14:49

You made what? You made a comment about your abdomen when I was saying I needed to go into the body shop. You said, can they get rid of this?

SPEAKER_00 15:04

Somebody call 911, please.

SPEAKER_02 15:05

You pointed to the city.

SPEAKER_00 15:06

Because I am getting abused over here. I'm to get totally abused.

SPEAKER_02 15:10

I'm not abusing you.

SPEAKER_00 15:11

Do you all hear the verbal abuse that I'm receiving right now?

SPEAKER_02 15:14

No, I was pointing out things that you said already first. You I we I have it recorded. I've got proof.

SPEAKER_00 15:24

But so going back to the topic now instead of you picking on me.

SPEAKER_03 15:28

Okay, all right.

SPEAKER_00 15:30

So those mirror moments that I could actually really connect with myself this morning.

SPEAKER_03 15:34

Right, right.

SPEAKER_00 15:35

And then it brings me back to that spot in my book where I talked about the mirror moment back then when I couldn't connect with myself and I didn't even believe who I was.

SPEAKER_02 15:42

Right. Did you find it hard to look at yourself in the mirror during those times? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:47

Yes.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:48

And and when you did look in the mirror, you hated what you seen. Ah, yeah, yeah. And and not because of my looks, it's because of the person I had become in that moment. Because you know, when you have that kind of financial stability in your life, you do some stupid stuff when you have everybody. Well, no, let me let me I'm talking about me. Let me let me finish my statement before you cut me off there. What I'm saying is that when you come from nothing and then you suddenly have an abundance of money, it changes you, and it did me dramatically. And I'm not saying it it it changed me negatively. Okay. And some people I mean, money changes people, but it can be good or it can be bad. It's not it's not about it allowing it to change you because it will. And that's okay. Uh you have to be able to accept the flow of energy money. But anyway.

SPEAKER_02 16:39

Well, I think the other part of that is not to label it good or bad.

Receiving Compliments And Self-Perception

SPEAKER_00 16:43

Right, no, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, that's where I was going with that.

SPEAKER_02 16:45

It does change you, but it changes you based on where at in your education. Are you in first grade and uh uh need to let go of some old patterns that you brought with you? Are you in, you know, PhD mode? And I mean there's reasons for the kind of experience you're having.

SPEAKER_00 17:12

Right. And that's the same way we do in our mirror moments. So because when you look in the mirror and you're expecting you have an expectation of what you're gonna look at. You know, because we never view ourselves. Well, I can't say we. I can never I've never view myself the way I think I am.

SPEAKER_02 17:33

Yeah, so my trick is I've printed off what I want to look like and I tape that to my mirror so that when I look in the mirror, I You just look at the picture instead of the mirror. I see the picture only.

SPEAKER_00 17:49

Oh, okay. Right. Okay. I guess that might work.

SPEAKER_02 17:52

I cut I cut holes in the eye area so I could see my own eyes.

SPEAKER_00 17:58

Like one of those standard things you take a picture in one of those picture opportunities. Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 18:02

And my hair protrudes out so that I can actually style my hair around, you know, the face and the body that I actually want.

SPEAKER_00 18:11

Oh, I see.

SPEAKER_02 18:12

It's uh uh vision board in a whole unique different way.

SPEAKER_00 18:16

Just to clarify, she does not have that on her mirror.

SPEAKER_02 18:18

No, but it's a very cool idea, and I might have to put that in place. Use a mirror for a vision board.

SPEAKER_00 18:28

That's a that's a book. Wow. Anyway, so those mirror moments.

SPEAKER_02 18:35

Who's gonna write it?

SPEAKER_00 18:36

I don't know who's gonna get there first. But uh so those mirror moments when we when we get in those places, and like I just said, I don't view myself as I I view myself differently than what I really actually look at in the mirror.

SPEAKER_02 18:53

Oh, do tell more?

SPEAKER_00 18:55

Like like I don't know, I view myself, I and I feel younger.

SPEAKER_02 19:01

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 19:02

Um I feel like I act younger.

SPEAKER_02 19:05

Uh-huh. I know that.

SPEAKER_00 19:08

What is this today? Did any does anybody call 911 yet? I keep getting all this abuse.

SPEAKER_02 19:13

I think I have a little bit of paprika in my coffee this morning.

SPEAKER_00 19:17

Apparently. I had a little pepper in your something.

SPEAKER_02 19:23

Okay, carry on.

SPEAKER_00 19:25

My wayward son. Anyway. And now I lost my train of thought. No. So like you I I look at myself in a way that like it like as a as in a in a presence. I know I'm good at things.

SPEAKER_03 19:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:40

Um and I know and I but I don't know how people view me.

SPEAKER_02 19:46

You mean physically or in action or just the whole big picture?

SPEAKER_00 19:52

Well, here's a good example of you yesterday. I know you did your thing yesterday after the Jindan Yoga, and you're just very you're doing your healing and your energy work and your education with everybody afterwards, and and your energy gets so big. But I know you don't view yourself like like that. Like Danielle and I yesterday were having a conversation about how powerful you are when you're in that moment. And but you don't view yourself that way.

SPEAKER_02 20:17

No, as a matter of fact, when I walked up and y'all started conversating with me, she was trying to give me a compliment and it went right over my head.

SPEAKER_00 20:26

Yeah, just right exactly.

What The Mirror Reveals About Self-Worth

SPEAKER_02 20:29

She was like, You're you're so amazing and all the information and everything. And I was like, Yeah, but anybody can teach themselves to do what I did. I literally taught myself how to do all of this, it's not a gift. She was like, I know that, I know that. I'm just trying to give you a compliment.

SPEAKER_00 20:47

I think the knowledge is not a gift, I think the spiritual awakeness is.

SPEAKER_02 20:50

I was like, Oh, sorry.

SPEAKER_00 20:52

Yeah, no, right. Totally, totally whiffed the I did compliment. It was a complete whiff.

SPEAKER_02 20:57

I did.

SPEAKER_00 20:58

Like she even walked away saying, You can't take a compliment or what?

SPEAKER_02 21:02

I was like, No, I can. Thank you. Thank you very much for the compliment.

SPEAKER_00 21:07

But so, you know, that kind of parallels what I'm talking about is yeah, you know, I don't know how people really view me. I view how I I know how I think people view me. I know how people in the past may have viewed me back then because you know, that's the last thing that you leave when the the last time you've seen that person is the last time they're going to what expect you to be like when you meet them again.

SPEAKER_01 21:28

That's right.

SPEAKER_00 21:29

And so when you see them again or whatever, anything, you know, like like we're going to meet, we're going to do uh talk at uh ORI this this and in the first week of April, and I got three or four messages yesterday from some of the old people on Facebook that we used to hang out with over there.

SPEAKER_01 21:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:49

Like Robert and Bonnie and Melissa and all of them. Oh, we can't wait to see you and yada yada yada. And and I'm thinking to myself, are we the even the same person? You know, but because I don't I know they view us as very much higher level than they are.

SPEAKER_01 22:04

How do you know that?

SPEAKER_00 22:05

Oh, they they have all said it. Like Robert even said, I can't wait to s to see you all's energy again and and how what you all bring into the room.

SPEAKER_01 22:12

Oh.

SPEAKER_00 22:13

You know, and uh like y'all change the room when you come in.

SPEAKER_01 22:16

Oh, I see.

SPEAKER_00 22:17

He said ORI hasn't changed since you all quit coming.

SPEAKER_01 22:21

Oh, I see.

SPEAKER_00 22:22

Or hasn't been the same is what he said. Uh and when when we look at ourselves in the mirror, and if you can connect with yourself, what are you connecting with? Because that's what I felt connected. I felt grounded. I felt understood.

SPEAKER_02 22:37

When you looked in the mirror today?

SPEAKER_00 22:38

Yes, I did feel old because of the resemblance that I have.

SPEAKER_02 22:43

Visually you felt old.

SPEAKER_00 22:45

Yes, resemblance wise. Internally I feel 25 still.

SPEAKER_01 22:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:49

You know, um other than I'm I'm still not quite as energetic as I was. I can identify that. Yeah. I own it. I'm okay with that. I didn't really need to be bouncing off the walls for a hundred a hundred hours a day. Right. Like I used to. I don't really need to do that anymore. But I didn't know how to find my identity within that connection.

SPEAKER_02 23:10

You did not know how to find your identity in that connection in the mirror this morning.

SPEAKER_00 23:17

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 23:17

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 23:19

And so I fall back on what do you what and so it made me ask myself, it made me ask, you know, internally, what do people think about themselves when they do deeply look into the mirror at themselves? And what are we supposed to feel in that moment? What are we what are we supposed to act or perceive? Because you know, the m they say the mirror is a portal into your into into the next dimension.

SPEAKER_02 23:47

Into the depths of your soul.

SPEAKER_00 23:49

I mean, obviously we have a portal in our bathroom because our cat sits in there and stares in the mirror all the time.

SPEAKER_02 23:54

Yes, I know it. It is the craziest thing, y'all. I need to record it, but every time uh she's doing it and I go in with the camera, she stops doing it. She actually stands up on the mirror and looks at me like I'm interrupting her. Yeah. So we have in our motor coach, let me give this little quick side story because it is the it is the most intriguing and strangest thing that goes on. We have a full bathroom in the back.

SPEAKER_00 24:21

And both the cats fight over going in there, by the way.

SPEAKER_02 24:23

Yes. And then we have a half bath, which is like a potty in a sink, in the front bathroom, kind of like a guest bath.

SPEAKER_00 24:31

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 24:32

She likes this is the crazy cat who's got all the neurological things and the you know, disability stuff. Hey, can we get disability for our cat?

SPEAKER_00 24:48

Probably not. Okay, don't. They do have pet interns now, though.

SPEAKER_02 24:52

So she goes into that bathroom and she'll get up on the counter and she'll sit there and meow, talk to herself in the mirror.

Labels, Ego, Confidence, And Judgment

SPEAKER_00 25:02

She'll get up. I've walked she's actually leaning up against the mirror, standing up on her hind feet with both of her paws on the front mirror, talking into the mirror.

SPEAKER_02 25:09

Yes. And and I have evidence of that because I will go in and clean the mirror or do house cleaning like we did the other day. And the very next day, there's paw prints up on the mirror at a level that she can't do unless she's up on her back legs, on her hind legs, standing up, touching the mirror with her other paws. It's too tall.

SPEAKER_00 25:36

Right.

SPEAKER_02 25:37

And she sits in there and she'll meow. And sometimes it's like a high-pitched meow. It's different levels and different Yeah, it's almost like she's communicating with somebody. Yeah, it is the most intriguing thing. But then when I open the door to try and video it, she looks at me with that look of, do you mind? I'm in the bathroom. It's a communication.

SPEAKER_00 26:03

Can you close the door and leave, please?

SPEAKER_02 26:04

Right. Excuse me.

SPEAKER_00 26:07

But it's kind of funny that we're uh we're in the mirror conversation with this. And what what does she see when she looks in the mirror?

SPEAKER_01 26:13

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 26:14

And what and so I ask everybody, all the listeners, what do they see when they look in the mirror?

SPEAKER_01 26:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:18

And are they being what they see?

SPEAKER_01 26:20

Right.

SPEAKER_00 26:21

Because becoming those mirror moments in life, like in the book, I talk about is those mirror moments when you look at yourself and don't recognize or not comfortable with that person that you see, it's time to do something about it. Because when you're not connected to yourself, yeah, you can't connect to anybody else.

SPEAKER_01 26:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:38

And you can't connect to anything else because it's kind of like being ungrounded with your energy.

SPEAKER_02 26:43

Yeah, and if we were gonna take it down a rabbit hole, when you look in the mirror, why do you need to find that identity? Why does there have to be an identity? That would be my question.

SPEAKER_00 27:00

Well, I don't really know. Because when you look in the mirror deep, if i don't know I don't know how anybody else feels about it, but it makes you feel a little uncomfortable. Like when you're staring deep into the eyes and you're like, that feels a little weird when you do it.

SPEAKER_02 27:21

It does. It can for sure if you're not used to going in that place. Yeah, like it can.

SPEAKER_00 27:27

And when you when you connect, we can feel like, oh I I I feel that connection. I can see that. Yes, it does. But don't break the contact.

SPEAKER_02 27:39

You should stay there.

SPEAKER_00 27:40

Stay there. Because what happened to me this morning is it revealed to me of how I am acting. Like I am acting because of all the event that I had and all that stuff. I'm acting old. And so quit acting old.

SPEAKER_01 27:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:54

And so it was like a almost a vision within the vision that I was looking at.

SPEAKER_02 28:00

It was a really cool mirror mirror on the wall.

SPEAKER_00 28:03

Who's the sexiest man of them all?

SPEAKER_02 28:06

Oh it's the mirror mirror on the wall syndrome.

SPEAKER_00 28:09

And that's another rabbit hole right there.

SPEAKER_02 28:11

And technique.

SPEAKER_00 28:12

That Mandela effect about that phrase. That's going around the internet.

SPEAKER_02 28:17

Really?

unknown 28:18

Dude.

SPEAKER_00 28:19

What what was said in the movie?

SPEAKER_02 28:22

Oh, you mean like what was said?

SPEAKER_00 28:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:25

Well, I remember it as mirror, mirror on the wall. Who's the fairest of them all?

SPEAKER_00 28:30

But everybody's saying it's not the.

SPEAKER_02 28:32

It's changed.

SPEAKER_00 28:32

That's what they're saying. Right? They were saying the mirror was it that that phrase was never mirror, mirror on the wall.

SPEAKER_02 28:38

There are some that experienced it differently.

SPEAKER_00 28:41

Do you remember the uh what was it? The Looney Tunes with the Roadrunner and Coyote?

SPEAKER_02 28:47

Oh, absolutely. We watched it every day.

SPEAKER_00 28:49

And do you remember the one with the Indian I Know Something You Don't Know, You Don't Know, You Don't Know?

SPEAKER_02 28:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:56

Do you yeah? I do. Yeah. Um do you know that uh that song is supposedly uh didn't end with My Fair Lady?

SPEAKER_02 29:05

Oh, interesting. For some it didn't.

SPEAKER_00 29:09

Weird thing. Anyway, so back to the topic. So and when you look in the mirror, what do you see and what do you do? You know, like this morning I had that little bit of a vision within a vision.

SPEAKER_02 29:19

And what do you feel? Um that's the other question.

SPEAKER_00 29:24

That connection that I I could feel, I could really I could feel my own presence.

SPEAKER_02 29:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:28

Um when you let it stand there, I was there probably a couple, two, three, four minutes.

SPEAKER_01 29:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:33

And it it was to me, it uh it identified a couple things. You know, one is a that I'm acting different than who I am when I mean when it comes to how I feel. Like I uh I f I'm acting older than I am.

SPEAKER_03 29:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:52

Um and the other thing was is the perception by which I perceive myself, uh it g it brought that question in to place of do people perceive me as I perceive myself? Like because I happen to think I'm a pretty I'm a pretty solid guy all the way around. Didn't used to be. I was crazy back in the day in your reading in my book, but I'm a pretty solid guy now, pretty well-rounded, pretty, level-headed, pretty um uh pretty intelligent. Pretty and intelligent, just so you know.

SPEAKER_02 30:31

I was gonna say, is there a comma there?

Programming, Schools, And Social File Folders

SPEAKER_00 30:36

And I think that I think what everybody will see, and what was kind of revealed to me this morning, more than anything after that was that reflection that you see of yourself and what you think of yourself in your perception is 100% controlled by your own self-worth. Because if you look in yourself and you and you don't think yourself, you don't think you're a good person when you look in that mirror and you don't have a high self-worth, you're gonna think you're gonna look in the mirror and see something completely different than what you really are.

SPEAKER_03 31:13

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 31:16

You're being awful quiet in this podcast. When it comes to input, you're not checking in with it here yet, are you?

SPEAKER_02 31:22

You know, no, I'm checked in. I'm just I'm waiting.

SPEAKER_00 31:28

Waiting for your time.

SPEAKER_02 31:29

I'm waiting for my moment.

SPEAKER_00 31:31

And if you if you're you know like me, I'm a confident guy. People call it egotistical. Which for some reason we were on TV show last night that a guy talked actually explained that. Egotistical is not ego, it's confidence. Um and he's right.

SPEAKER_02 31:46

We've said that.

SPEAKER_00 31:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:48

It can be both. It can be both depending on where you're coming from.

SPEAKER_00 31:51

There's a difference between arrogance and egotistical.

SPEAKER_02 31:54

That's what a lot of people But it gets clumped together under this one general title of ego. And in the collective, ego usually carries a pretty negative connotation.

SPEAKER_00 32:06

Agreed. And so well, and so does uh uh arrogance.

SPEAKER_02 32:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:10

And most of the time that's just an overbearing.

SPEAKER_02 32:12

And it's a misunderstanding of the behavior, correct? Because confidence, knowing what you know, like you know, like you know, is a is a type of confidence that you're not gonna let anyone talk you out of that period. The end, and so when someone tries to come along and talk you out of it, and you don't come succumb to their way of seeing things, then those are the people that usually will tag you as arrogant or egotistical because you're not coming over to their side of the fence.

SPEAKER_00 32:55

I used to get that all the time.

SPEAKER_02 32:57

And their their inability to see it as a few years.

SPEAKER_00 33:01

There's a lot of people that view me when they first meet me as arrogant.

SPEAKER_02 33:05

Because they have never experienced the confidence part of that.

SPEAKER_00 33:09

Right. True. What's leading to that mirror moment is do you look in the mirror and and how do you however you view yourself? Now ask yourself how do I be able to view others? Do I view them as arrogant? And as is your viewpoint of each one of those people, um because of what? Because you've never been arrogant? Or are you maybe a narcissist?

SPEAKER_02 33:38

No, I mean, you know, titles are titles.

SPEAKER_00 33:40

Right. You can give yourself all the labels you want, just a way to describe it.

SPEAKER_02 33:44

Other people based on a belief system that triggers different flags.

SPEAKER_00 33:53

Agreed.

SPEAKER_02 33:54

That's how most people do it.

SPEAKER_00 33:57

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 33:57

Most people develop throughout their life a filing system in the brain.

SPEAKER_00 34:03

My hallway.

SPEAKER_02 34:04

So whenever you see a uh type of behavior or a sentence structure come out of someone's mouth, neuralistic programming, those kinds of words that you like to use.

SPEAKER_00 34:21

Linguistic programming.

SPEAKER_02 34:23

That sounds like a type of pasta.

SPEAKER_00 34:26

Neuro linguistic programming.

SPEAKER_02 34:29

Yeah, whatever. Anyway, what ends up happening is that you've defined those moments under certain categories of an identity or a characteristic of a socially uh segregated type of individual. Everybody does this subconsciously unless they're physically aware of intertwining with the person and being completely open to letting that person be whoever they are without judgment from yourself. That's a practiced technique.

SPEAKER_00 35:13

Okay.

Vision, Intention, And Mirror Gaze Practice

SPEAKER_02 35:14

So what everybody does for the most part, and I would say the numbers are high in the 80s, 90s, who don't practice the technique of not pre-judging the book by its cover, they have created in their processing mechanism social tags and identifiers and flags within that file folder. I agree. So if you're gonna use the word narcissist, then in that file folder in the operating system we call the brain, there are criteria or a definition of it, flags and a definition. Yeah, and if this person starts having any of those flags, you have predefined if they meet so many of them, some people have it, if they meet two of these, then boom, they're a narcissist. Yeah. If and then the next person may be more lenient and say, okay, well, if they meet five of these, then they're a narcissist. So it allows them to put up with that type of behavior a little bit longer.

SPEAKER_00 36:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:25

If the, you know, and then there may be a person that says, okay, if they meet 10 of them, then I'm gonna label them into that. And this all happens very quickly when you come across somebody. That's why mislabeling happens so easily and and and um uh subconsciously really, yeah. Unless you're aware that you're doing it.

SPEAKER_00 36:49

And here's the thing about that I want to add to that.

SPEAKER_02 36:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:52

Is a lot of the times that criteria that people put out there are based off their own That's where I was gonna go with it next. Not from what that what actually from other people. That's just you know, they have it and I had this conversation yesterday with one of the people at the yoga was she's debating on leaving her son in public school or homeschooling him because she is not believing that they're not programming him to think weakly, very weak.

SPEAKER_02 37:24

And weak as in strong versus weak, or weak as in.

SPEAKER_00 37:27

Weak as in strong versus weak. Weak versus not. She doesn't like she said that I can I can stimulate him at home in different ways and I can see his brilliant brain.

SPEAKER_01 37:38

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 37:38

But when he's at school, when he brings his stuff home, it's like he has his block. And so like that he's been programmed across the uh across the time in public schools to uh think within this area of responsibility only.

SPEAKER_02 37:54

Confinement.

SPEAKER_00 37:56

And so we were having this conversation about it is is they you know, he gets sent home because you know, he's a smart kid, but he's underperforming. And but I can go at home with him and I can talk to him and stimulate him and we'll learn together, and he's completely different. And so they sent him home with a label. And so now he's been labeled with troubled kids because not basically off of maybe what he's done, but because of what the textbook says as a troubled kid.

SPEAKER_02 38:23

Because the system does it.

SPEAKER_00 38:25

That's right, yeah. And it's the same way that we do as people with our own selves. Like, like you just said, we create a criteria in our filing cabinet of this is what uh arrogance looks like. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. And then we automatically interject our own story into it.

SPEAKER_02 38:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:42

Instead of really knowing who those that person is.

SPEAKER_02 38:45

Right. And we do that with ourselves.

SPEAKER_00 38:47

And we do it with ourselves. That's where I was going.

SPEAKER_02 38:49

And so until you get to a place where you look in that mirror and really look into, like you said, the eyes, don't just look at your nose, don't just look at your mouth.

SPEAKER_00 39:00

Look into your eyes, look straight into your pupils.

SPEAKER_02 39:03

Straight into your pupils, you'll find that at first it's uncomfortable.

SPEAKER_00 39:06

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 39:07

And the reason it's uncomfortable is because you're not processing it. You're not actually looking at the internal self. Right. When you begin to look at the internal self and own it and identify what it is, and start to do the work, then that uncomfortableness, when you look into your own eyes in the mirror, it will fade, it will go away.

SPEAKER_00 39:32

Totally.

SPEAKER_02 39:34

And it'll get more comfortable. And then you can have moments like you had where you get insight, you get uh, you know, whatever visions. Yeah, some people get visions, some people get insight. Some people just get a closer relationship with themselves.

SPEAKER_00 39:50

Yeah, I agree.

SPEAKER_02 39:51

And you know, that's that's the key component. If you can treat yourself like your own best friend, and you treat yourself the way you want the outside world to treat you, right, then you'll start experiencing that.

SPEAKER_00 40:05

And it's a great time to interject intentions when you're in that deep thought.

SPEAKER_02 40:10

That's right.

SPEAKER_00 40:11

If you'll talk to yourself while you're in that spot that you're deeply into your own peoples, yeah, it can subconsciously change the it will, it'll go right in.

SPEAKER_02 40:19

It's almost like a level of self-hypnosis um on a certain level.

Systems, Trades, And Thinking Outside The Box

SPEAKER_00 40:25

And when I took this this when I took this topic and was looking at it this morning, you know, that that was the former that's where the mirror dimensional thing, uh, you know, folklore come from that mirrors are dimensional changes, but what's there might be some truth to it. But back in the, you know, the 1500s or 1600s when they first started making mirror type things, um, and people could look into it, they called it dimensions because of just this. They look into it and they don't they don't feel themselves there, they see the presence of a person, but they don't fell the feel the energetic connection, so it creates that feeling of wow, that's a whole another dimension.

SPEAKER_01 41:08

Right.

SPEAKER_00 41:09

Like this exactly. I'm in another dimension.

SPEAKER_02 41:11

Yeah. And if we use that time, if they take it uh in a different direction and they do look into the eye and really connect with that inner being, that takes them to a whole nother dimension as well. That gives them better insight, better intuition, better clarity. It takes you to a different place. Right.

SPEAKER_00 41:34

And if you if you look into the mirror and you don't see your reflection, then you're a vampire.

SPEAKER_02 41:38

But unless you have the magic ring that lets you see your reflection and be out in the sun.

SPEAKER_00 41:48

Yeah, it's anyway.

SPEAKER_02 41:49

But you have to have the witch to you know activate the ring.

SPEAKER_00 41:54

Yes. The enchanted witch. What a terrible movie that was last night. Anyway.

SPEAKER_02 42:01

Right. We watched a cheap made movie.

SPEAKER_00 42:06

It was crazy, and it got all these awards.

SPEAKER_02 42:08

You fell asleep, and I was like, oh my god, I cannot do this anymore.

SPEAKER_00 42:12

But anyway, so when you're in that deep gaze into your own pupils, it's the perfect time to embed embed and interject into your own subconscious mind what you want to be.

SPEAKER_02 42:30

That's right. Your story.

SPEAKER_00 42:31

Your story, you know, like if you want to if you want to go be a millionaire because you trade stocks, then when you're in that spot, create the the story that you're gonna put in there, yeah, and and recite it to you. Yep.

SPEAKER_02 42:46

And and and so it's and on the other side of that, if you don't rabbit hole, part of that is truly it is a form of uh hypnotism. Hypnotism, it really is, and that's where you can get your uh vision board stuff, your affirmations, your belief changes or rewrites, yeah, your dissolving of certain patterns and stuff. If you'll use that technique, you can really bring about some massive and very quick change. Um it's a it's a different type of modality, obviously. Uh, if if you're not there yet, that's why I teach the mental meditation visualization, doing the same thing. It's just another technique to try, uh, because for some people it'll be uh quite an experience to go on that journey.

SPEAKER_00 43:44

Stay there. Like this morning, I had to be there like 10 minutes, I think. It was like insane.

SPEAKER_02 43:49

Yeah, especially if you can do it where you've got like a standing mirror that sits on the floor where you can actually sit in front of it, get comfortable, and really go into that eye space and really meditate with that, you'll get some pretty profound information about yourself and the way you see the world. Yeah, it can really be a truly uh self guided meditation experience if you really practice it and. And give it space to evolve.

SPEAKER_00 44:24

Right. And that's kind of all marries in together because that's where I went this morning and that's where I've kind of been a little bit over the last couple of days in those mirror moments in life and and reflecting. Sorry. It's a mirror joke.

SPEAKER_02 44:47

You little pun intended. Where's the pun button?

SPEAKER_00 44:54

That was a good joke. That was a good joke there.

SPEAKER_02 44:56

That wasn't quite the button I was looking for.

SPEAKER_00 44:59

But when you reflect on yourself and you really take that time, um it's it's very humbling too.

SPEAKER_03 45:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:06

Um it's very because you and the the reality is this, and we teach this, is in when the in the power posit the power of positive thought school, we teach about the subconscious mind and its habits and how lazy it is. It doesn't like to change. It's kind of like the electricity, it's the it'll go to the path of least resistance every single time. Yeah. Because it's electrons flowing through your body and your brain. Just throw that out there. People don't seem to understand it sometimes when we have that school. But when you your your subconscious mind creates those lazy habits, like every time you look in the mirror, if you don't make eye contact with yourself, it's because your subconscious mind doesn't know how to process it because you don't do it.

SPEAKER_02 45:48

Because you haven't practiced it.

SPEAKER_00 45:49

Right. And so if it's uncomfortable for you, then that's why. Is because the it's that lack of ability to process what you're seeing because you've never done it, because the subconscious mind is lazy and it's going to make it feel uncomfortable. And because now you've got to train it. And that's the same thing we do with all of our beliefs in life.

unknown 46:07

Mm-hmm.

Bringing It Back: Imposter Syndrome Links

SPEAKER_00 46:08

Is that subconscious mind will go through each step of the belief repetitively, no matter what the belief is, until you have that mirror moment within it and change it.

SPEAKER_02 46:21

And so how does this feed off of the imposter thing?

SPEAKER_00 46:25

Well, because I was reading some of the stuff today on imposter because we just put out that one on imposter syndrome. I was looking at it this morning, and there was a lady, she's a psychologist.

SPEAKER_01 46:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 46:36

And uh trying to remember her name. Maiden It doesn't matter. But she was a she she put out an Instagram about imposter syndrome because it's the hot topic.

SPEAKER_02 46:47

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 46:48

And how the subconscious mind is triggered because you have been taught to not believe in yourself. And so when you do put things out there that is valuable to others and you don't feel like you're really that person that's putting it out there, it's because you've been trained that that you're not that person because of the basically the the standards of how people are trained growing up.

SPEAKER_02 47:20

Do you know why?

SPEAKER_00 47:21

No. Would you like to please elaborate?

SPEAKER_02 47:24

I can if you would like.

SPEAKER_00 47:26

I would like.

SPEAKER_02 47:27

It starts when we're children.

SPEAKER_00 47:29

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 47:31

If you're given the room to be whatever or whoever you want, then you are an out-of-control child that the parent can't control. Okay. It's about control. Okay. And so you so let me give you this example. If you have a two-year-old that's been given the freedom to be whatever and honor their emotions and all of that, and you go to Walmart and they have an emotional response to something, and they throw themselves in the in the floor, and you let them sit there and have their fit because that's where they are in the now and the moment, and everyone around you starts giving you dirty looks or making negative comments, you immediately get embarrassed, and you don't want your child behaving in that way in public. So you scoop them up and either get on to them or you leave the store because of what they perceive like a digital situation.

SPEAKER_00 48:38

With you. Oh, my bad, sorry.

SPEAKER_02 48:44

And so then you're living from a place of what does society expect out of me?

SPEAKER_00 48:51

Right. Agreed.

SPEAKER_02 48:52

Rather than uh from a place of I'm gonna do me and my children are gonna do them and whatever that looks like. And if you're offended or bothered, then you need to remove yourself from the aisle because we're having this moment. It's a control thing. So parents discipline and based off of their their perception of what other people are gonna think. Or what they think other people are gonna think. That's the key.

SPEAKER_00 49:22

Well, this falls into that same mindset of that once an Ivy League always an Ivy League. You asked me if I was gonna talk, and then you don't give me room to talk. Go ahead. No, no, go ahead. I thought we may banter together here.

SPEAKER_02 49:33

We were. That's bantering.

SPEAKER_00 49:35

That is bantering. Sorry, that uh I really thought that was disciplinary. Like I got yesterday for not being productive.

SPEAKER_02 49:44

Go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 49:46

Um But that falls into that same category. Once Ivy, always Ivy. You know, I don't know if you reheard it or not. It's a I don't know who that's it used to be back in the 90s. It was a one of the phrases that all the speakers talked about is if you want to change your mindset, you if you if you want to be Ivy, you have to think Ivy.

SPEAKER_02 50:02

Who's Ivy?

SPEAKER_00 50:03

Ivy League. Ivy League education, Ivy League money.

SPEAKER_02 50:06

Ivy's a plant.

SPEAKER_00 50:07

Well, back then it was considered a a a status symbol.

SPEAKER_02 50:12

Why? Because it is proven that Ivy's are hard to kill.

SPEAKER_00 50:18

No, you're trying to kill my conversation here. What are you doing?

SPEAKER_02 50:21

No, I'm just trying to find the correlation.

Wrap-Up, Events, And Calls To Action

SPEAKER_00 50:23

The correlation is that it is proven that if your if your family previous to you were Ivy League, that you are more apt to be Ivy League again because they're they are trained to do the same processes.

SPEAKER_02 50:41

Right. Yeah, I get what you're saying.

SPEAKER_00 50:43

And like, you know, like how many times are you seeing father and son attorneys or father and son doctors of some sort, and you know, and it's following the family heritage, following the the family legacy, the lineage. Yeah. Uh-huh. And that's it's it's the same mindset, just the opposite to where because the conversation with yesterday with the lady, because I asked the lady, you know, well, what do you plan on doing? Oh, I don't know, I can't do that. Well, if you look in the mirror and tell yourself if you can, you can. But uh, you know, talking about teaching her son in private, you know, home, homeschooling.

SPEAKER_02 51:14

Let's see.

SPEAKER_00 51:16

But the the the other part of that is is we are trained to think the opposite direction. Like they used to come around and talk about the Ivy League stuff, thinking if you want to be Ivy League, you have to think Ivy League. But yet they don't give you the spots, they just tell you to do that. And so they're not giving you the tools to do that. And one of those steps was to basically network yourself into the Ivy League presence.

SPEAKER_02 51:44

And without telling you how to do it.

SPEAKER_00 51:45

Without telling you how to do it.

SPEAKER_02 51:46

Oh, that's handy.

SPEAKER_00 51:48

Yeah, I don't know. That's great stuff anyway.

SPEAKER_02 51:49

That's about as handy as used up toilet paper.

SPEAKER_00 51:52

Well, you know, on the the negative side of that, I mean the other side of that is is is they don't want you to be there, really. They want it, they want you to keep they want to keep you down here so you continue to pay for their conferences and come in and see them. Yeah, that's where I was trying to go with it before you interrupted me. Oh, I'm sorry, go ahead. See, that was that was punishment, wasn't it? I told you all that a minute ago.

SPEAKER_02 52:12

Right, that's what I was saying, is that you that that behavior comes from programming.

SPEAKER_00 52:19

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_02 52:20

Even in the corporate world, if you take it to the place where, like your job years ago, people want you to stay in your position. They don't want you to elevate and climb the ladder. And a lot of companies won't even hire from within up the ladder.

SPEAKER_00 52:38

Which is stupid.

SPEAKER_02 52:39

They will go outside and run a whole new marketing thing to bring in fresh new candidates for an open position. Right. Because they don't want you to be outside of the place where you are.

SPEAKER_00 52:55

Right. They have a nose and they'll let you.

SPEAKER_02 52:57

Right. And and you know, they want somebody who's gonna stay in that spot because it's uh what do you call it? It's less cost of acquisition of the employee. It costs less to do all of that. It's all excuses. It is all excuses, but what I'm saying is they condition your mind to stay status quo inside that job for the benefit of the organization, not for the benefit of the individual.

SPEAKER_00 53:28

That's right.

SPEAKER_02 53:30

And there are many programs and constructs out there that are designed the exact same way. Yeah, it's to benefit the organization and their intention and their agenda. It's not to benefit the individual that's inside the matrix or the construct or the organization most of the time.

SPEAKER_04 53:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 53:50

So you get programmed to not look at those things. You get programmed to not even identify with all the possibilities that could be because they want you to stay where you're at because it benefits their agenda, whoever they happen to be.

SPEAKER_00 54:09

Right.

SPEAKER_02 54:09

Unfortunately and inadvertently, our parents do it, and they don't even realize they're doing it. Yeah, school systems do it. I don't know if they realize they're doing it or not, but I feel like they, by underlying design, the bigger creators of the school system know that they did it and constructed it that way for control over this mass amount of children. Yeah. The teachers on a daily basis, they probably don't even see the bigger picture, most of them.

SPEAKER_00 54:38

They just follow what they're doing.

SPEAKER_02 54:39

They just follow what they're told to do uh all the way over to employment. You know, if you're a blue-collared employee who's the nurse or the receptionist or the office assistant, you just go get a job and you do what you're told and you go home at five o'clock when the when the whistle blows, and you don't even realize or recognize that you're being programmed inside an organization or a platform or a program or system to be exactly what they want you to be.

SPEAKER_00 55:17

Right.

SPEAKER_02 55:18

Not room for you to think outside the box.

SPEAKER_00 55:21

Right. That's that was the explanation I'd kind of made to her yesterday was this is I would because you know, she's close to her age. And I would said, back when we were in school, what were they pushing for you to do when you get out of high school? Oh, you go get a college, go get a degree, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You know, back in the day it was business degrees, go get a business degree, and da da da da da. And I said, and what are they pushing now? Oh, trade work, trades. Yeah. And so have you stopped and think about it for a moment? Do you think that they're pushing trades because they want less competition in their own world? And she was like, huh. Wow. I'm saying that's kind of like like uh you going to pay for a speaker, you go to a ticket, they and they tell you th that you need to earn more money and this is how you're gonna do it, but yet they don't actually give you the entire process of it. Right. Why? Because they want to sell more tickets.

SPEAKER_03 56:25

Right.

SPEAKER_00 56:26

And that's the same way that that it happens to you in the school systems, and we do it to ourselves because we have been trained and programmed to think that way. And one of the things that we do subconsciously is we are not looking at ourselves in the mirror.

SPEAKER_02 56:42

Right. And that part of partially comes from, you know, follow the rules. You've been trained to follow the rules.

SPEAKER_00 56:51

Right.

SPEAKER_02 56:51

Don't go against the rules, don't not follow the rules, you'll get in trouble. Fear, fear, fear.

SPEAKER_00 56:58

What is the most that you can remember when you were a kid? Or say no, maybe maybe maybe young adult. What was one of the most influential movies that you can remember that when you were that age that you thought to yourself, hmm, that would be a cool way to live. Charlie in a chocolate factory. What does he have? He has he has a he's guess he's got all this money and he's got all this fun things to do, uh-huh. But what's working around him all the time? All those robots, all those impalumpas.

SPEAKER_02 57:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 57:32

That he controls.

SPEAKER_02 57:33

And the machines.

SPEAKER_00 57:34

And the machines.

SPEAKER_02 57:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 57:36

And so here you are. We're that we're you know, that was an influential movie in our time. It was fun, it was outgoing, and it makes you want to be Willy in the Willy Wonk in the chocolate factory to give out the golden tickets to people. Yeah. But yet you're an umpalompa. But you're an umpalompa.

SPEAKER_02 57:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 57:52

And so it is it's that same mindset.

SPEAKER_02 57:54

And so when you look in the mirror because the factory doesn't function without the umpalumpas, that's correct.

SPEAKER_00 58:02

Which is why they're pushing trades now. And AI is on the rise and they're pushing trades. Does that make any damn sense? AI has nothing to do with trades.

SPEAKER_02 58:11

Yeah, I don't know what a trade is.

SPEAKER_00 58:13

Like plumbers, electricians, builders, you know, the the the skilled trades.

SPEAKER_02 58:19

Uh huh.

SPEAKER_00 58:20

Air conditioner guys, you know, environmental services.

SPEAKER_02 58:23

Now that's the profession to go into.

SPEAKER_00 58:25

That's what they're yeah, they're saying now that that's the next level of per profession to get into. But yeah, that makes zero sense to me when they're gonna automate it all.

SPEAKER_02 58:35

Well, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 58:36

They already are. They're they're already 3D printing homes.

SPEAKER_02 58:39

Right. I mean, even in the medical field, they've already got robots doing surgery and shit.

SPEAKER_00 58:45

Right. And so that makes zero sense. And so now they're pushing the trade stuff, but yet it's in ten years from now, who knows what that's gonna be. And so I you know, think outside the box. Have those mirror moments and identify within your life what you want within your intentions. Do you agree with that? You look uh like a little puzzled.

SPEAKER_02 59:08

Nope, I'm not puzzled. I just uh it's very surface.

SPEAKER_00 59:14

Yeah, I agree.

SPEAKER_02 59:15

There's a whole rabbit hole section in the mirror moment.

SPEAKER_00 59:20

I agree.

SPEAKER_02 59:20

You know, it's not just thinking outside the box, honestly, because whenever you can have that mirrored moment that you keep calling it, when you really can look in the mirror and take it to a whole nother existential level of really resonating with yourself and cleaning up that, then none of the rest of the shit matters. I agree. And most people are so uncomfortable now about doing that, they won't do it.

SPEAKER_00 59:54

Yeah, I agree.

SPEAKER_02 59:55

Because they've gotten complacent and comfortable in living inside the matrix, living inside the process, going to their nine to five. They've just figured out loopholes on being okay with the status quo.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:10

Is people still have the want to have a nine to five job, but there's very little nine to five jobs anymore. Yes, because it's been so trained into.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:22

I have a five to nine job.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:24

I think it's five to six.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:28

Actually, it's probably more like uh five to seven. Well, we I probably work about two hours a day.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:35

Well, we do our own thing. We I mean we we have created a world that we love.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:40

And uh and we definitely don't live inside any of those grits and matrix. We don't but anyway, so anyway, so for me, the mirror moment is uh is a much different construct and you're still staying very surface.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:59

I am staying surface on purpose because I want people to I want to uh I want people to be like I was this morning in Twitter.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:04

And I am not sure how that ties into imposter. I'm still waiting for you to tie that together with the imposter.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:10

Well then maybe we'll have a part two of the mirror moments. But it I I would challenge everybody to stop and look at themselves when they look they're looking in the mirror, spend that time looking deep into your eyes.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:21

Just try and connect and see how happens.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:23

And if if you can't make it five seconds, then tomorrow make it six.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:27

You know, until you can sit there and lecture look into yourself until you get that vision.

unknown 1:01:34

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:35

But anyway, I feel complete.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:38

I'm glad.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:40

Are you complete?

SPEAKER_02 1:01:41

Absolutely not.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:42

You're not complete?

SPEAKER_02 1:01:43

No.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:43

Why? You want to continue talking?

SPEAKER_02 1:01:45

No, we need to cut it because we're getting close to time because Father Time said so. But it doesn't feel complete to me. It definitely warrants additional conversation.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:58

Okay, we can do that. Do you want to do it now or do you want to do it later? Anyway.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:05

I I think I think we're done.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:08

Okay. Well, hey guys, uh, don't forget to uh like, follow, and share. Tell your friends about it.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:12

I don't think your message got across.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:14

It's okay, we'll get it next time.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:16

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:16

We'll we'll do a part two. Don't forget to like, follow, and share. Hey, go to uh www.themercenders.org. You can check out all the merch, the books, see what we do. And hey, if you got an app idea, send it our way. Maybe we'll uh help you get that developed.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:32

Right. Or even a podcast idea.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:34

Even a podcast idea, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:35

We're open, man. Um we literally will talk about anything, we'll conversate about anything.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:43

Yes, we will. Yeah. Completely. And uh don't forget to check out Lucidiumworld.com. Go ahead and sign up for that early bird. Um you can you can get that on the link at the bottom of this description of this podcast. And uh see us at Ozark Research Institution's annual power of thought school that's gonna be in Springdale, Arkansas on uh April 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:08

Springdale?

SPEAKER_00 1:03:09

Yeah, it's right next to Fayetteville.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:11

Oh, I was gonna say I thought it was in Fayetteville.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:13

It is it is Fayetteville, but it's technically addressed to Springdale. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:18

Because it's right on it's on the other side of the highway from uh it's one of those little towns that blends together.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:23

No, it's Springdale is where the home of Walmart is. But it's it's just at the very southern end of it, and it's only unless like a little section of it that's owned. But anyway, we'll be there the uh April 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th. Um, what else was there just announced? Yeah, yeah, pay attention to the binary babe apparel because we're gonna do one t-shirt drop and do a skills test online to win some money.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:47

Yeah, and then uh the lucidium.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:50

And lucidium, that's right. Oh yeah, March 7th, guys.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:53

March 7th, I think we're gonna I think we're gonna hit that before a little bit before that. I think so too. We're definitely on track. We got notice today that we're still on track for March 7th launch.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:05

Yeah, and last time they said that they called three days later and said they were ready to do beta.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:09

Right.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:09

And so I'm hoping that happens first part of the week.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:12

Yep, yep.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:12

So anyway, guys, uh we really enjoy you uh and we appreciate y'all tuning in and listening to us.

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