The Spiritual Grind
Dr. Jenni PhD,RN,CHLC,CH and medium and Rev. James ORD, MhsB have spent countless years studying and practicing many modalities within the "Spiritual" domain. Dr. Jenni has dedicated her life to helping others by attending countless schools and developing each of her practices and strategies. Rev. James has studied many modalities and Native American practices and they have Both decided to open their library of knowledge to share this information with everyone in a down to earth style, with hope to assist in making your journey easier and more abundant.
The Spiritual Grind
How Prompting Yourself Like AI Transforms Your Reality
What if you prompted your mind the way you prompt AI? We pull back the curtain on a simple, powerful shift: set identity first, then ask better questions. That single change turns vague wants into precise direction, quiets the inner critic, and moves your day from hesitation to action.
We start with a personal milestone—finally launching a long-labored book—and use it to explore why people misuse AI and themselves. Instead of “How do I make money?” try “I’m a creator who earns daily by shipping useful work. What’s today’s step?” That identity-first prompt mirrors how ChatGPT excels when you define its role. Code is to AI what beliefs are to humans; prompts are to models what affirmations, habits, and visualizations are to us. Once you grasp that, you stop waiting for permission and begin training your inner operating system with clear, repeatable inputs.
Real stories make the process concrete: a career pivot built from a resume update and one class, an investment choice made by trusting internal conviction, and the stubborn weight of family scripts like “people like us don’t…” We show how to catch that narrative in real time, reframe it without fluff, and take the smallest possible action that proves a new story true. Perception becomes the lever; belief becomes the code; action becomes the compiler. Over days and weeks, your inner model produces better answers because you’ve trained it to.
If you’re curious about practical mindset tools, habit design, and how to use AI as a clean mirror for self-change, you’ll feel at home here. We’re building resources to shorten the breadcrumb trail—books, tools, and an app designed to help you recode beliefs and act with calm momentum. Subscribe, share this with a friend who needs a push, and leave a review with the identity you’ll claim tomorrow. What prompt will you give yourself today?
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Good morning, everybody. Welcome back to the spiritual grind. We are in studio again.
SPEAKER_03:Good morning.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. What a busy few days.
SPEAKER_03:What an awful big sigh.
SPEAKER_00:Well, I've been busy, man. I've been like crazy busy. I've got my book up. I've got it.
SPEAKER_03:You birthed the book.
SPEAKER_00:Finally, the year the massively long. Well, I say massive, it's not massive, it's like 292 pages. But a book that I've been birthing for a couple Well, I've been trying to get the goal up to do it over the course of my life and because I get asked the question a lot, you know, and so it was time to put it in a bird a book.
SPEAKER_03:Absolutely.
SPEAKER_00:It was time.
SPEAKER_03:It was time.
SPEAKER_00:I was waiting for the email from KDP to say it's launched.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Waiting for that email.
SPEAKER_03:Absolutely.
SPEAKER_00:Because it's a long book, so they have to skin, you know, it's a lot of I think they actually have somebody that reads them, I believe.
SPEAKER_03:I'm not sure. You're the expert on that, actually.
SPEAKER_00:I don't know. But I know the Dustin job listed one time as an Amazon reader, so I assume that's what it is.
SPEAKER_03:Oh. I wouldn't I don't think I'd want that job.
SPEAKER_00:I don't think so either. Were you required to read a book? Yeah. Even though it doesn't interest you?
SPEAKER_03:It would make me feel like I was back in school.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Like read this book now. Right. But if you get paid to do it, you may do it. Who knows?
SPEAKER_03:I mean, I like to read, don't get me wrong, but I want to do it at my pace for my reasons. I don't want somebody telling me. You know, here's the thing. Having a traditional J-O-B under somebody else's construct is just not interesting to me at all, no matter what it looks like.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I agree.
SPEAKER_03:Especially working for myself again.
SPEAKER_00:But it's much better.
SPEAKER_03:I'm just not interested in honoring somebody else's mission statement.
SPEAKER_00:Are you ready for the controversial topic of the day?
SPEAKER_03:Do tell.
SPEAKER_00:It's the big topic that's all over the internet that everybody's talking about.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:And how it's a um it's a unicorn, but yet it's still just an alligator waiting to bite you, they think. All over the universe. It's the opinions about it are they're all over the spectrum. They go from one end to the next.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:And we're talking about AI, artificial intelligence.
SPEAKER_03:Dun dun dun.
SPEAKER_00:And you wrote an article about it on your blogger.
SPEAKER_03:I have. I've written several articles that are waiting to be posted.
SPEAKER_00:You know, the crazy part about it is I was reading some of the the stuff about it. About how they expected our age group to resist more more to it than anybody else.
SPEAKER_03:I find that interesting. I know. We're I feel like our age group, whatever we're called, what are we called?
SPEAKER_00:Baby boomers.
SPEAKER_03:No. We're generation. Gen X.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Gen X.
SPEAKER_03:X. Okay.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_03:The baby boomers are our parents, right?
SPEAKER_00:And then you get the millennials.
SPEAKER_03:We're the perfect ones for AI.
SPEAKER_00:I know, right?
SPEAKER_03:Because we were raised in between the the two eras.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I agree.
SPEAKER_03:As an individual with a doctorate in studying humans, their era, their social construct, and everything like that. I can honestly tell you, our generation, which is like late 40s, mid-50s, born like in the 70s. Yeah. We first were brought into the reality where there were no computers.
SPEAKER_01:Right.
SPEAKER_03:There were no mobile phones. Right. We did not grow up carrying around a phone in our pocket.
SPEAKER_00:No, I didn't get one until I was like 18.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. I mean, I'd be even older than that. I was older than that.
SPEAKER_00:I didn't have colored television until high school.
SPEAKER_03:I can remember being like 19 and still the bag phone was so expensive. Nobody could afford the minute.
SPEAKER_00:Owned one, yep.
SPEAKER_03:And so what we did was, you know, we would I can remember Lou leaving school saying, okay, I'll call you when I get home as soon as the phone is available.
SPEAKER_00:Right, because we had party lines.
SPEAKER_03:Because we had to wait our turn. And if you pick up the phone and somebody is on it, and you just have to wait, man. Yeah, and it was crazy because you had all those phone numbers memorized.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, we didn't have it, we didn't have to, we didn't have something that reminded us of phone numbers. We had to memorize it. I still remember my very first phone number.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. We had all of that in our brain memorized.
SPEAKER_00:And so that's what what I thought was funny about when I was researching it this morning, talking about it, or so I get ready for the talk about it. It was like our they thought our generation was going to be hesitant towards it, but we've already lived through electronic evolution.
SPEAKER_03:Right. We lived through going from check to debit card.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, we went through black and white the color on television.
SPEAKER_03:That's right.
SPEAKER_00:Cell phones, computers. I didn't have a computer until my sophomore or a junior year in high school.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. And the first computer we had was like the green screen DOS.
SPEAKER_00:I'll never forget what ours was. Ours was a Timex Sinclair.
SPEAKER_03:Wow.
SPEAKER_00:It was made by Timex. And it was actually a cassette drive. It had a cassette, like a cassette for your uh a radio. It that's what it used the software was. So instead of having like a floppy disk or micro SD cards or any of that stuff, it was actually a cassette deck.
SPEAKER_03:Now, did you have that at home or did you have it just in school?
SPEAKER_00:No, but that was at home. It was uh one that my parents bought. That was probably that may have been my senior year, maybe.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. We I didn't have one at home. The only exposure to the computer I got was at the library when they finally came out with them. Yeah. And in school when I took the class Intro to Computer. And so basically all the time.
SPEAKER_00:That's where they introduced computers to us.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. And so when you had to take that that year, you went from not knowing anything about the computer to your end goal of being able to write DOS. Write the code.
SPEAKER_00:Not code. DOS. It was the code, yeah. Well, but in kind of, I guess in a way it was back then.
SPEAKER_03:In today's terminology, it was a form of code to to get DOS to do what you wanted to. And your end goal in our class was to be able to write some command, hit run, and it would draw a picture of like a heart or something on the screen, and that's what you got graded on.
SPEAKER_00:Yep. I remember the the Clash Run dash, whatever. I remember all that was years ago.
SPEAKER_03:I found it extremely exciting.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it was pretty cool to make it. And I remember we had a flight simulator that was literally just dots on the screen.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And you it had a dashboard that had the elevation and stuff.
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_00:But there was no sky, there was none of that. It was all just dark.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Or even the Atari.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, the Atari.
SPEAKER_03:Of like Pong.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Like we didn't have game consoles until until probably my middle school year somewhere. Is when uh what was the first one? Uh uh Nintendo. Not Nintendo, Sega. It was Sega.
SPEAKER_03:Sega and then Atari. Then Atari. Atari first, and then Sega. Right. I I remember my cousin, I I would go and visit them in the summer. Yeah. And stay for a few days. And I didn't like it.
SPEAKER_01:Right.
SPEAKER_03:But what I did like was I liked playing with her Atari. They had money. Bink, bink. And so they, you know, they got the latest and greatest stuff. Yep. But her mom was very bossy.
SPEAKER_00:About it. And stay off that ruin your mind.
SPEAKER_03:Well, she was just very structured and very bossy. And uh, and so the child, my cousin, um was a little spoiled. So she never wanted to play the game. Yeah. She always had to beg her. I'll do your chores if we can go play afterwards and play your Atari. Yeah, play some power. It's the only way I could get her to do it. She was kind of lazy.
SPEAKER_00:I remember turning the TV off and you could still hear the pong playing. Bink, being.
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_00:But and so in the research, it was telling them that our generation was going to be resistant, and they think that our kids were going to be open to it. And now the younger generation, I don't know what they call them now, were going to be the ones who are like, oh no, no, no. But it's actually our kids. Our our our kids generation, which we, you know, brought them up, you know, really gathering and taking information like our son is a coder, for gosh sake.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. And well, with with uh with the the two my half, they were I allowed them to get their first phone like in the summer of their third and fourth grade year.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:My son got his first phone uh for you know to have for emergencies or whatever.
SPEAKER_00:Um the Nokia 3160.
SPEAKER_03:Something like that. Hello Moto.
SPEAKER_00:Hello Moto, yeah, I remember that. That was so funny. I remember it. It seemed like the cell phone.
SPEAKER_03:He would embrace it a lot easier, but we had uh our kids were down uh for holiday, and we got to talking about the AI, and she is totally freaked out about it.
SPEAKER_00:I know. And the baby the baby boomers are are they actually more open to it than the millennials are.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, a bigger percentage of them are they're like excited about seeing what it does. Right.
SPEAKER_00:They're curious about it because you know now they they too have been through other electronic growth. But but you know, anyway, we're kind of off topic, but it kind of brings to the AI is the topic, but you know, if you all have studied AI at all, you'll find out that it's 99% prompted. What that means is you tell it what to do. But what a lot of people don't understand is they're using AI wrong. And so like they're using AI to Google search things and say who, just the general problem. Like what I read this morning, 72% of people aren't using AI in the way it was created to be used.
SPEAKER_04:Right.
SPEAKER_00:And those so they're using it in more like a Google search or a uh um a word or an Excel. They're using it in those of things, and those are just the baby steps of AI. What do they do?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, or even like just the companion feature.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, the basically, you know, a lot of people are using it for verbal journaling that goes it and it they don't realize that that it doesn't save that.
SPEAKER_03:It'll go right.
SPEAKER_00:It'll it'll disappear.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah. And it'll go so much more beyond that.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, we have so much, and so I you know, over the last few weeks, I've been really actually the last few months, I've been really getting more software friendly because uh you know, we're because we are creating an app and learning about social media and doing a lot of in-depth stuff and spoke, I've spoken to hundreds of marketing people.
SPEAKER_03:Well, and not only that, but educating ourselves. We learn something every single day about what's out there, how to use it, how to incorporate it to make our job, so to speak, that we do now easier.
SPEAKER_00:Correct, 100%. But here's the the part of it that really resonated with me this morning in my research.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Is we are teaching people to prompt AI for AI to do things. Like, for example, if you want AI to do something, say for you're gonna have you're gonna have uh uh Chat GPT write you uh your uh scripts for a social for your social feeds.
SPEAKER_04:Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_00:And what you're doing is is you're just telling Chat GPT, hey, oh will you write me some scripts for uh social media feeds and so I can get more followers? When really what you're supposed to do first is tell ChatGPT to become something.
SPEAKER_05:Right.
SPEAKER_00:And how that resonated with me this morning was is thinking, you know, they're teaching us to prompt ourselves.
SPEAKER_03:Actually very, very good. That's what I'm teaching.
SPEAKER_00:Right, and that's what we have been teaching, but I never thought of it in that sense.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Because, like, for example, if you get up every day and you do your affirmations or your meditation and your yoga, and in your mind you're saying to yourself, I uh I want to be this, I want to be that, and we're not doing it right as a general population or human or a human that's living in this world.
SPEAKER_03:Say more.
SPEAKER_00:You need to, instead of saying it in a way of, um, I want to have more money, I want to have this, and or even talking to chat and saying, Tell me how to make money. And when you should be telling yourself every morning in the shower is today, I am the biggest financial guru in the world. I'm gonna make a thousand dollars today, whatever that is. You have to prompt yourself in a positive way, just like you do, like we're supposed to be doing with AI.
SPEAKER_03:Right. And so uh if you don't mind, step in, please step in and take it from there because it is a beautiful way of explaining the intention behind uh reformatting the belief blueprint. You essentially have come to a place where you don't necessarily like aspects of your reality, and for some people they hate their entire reality, their entire existence, they think sucks. Well, in our teachings, if you have books and podcasts and and what have you, that's exactly what I'm trying to get people to see is you tell yourself, okay, you want to be a world-renowned best-selling author, go in mentally visualize the future you already living in that existence, pick out the things that you can bring into your reality and do those things in an effort to make baby steps towards that reality that already exists.
SPEAKER_00:100%.
SPEAKER_03:So you're basically telling your AI self what you want it to be, and then listening for the information to come in as to what the next steps are. What are the next best steps that I can do to pull that reality into a living, breathing existence now?
SPEAKER_01:Right.
SPEAKER_03:And so you're saying that you do that same thing with the actual AI program that's out there.
SPEAKER_00:Let me uh let me interlude here.
SPEAKER_03:Please come in, the door is open.
SPEAKER_00:Because I would I think people need to have a better understanding about AI and us.
SPEAKER_05:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:Once of all, first of all, AI does not work without human interaction.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Just like us.
SPEAKER_05:Right.
SPEAKER_00:AI does not work without coding.
SPEAKER_05:Right.
SPEAKER_00:Which the same as us because our coding is called beliefs.
SPEAKER_05:Right.
SPEAKER_00:And AI doesn't work without the link between coding and the human experience. Which for us is our affirmations, our positive, our positive mind mind, the thoughts and and things that we come up with that are that link us from the coding to the human experience. And that's what your book talks about in the scripted from believe or scripted from within. And mine is about creating habits that do the same thing.
SPEAKER_04:That's right.
SPEAKER_00:Creating a positive mindset, which is coding your interbelief system.
SPEAKER_03:Exactly.
SPEAKER_00:Now I now I drop the mic and walk away. Just kidding. That was for you, Danielle. You notice she didn't correct me, Danielle. Done.
SPEAKER_03:Absolutely. That's the whole underlying premise of what we try to teach is how to get people from point A to point B.
SPEAKER_00:That's correct.
SPEAKER_03:And so our hope is that wording it in this beautiful way as we've not ever done before, uh, will help it ring people's bell.
SPEAKER_00:And and there's so many similarities, because let me talk about this.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:If you address AI, say you get on your Chat GPT and say I hate you today, what is Chat GPT gonna say back to you?
SPEAKER_03:I don't know. I've never tried it.
SPEAKER_00:It's gonna come back to you with a some kind of a positive response, which is trained. So if you go at somebody in a negative way, they're gonna mirror back your energy. But we go to AI, it doesn't. That's because it has been coded or belief systemed to not do that to themselves.
SPEAKER_05:Right.
SPEAKER_00:And us as humans, if we go at our at ourselves with a negative, we're going to get a negative back.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:So how do you change that coding? That's what we have to do. That's what we are doing in our books, in our podcasts, on our websites, and in Lucidian world that we're developing. It's about training that coding that you have or your belief systems that you have to not be negative upon yourself.
SPEAKER_03:Right. Because your own words inside your own ears, inside your own head are so, so very powerful.
SPEAKER_00:That's right.
SPEAKER_03:So powerful. Because you know, here's even whenever you're lecturing to someone else because you think you're helping them, nine times out of ten, what you're saying is the very thing that you need to hear yourself say. And for a lot of people, what will happen is they'll say something to somebody else, and it'll click into place for them, yeah. Either right then or a couple of days later, and they'll be like, hmm, okay, you know what? Epiphenal moment, this is what I got out of what I said to that person.
SPEAKER_00:Right.
SPEAKER_03:If they're aware and paying attention.
SPEAKER_00:Correct. You know, and that is another similarity that AI has with the human experience. You have the inner voice. We have the outer voice. AI, in case you haven't ever done, if you don't believe me, give AI a hard question on a on a desktop and watch what it does. It actually talks to its inner voice.
unknown:It does.
SPEAKER_00:They talk back and forth.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. We watched it do it that day.
SPEAKER_00:So that's their their aka conscious self talking to their subconscious self.
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_00:But you'll never once say, uh, why didn't you get that right? Or you don't see it being negative to itself. It's saying, Oh, this is what the person wants. This may do oh, okay, so maybe we can do it this way. They're like literally they're communicating back and forth with themselves and learning inside the app.
SPEAKER_03:Inside the app we've seen it happen.
SPEAKER_00:So I've seen it happen a bunch. Yeah. There's videos of it all over the the internet.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And so that is still the human experience because we have the inner voice too.
SPEAKER_03:That's right. We go in and we conversate uh with ourselves and talk ourselves through situations, circumstances, events, correct, um, all the time.
SPEAKER_01:Yep.
SPEAKER_03:Whether that conversation is positive or monkey mode, if you identify it as that. Or if you're even identifying or acknowledging that you know that you're doing it, some people don't even know that they're doing it.
SPEAKER_01:Right.
SPEAKER_03:Um, you know, one of one of the most common things I see is whenever a human is going into a meeting or a presentation that they have a little bit of a fear or unknown about, they'll rehearse it inside themselves.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And I do it all the time.
SPEAKER_00:Do it in front of the mirror or you say stuff to me all the time because I rehearse what I'm going to say to people.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. I do it all the time. Right, right. And that's naturally what we do automatically. That's humans. Now here's the difference.
SPEAKER_00:Here's the difference.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:AI's belief system or coding, aka coding, does not have negativity towards self. In the human, we do. So say, for example, you you're gonna go do something that's not normal for yourself. Now, in your humanly, you've pumped yourself up, you're gonna get excited about going and doing it like when we went scuba diving.
SPEAKER_02:Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_00:When we learned to scuba dive. Everybody was telling us, Oh, you shouldn't do that. You're too old, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. All that stuff, right?
SPEAKER_03:Oh, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:So, but inside my back of my mind, I was, you know, my inner, my inner voice was saying, Are you too old for this? Because we have taught ourselves to not believe in what our human is doing.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And so that's our inner self. That's that conversation that AI is having back and forth on the screen that you see.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:You're doing that within yourself. The difference is AI doesn't have the negativity within it. Our subconscious thoughts, which is our coding, our belief system, does.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, definitely. And that's what Especially if you've not done any kind of homework or any kind of training to reprogram that part of you.
SPEAKER_01:Right.
SPEAKER_03:And that's what uh that's what we mean by taking time to hone that skill of changing your perspective.
SPEAKER_01:Right.
SPEAKER_03:You know, whenever I say, if you can get to a place where whatever this contrast is that you're experiencing is not happening to you, it's happening for you. Right. And you change your perspective to uh a curious, inquisitive, uh, I'm okay, everything's okay. I'm just curious to see what this is all about, it'll change your whole world, honestly. And when you stop allowing that negative talk go on, right, at first it'll still sound loud, but the less and less that you allow it to be, I'm talking about that inner voice that wants to be negative or whatever, yeah. The more you tell it to shut the fuck up, right? The quieter it gets. Correct. And the more you're aware that it's happening, whenever you have uh a comment that's made of, oh, you're too old, you can't do that. As soon as you catch yourself doing it and you reframe that statement of age has nothing to do with it, I can do anything I set my mind to do.
SPEAKER_00:Right.
SPEAKER_03:And I uh can, will, and have already accomplished this.
SPEAKER_00:Well, you know, that's where humans a lot of times when they think of something or they have an idea to do things, that inner voice stops them from doing it. You know, like we had a conversation.
SPEAKER_03:But what I was saying is when you begin to retrain the habit, as soon as you catch it, reframe it, right, that will become your new way of thinking, and the negative commentary will eventually just go quiet and then go dormant.
SPEAKER_00:Correct. And that's the that that's you know what I was trying to to get to is when we have an idea or a thought, you know, that inner voice will come in and say negative. Like we had a conversation not very long ago with one of our kids about changing jobs.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And his human, he's like, Oh yeah, I want to do it. But his that inner voice was saying, Oh my god, this is changing jobs. I mean, what if it's not fun? They're going through all this negative thoughts.
SPEAKER_05:Right.
SPEAKER_00:That's your inner coding. Now the difference between the AI and the humans are this is the AI take their thoughts, their inner voice and their human voice, AI, a K A, when they communicate, they display their answer on the screen.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:That's that communication between your conscious and subconscious thought communicating, and now you're relaying it humanly, which is the third part of this scenario. Because when your inner voice communicates with your conscious voice, and then you talk back and forth, and then you come you come to a decision about something, then you'll you say it out loud, okay, I'm gonna do this. And that's where a lot of people get caught up in their own life, like changing jobs, changing career, taking a chance for once in your life, doing something different. Like I would have loved for one moment if somebody would have told me earlier in my life, hey, go out and take a chance for once.
SPEAKER_05:Right.
SPEAKER_00:Instead, I was caught in the routine of daily living. You know, and luckily the conversation I'm talking about is our son, and now he's loving it. Right, you know, yeah, he's making good money, he's doing good things, he's he loves his co-workers, and uh there is a it's got a little bit of high stress sometimes when they do rollouts, but other than that, he seems he told me that when he was when he was down in December that he just loved it. Yeah, he's love he's loving it.
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_00:As a matter of fact, he's thinking about going back and get his master's degree.
SPEAKER_03:Right, yeah, yeah. Cause when he was down here several years ago, he was in that kind of turmoil space. Yeah, he was a phlebotomist, he hated his job, yeah, he wanted something different, but he didn't have any like formal training to be in IT or coding or any of that. And we talked him through that. And so essentially what he did was he updated his resume, put himself out there in the area of his passion, and then got himself registered in school.
SPEAKER_00:And got the job before he even before his very first uh class started, that's right.
SPEAKER_03:And they did on-the-job training.
SPEAKER_00:Yep.
SPEAKER_03:And if he had not put himself out there, right, he would have never got the job. Right. And if he hadn't put himself out there and went ahead and registered for school, yeah, and just taken one baby step at a time, one class at a time, because he was worried about okay, how am I gonna pay for it and all this blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
SPEAKER_00:All the negative all that negative voice.
SPEAKER_03:And what, you know, like one of the things I taught him was, okay, well, listen, do this. You don't have to pay anything to go register. You don't even have to sign up for classes if you don't want to.
SPEAKER_01:Right.
SPEAKER_03:Go register for class, make a decision on what school you would go to if you had all the money in the world, and go register as a new student.
SPEAKER_00:Yep, and he just graduated last November.
SPEAKER_03:Digest and then take the next baby step. And next thing you know, we're getting communication from him that he finally signed up for a class and talked to the counselor, and then the next thing you know, he's got his whole class structure with several classes and a syllabus.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, all science.
SPEAKER_03:And, you know, a couple of years later, we graduated in November with his bachelor's degree.
SPEAKER_00:In in computer sciences.
SPEAKER_03:That's right.
SPEAKER_00:And here's another part that happened. That's how it works. I agree. And this is another another example that I, you know, that I handled a few, probably about a year ago, when uh one of our former former supervisors came to me about a financial investment that one of his family members or something was asking him to buy into. And I was like, Well, do you think it's a good idea? He's like, Oh, I think it's an awesome idea. Do I think it's do you think it's gonna work? Yeah, then why are you why are you asking me about it? Well, you have a lot of business sense. Okay. But you feel that you feel good about it and you're asking the question, but what what's holding you back? Is it is it a lot of money? Oh no, it's like 20 grand.
SPEAKER_03:Right. What's causing you to ask the question from somebody else?
SPEAKER_00:Right. And so why are you coming to me when you should be you know, going through your coding? Right. And asking your inner voice, because I'm like, I'm like, if it's everything that you're saying it is, uh, and that and you're asking sitting there asking me, then something is telling me that you think you need to do it. You're just wanting for somebody to reinforce and validate your your thoughts.
SPEAKER_03:And and so what is in your belief, aka inner coding, right, that makes you require uh external source to validate what you already know to be right or true for you.
SPEAKER_00:And so I then I find out a couple like uh six or eight weeks later that he did it, and and believe it or not, I seen on Facebook where that company just exited. They sold. And so his money probably who knows, eight times. I have no idea.
SPEAKER_05:Right.
SPEAKER_00:Because he they sold the company. Yeah. Somebody bought it out. So it's such a great idea within a year that it grew, got big, and sold.
SPEAKER_05:Right, right.
SPEAKER_00:And that that's what it that's the kind of stuff that people go through constantly with in their own mind is they battle, they know something's right. Yeah, but that inner belief system, that inner voice or their coding, aka, the communication between the two voices is muddied by negativity or previous experience or whatever. And you know, anybody uh that knows anything about conscious mindset, your subconscious mind is lazy, and when you're trying to bring something into it that's gonna make it have to work, it doesn't like it. And so you have to retrain it, you have to read you know, redo beliefs and you have to make sure that you're living the human experience and take the chance. If you had that thought in your mind, follow the human experience because the human experience, that's what we're here for.
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_00:You know, we're only here for so many years on this planet in this form. And trust yourself, trust your inner human self. Yeah, you should look at your beliefs.
SPEAKER_03:You don't need to be going outside of you if you feel like this is right for you, whatever it is.
SPEAKER_00:Right. I agree, 100%.
SPEAKER_03:And if you're uncertain or unclear about what the next level steps are, ask the question. Yep. Your higher self, your intuition is always standing by waiting to give you the information. You just gotta ask for it.
SPEAKER_00:Correct.
SPEAKER_03:That's very simple, and then listen for the answer.
SPEAKER_00:That's correct, 100%. Because I see so many people in our and that we have uh talked to in our lives and people I've known in my life, that they don't do the things that they want to do because they have this inner belief system. Like, for example, a friend of mine, his his when I was growing up, um, his dad owned a huge rodeo company. It was in the bull business for years. They made a ton of money doing it.
SPEAKER_03:Not to be confused with the bullshit business.
SPEAKER_00:No, well, it is kind of the bullshit business, but but and his dad was wanting to retire and he and his dad was wanting him to take it over, but he did not want to do it. He wanted to go, he he wanted to go be a uh, what do you call that when you like go to Egypt and you find things, uh archaeologists archaeologist, yeah. He wanted to be an archaeologist. And so I remember when he was battling with it and he ended up not going to college. He actually stayed there and I asked him, like, what why? Why are you gonna get why are you stuck? And he said, Well, that's what is expected of me.
unknown:Oh.
SPEAKER_00:And so that's another that's another level of this or another layer of this onion that human experience gets halted because of expectations, patterns, and beliefs.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah. I mean, and it can happen very easily.
SPEAKER_00:Right.
SPEAKER_03:You know, I I had uh a moment that I experienced kind of that same scenario in my in my journey of you know, my dad always wanted to be a court reporter.
SPEAKER_00:He wanted you to be he wanted you to be a court reporter, or he wanted to be. Open your mouth.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, and so he wanted me to go be a court reporter. Yeah, and so we went, he took me on these journeys of going and looking at colleges. At the time we lived in a small, tiny little town in in West Texas. He took me miles away to go look at uh one of the best court reporting colleges up in Corpus Christi, miles and miles away. I'm like, you know, uh I'm I guess I'm a I'm I'm a senior, just started my senior year. And to me, that was like number one, I'm not interested in the topic.
SPEAKER_01:Right, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Number two, you want to drag me halfway across the world, dump me off at some college to fulfill your dream, not even mine.
SPEAKER_00:Yep.
SPEAKER_03:I was like, mm-mm, no way. And then of course he was military, so he you know shoved that plate of nonsense in my face. He had me take the what's it called, the the ASVAB test.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, for the military.
SPEAKER_03:Very young, and just to see where my baseline scores were. Well, they were off the chart. I could be any, I could go in and be anything I wanted to be. So that got him all excited and randy. Yeah. And then so then he started, you know, so then he started pushing that in my face of oh, you can go in as a e whatever and all this Django Lango. And I'm like, listen, I don't like it when you yell in my face. Yeah, and I rebel whenever you try to tell me what to do.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, military.
SPEAKER_03:How do you think I am gonna navigate when some strange idiot goes to yelling in my face? It's not gonna fare well, and I'm probably gonna get kicked out. So we're gonna squash that idea right now. Yeah, but you know, your scores are so off the charts, you could go in literally and be anything you want, and then they'll pay for your school, and then you can retire and you'll be set for life, and just keep trying to shove that spoonful of nonsense down my throat. I was having none of that.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, you see, then that's I was taught by my environment.
SPEAKER_03:So I'm not quite done.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_03:Anyway, so long story short, I went ahead and I went to court reporting school on his behalf. But I did it in Dallas. It was closer to home. Yeah. And I sat there day after day in these classes, bored out of my freaking mind. And I was about six months away, not even that, from fixing to graduate. And I said to myself, I cannot imagine sitting in this boring ass chair, clicking on this machine day in, day out, as my job, as my life. And I was like, absolutely, this is not happening. I am not doing this. So I dropped out of school and went in the direction in the in the midst of doing it, we had to have medical terminology, yeah, anatomy, physiology, and stuff. And that really resonated with me, the medical aspect. So then that's when I diverted and went into the medical world.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:But yeah, I had that same kind of thing of buying into somebody else's construct of what they wanted and following their dream. You were given that story of your friend.
SPEAKER_00:Right. You know, and that's so the that's kind of the same thing because I was trained by my environment. And I heard a lot of times from my mom that people like me don't or people like us don't people like you know, this don't I heard that all the time.
SPEAKER_03:And then fill in the blank.
SPEAKER_00:And then fill in the blank.
SPEAKER_03:People like us don't go to school, people don't go to college.
SPEAKER_00:People like this aren't millionaires, people like us aren't blah blah blah blah. You know, all the negative comments that came out. Right. And they come out a lot growing up, and I was taught more by my environment because I actually started believing that stuff. And that's where, you know, the because you you end up you have an assumption of who you are when you become an adult, and then when you go into the world, this assumption becomes belief.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And that's one of the hardest parts to recode and retrain. And you have to do it, otherwise you will end up in places you don't want to be. Like I did.
SPEAKER_03:Like dark alleys in the garbage can.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, or behind bars or whatever. And so retraining that programming is just as easy as training AI. AI is not hard.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:AI is not hard. Like we're doing the app, we have to put AI in it, and they're training, literally training the training the code. And so they put the code in, which doesn't eliminate jobs, by the way. Everybody seems to think they're gonna, you know, AI is gonna take jobs away.
SPEAKER_03:Right. It accentuates them.
SPEAKER_00:And and and it it it will take some jobs away, but it's gonna create more jobs than it takes away. And that's where a lot of people will get wrong. But anyway, so you you know, they're coding the app. We have to give them information they they are training the the coding in it.
SPEAKER_05:Right.
SPEAKER_00:And that's what you have to do with yourself.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Is you have to train your coding, you have to train your belief system.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And otherwise you will continue to run the same rut that you've ran.
SPEAKER_04:That's right.
SPEAKER_00:Because you can ask you go ask Chat GPT today one question, ask them the same question tomorrow, ask them the same question the next day, every day they're gonna have a different answer.
SPEAKER_03:Especially if you tell them to become something before you ask the question.
SPEAKER_00:That's right. That's right. And it's gonna g because it's gonna continue. Like if you don't tell it to do something, if you don't prompt it first, and you ask it the question, it's gonna give you an answer. If you go tomorrow and you ask it a question, ask it the same question that you asked the day before, it's gonna give you a different answer. Because you're training it. It's gonna tell you a different answer until you say, Oh, that's right, or you engage in that answer.
SPEAKER_04:Right.
SPEAKER_00:Your subconscious mind will do the same thing.
SPEAKER_04:That's right.
SPEAKER_00:If you do this, if you go in the same direction. You ask your subconscious mind or your belief system the same question every day. It's going to give you a different answer until you train it to do something else.
SPEAKER_03:That's right. Because it's working on the old beliefs. Programming, the old beliefs.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, that's correct.
SPEAKER_03:And until you look at those beliefs, you're not going to get a different answer.
SPEAKER_00:You're that is 100%. It's going to be the premature. That's right.
SPEAKER_03:You're not going to get an answer. You'll you may get a different answer, but it won't be an answer that's going to recreate worlds.
SPEAKER_01:Right.
SPEAKER_03:You got to go to the core place of that, just like you do with AI. With AI, you've got to tell it what to become and then ask the question and watch it, the answer change.
SPEAKER_00:Right. Because you and I did this yesterday.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, we did. We tested out the theory. We we played with it a lot. Like you're both.
SPEAKER_00:You prompted yours to do one thing. I prompted my to do one thing. And they both came up with the same answers.
SPEAKER_03:Very similar. Very similar.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, we gave them a little bit of a scenario to start with that was different.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:But other than that, it pretty much came up in the same answer. That's right. And that was yesterday and today. And if you do your subconscious mind that way, what happens?
SPEAKER_03:It changes dramatically.
SPEAKER_00:Dramatically. Totally. 100%.
SPEAKER_03:Absolutely. And that's what we mean by action steps.
SPEAKER_00:Yep.
SPEAKER_03:And diving deep to find the core belief that's actually navigating the reality and sitting with that.
SPEAKER_00:Right.
SPEAKER_03:That's how you do it.
SPEAKER_00:And so, like, I had a co uh a coach in high school that he taught a class called personal development. And in this personal development course, he used to always say that nothing will happen until you believe it will. Nothing will happen until you believe it will.
SPEAKER_04:That's right.
SPEAKER_00:And I mean he would use that in everything. And then the other part of that was is not giving in on yourself and having the resilience of the person of somebody that's going across the desert looking for water. Because when you give up on yourself, you quit training your beliefs.
SPEAKER_04:That's right.
SPEAKER_00:And that was one of the things that that in philosophy, it was basically a philosophy course.
SPEAKER_05:Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_00:Was he would taught that until you believe it, it doesn't come real.
SPEAKER_05:Right.
SPEAKER_00:And how you make it how you you train yourself to believe it is by creating the story differently in your world.
SPEAKER_03:And then taking some sort of action step to make it feel as real as possible.
SPEAKER_00:100% correct. And that's the same thing you do when you prompt AI.
SPEAKER_03:Yep.
SPEAKER_00:And that's kind of where this whole rabbit theory come from today. Because like in my book that I just put it on put on Amazon yesterday that it's not published yet, it's not public yet. But in that, I took that same template of beliefs that I had been giving as a young child, and it put me in places I didn't want to be in.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And so I learned to teach myself different.
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_00:It took me a little while, but I did.
SPEAKER_03:That's right. And that very thing right there is how the Merck Center was created. How and why Lucidium World was created. Because as Generation X, we had to find the breadcrumbs and scope out the information and figure it out along the way on a very lengthy journey.
SPEAKER_01:Correct.
SPEAKER_03:And you and I want to create a journey that's a little more easy for people who want an uh opportunity to change their reality and not have to spend years following the breadcrumbs that are hidden under rocks and on dusty bookshelves and all of that. We want to bring it all together in one location where they have access to try this or try that, or if they find something already that resonates with them, it's right there, ready to go, easy to access, easy to utilize to help get them into a place where they can tell their internal AI what they want to look at, what they want to discover, what they want to be when they grow up, um, you know, whatever that is, and look at those beliefs and be able to reformat them.
SPEAKER_01:Right.
SPEAKER_03:Look at that code and be able to rewrite it and have um, you know, major changes in one's reality and in the way one perceives their reality.
SPEAKER_00:100%.
SPEAKER_03:It's a two-fold thing.
SPEAKER_00:100% agree.
SPEAKER_03:Changing reality is not just taking different action steps and living life differently, it's also how do you perceive the reality that you're in.
SPEAKER_00:You're in. That is that is such a huge part of human life, is your perception is reality.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I would say your perception is at least 50% of it, and then the belief system or code that you have that you're running is the other 50%. You know, in the service industry without one or and the other, and it being a balanced 50-50, right, you are gonna have a wonky experience. You are gonna have uh uh weird reality that you're living in.
SPEAKER_00:100% agree. Because you know, like in the serv in the customer service world, I used to drain people that perception is reality. Because your customers that bring you stuff to you, you may not believe what they say.
unknown:Right.
SPEAKER_00:But you have to put yourself in the other side because you have to realize that in their reality, what they're telling you is truth.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, to them. To them, sure.
SPEAKER_00:Because when you're in the service industry, you have to accept other people's other people's stuff, whether you believe it or not, because their perception is the reality of the situation. Well, that's what you've got to do with your subconscious mind. Your subconscious mind, your belief system, your patterns, your programs, it when you ex just accept it for what it is, like it's a customer service business, you're failing yourself. Because now you're not you're not looking at the belief systems and the patterns behind things that are railroading, basically uh D derailing your your current situation that you want it to be in.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I mean there's a comma there. You're I agree. I agree.
SPEAKER_00:There's a comma there. I was way, I was letting you have the comma.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, thank you.
SPEAKER_00:But you know, then so that's where it's at, is when you just don't question beliefs and you don't question patterns and you don't you don't change your life better, you can sit in the mirror all day long and say stuff to yourself just like you do for AI, and it's gonna give you the these random answers.
SPEAKER_03:Well, and they're gonna feel like a lie.
SPEAKER_00:That's right.
SPEAKER_03:That feels like a lie. Right. And it's not gonna really get you anywhere. Uh, and so you gotta step back and you gotta look at your routine, your process, whatever it looks like, and you've got to decide from there, okay, what is it that I am wanting? What am I truly wanting? And then you dial in, you find out what the beliefs are underlying that simple, what is it that I truly want?
SPEAKER_00:Right.
SPEAKER_03:Modify those beliefs.
SPEAKER_00:And why aren't you there now? That's you need to ask that. Why am I not if this is what I want, why am I not there? Just like you would with AI.
SPEAKER_03:Right. And how do I get there?
SPEAKER_00:How do I get there? Because the here the other part of this I think that I s I want to put in there is what a lot of people don't understand. Is if you were to if you have a friend and you go up on Monday and you ask that friend a question, and again, they give you an answer. If you go on Tuesday and ask that friend the same question, they might answer it the same, they might not.
SPEAKER_05:Right.
SPEAKER_00:But if you go on the third day, they're gonna say, Why are you asking me this?
SPEAKER_03:Right. Why do you keep asking me the same question?
SPEAKER_00:Right. Because and if you keep doing the same thing to your subconscious mind and your belief systems, they're gonna eventually it's just gonna keep giving falling back on history. Because if this person doesn't say, Well, why are you asking me that question? And they just keep giving you different answers until they give you the until you get the question or the answer that you're looking for, which I'll which probably a majority of people do it that way.
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_00:They're gonna keep giving you different answers until they hit the one that you're looking for.
SPEAKER_03:That they're looking for.
SPEAKER_00:That they're looking that or they think that you're looking for. And if you don't address that in your beliefs, patterns, and programs in life, you're not training your coding. Right. That's where I wanted to go with that.
SPEAKER_03:That's my and so just to clarify, if you're going to that friend asking the question every day, you're trying to get them to actually give you the answer that you're truly looking for.
SPEAKER_00:Yes.
SPEAKER_03:And until they give you that answer, you keep asking them the same question.
SPEAKER_01:Right.
SPEAKER_03:Instead of just getting to the point of saying, I want this, this, or this, what do you think of it? If you need some external input, then you just keep asking the same question until that person comes around and finally gives you the answer that you're looking for. And if they don't, then you move on to the next person until you find somebody that will give you the answer that you're looking for. Correct. So if you know that you're looking for a specific answer, then just go with it.
SPEAKER_00:Go with it. Train it.
SPEAKER_03:Unless it's a shitty answer that you're looking for and you're asking people to join you in some scum-filled reality of trauma drama.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I wouldn't want that.
SPEAKER_03:I and you can certainly stay in that trauma loop if that's what you want to live, but I wouldn't recommend it.
SPEAKER_00:That's correct. That is 100% correct. But anyway, so to kind of wrap it up, because this is a this is a very good topic. I think it went really well, by the way. And people have to learn to prompt themselves.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_00:Get up in the morning, prompt yourself what you want your day to look like.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And then believe it, code it. Eventually, you're gonna get into the belief system behind what's copying, you know, keeping you from doing that.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, and until you can, it's it is gonna feel like uh uh untruth. 100% but push yourself to go out and touch it, feel it, taste it, smell it of the reality that you wanna be living.
SPEAKER_01:Right.
SPEAKER_03:Whatever you can do, whatever the smallest little tiny action of that that you can do until the entire belief system reveals itself where you can uh restructure it, dissolve it, change it completely. Because normally people will it'll come up for people in layers because it's easier to deal with.
SPEAKER_01:Yep.
SPEAKER_03:There's not very many people in the world that uh thus the core seed will be handed to them to deal with all at one time because that's kind of a challenging way to deal with your shadow work. Yeah, it leaves you, you know, snot pouring out of your nose, crying on the bathroom floor sometimes. I agree. And so most people don't want to go balls to the walls that people do.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I'm one of those. Yeah, no.
SPEAKER_03:And so it's like, man, just drag that shit out. Let's get it done, get it over with. But not everybody's that way. So I agree. It'll come up little bits at a time. So nicely done, sir.
SPEAKER_00:That was a good one. That was a good uh topic. Yeah anyway. Don't forget about uh my my uh book is gonna be released, I think, on Amazon today called Unlocked. Unlocked for Prison the Purpose is and it's a 30-day challenge. Um or you can go also on Amazon as Jenny's book called Scripted From Within.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And Lucidiumworld.com.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Go on there and subscribe for updates on that, and you can check out the app and see what it's gonna look like because it's gonna be pretty cool.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, so when you subscribe, you're actually putting yourself into the beta testing pool as well, right?
SPEAKER_00:No, not when you subscribe. When you subscribe, you're just gonna get you'll be getting pings and notifications about the progress of the app. But if you want to be in the beta, you have to go to W or HTTPS forward slash or colon forward slash forward slash, you know, the HCPS stuff. It's called a URL. You're gonna go to app.themerchcenters.org forward slash early dash bird dash onboarding. Okay. Or you can get it through the website.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, I'll put that down in the description so that people have it and I'll make a link so all you have to do is just tap on it and it'll send you over.
SPEAKER_00:And the the website for the app is www.lucidiumworld.com.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. I'll add that as well.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. And so if you want to be a part of it, hey, it's growing quickly. We've already we have joined join uh jumped three hundred and thirty followers to or I'm I'd say no, we have jumped almost two hundred followers today.
SPEAKER_04:On Instagram.
SPEAKER_00:On Instagram, nice, and so that's because the word's coming out and the marketing company is doing their work. Yeah, yeah. And so, and the beta is limited. So if you want to be a part of it, get signed up.
SPEAKER_03:Nice, nice, nice.
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SPEAKER_03:Of course.
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