The Spiritual Grind
Dr. Jenni PhD,RN,CHLC,CH and medium and Rev. James ORD, MhsB have spent countless years studying and practicing many modalities within the "Spiritual" domain. Dr. Jenni has dedicated her life to helping others by attending countless schools and developing each of her practices and strategies. Rev. James has studied many modalities and Native American practices and they have Both decided to open their library of knowledge to share this information with everyone in a down to earth style, with hope to assist in making your journey easier and more abundant.
The Spiritual Grind
How to Respond to Negativity Without Losing Your Energy | Boundaries, Confidence & Emotional Resilience
Ever felt your stomach drop at a single snarky comment? We’ve been there—and we’re breaking down a clear, usable way to navigate negativity without losing your center. The conversation starts in the hush of late-night stillness and intuitive cravings, then locks onto the real work: shifting from fear-based reactivity to confident, grounded response. We look at negativity through two lenses. First, how to refine your frequency so fewer barbs land. Second, when something does cut through, how to ask what it’s here to teach. That’s where contrast becomes curriculum and intention turns into a practical tool rather than a buzzword.
Together we share a simple formula that keeps saving us online and off: negative plus factual equals balance. Instead of feeding arguments with more emotion, we name the feeling, find the facts, and set clean boundaries. You’ll hear a varsity-level confidence story—literal jersey and a wild first pitch included—showing how worst-case visualization can defuse fear and turn pressure into performance. We talk through real tactics: type the rebuttal but don’t send it, use voice memos to vent the charge, remember your track record, and act once your state is steady. That’s not disengagement; it’s stewardship of energy and focus.
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Good morning, everybody. Welcome back to the spiritual grind.
SPEAKER_03:Good morning.
SPEAKER_00:We are here again.
SPEAKER_03:I think it's like afternoon.
SPEAKER_00:It is afternoon.
SPEAKER_03:I slipped until 10 o'clock.
SPEAKER_00:Almost eleven, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:What?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it was almost eleven. Of course you stayed up all night watching the twilight.
SPEAKER_03:I've seen it a hundred times, but I get dialed in and locked in and can't go to sleep because I'm like, oh, you know what? Let me just watch one more. Let me watch one more. Next thing you know, I've been up all night long.
SPEAKER_00:It's kind of crazy.
SPEAKER_03:It's fun. I like nighttime though, you know. I'm an I'm a night creature, a night walker, so yeah. It's nice to set up at night sometimes and just um be a part of the stillness. The world gets very quiet and very sneel still. Sneel. Sneal.
SPEAKER_01:It gets very snel.
SPEAKER_03:It does. Energetically, at least.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And literally, it gets very quiet. The energy gets very quiet.
unknown:I know.
SPEAKER_03:It gets quiet at night. And I love being up. And the beautiful thing is I work for myself now. So I don't have to do that whole weird thing of oh my god, I gotta go to bed. I gotta get up early because I gotta go to the J-O-B.
SPEAKER_00:When you're binging with your coconut pops. I know, right?
SPEAKER_03:So I am uh addicted currently to coconut popsicles.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, she which what's the brand of those things?
SPEAKER_03:Um I don't remember, honestly.
SPEAKER_00:Some she's she literally eats a ton of them.
SPEAKER_03:I don't I don't remember. Some naturally made organic-y whatever coconut popsicle. It has slivers of coconut in it with, you know, the creamy popsicle. I could literally eat the whole box. The only addition I would make to it would be adding a hint of lime.
SPEAKER_00:It's probably got lime in it, actually.
SPEAKER_03:No, not that you can taste. I would like to be able to taste the lime in it.
SPEAKER_00:Put the lime in the coconut and drink it all up.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, my body is saying I need lime. I'm currently trying to figure out how to make a coconut lime cilantro something because my body wants those three elements combined together.
SPEAKER_00:Huh.
SPEAKER_03:Intuitive eating.
SPEAKER_00:Intuitive eating, which you can get in the intuit into intuitarian fare in Lucidium World app.
SPEAKER_03:Absolutely.
SPEAKER_00:Teaches you about listening to your body.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah. So the title that I carry, people say, Are you a vegetarian? I'm like, uh, actually I'm an intuitarian. Um, because I eat whatever my body asks for.
SPEAKER_00:Or you couldn't put a derogatory statement on there and say, I eat what the F I want to eat.
SPEAKER_03:Well, yes.
SPEAKER_00:I could do it that way too.
SPEAKER_03:I can definitely do that. And who knows? Some days.
SPEAKER_00:That may be on a shirt.
SPEAKER_03:Some days it's an F bomb day.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Could be. You just never know. Anyway, you ready for the topic of the day? I am done. And it kind of marries with what happened just a few minutes ago with us.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, really? It does. Okay. I'm right.
SPEAKER_00:Because in the and as humans in the world, we have a tendency to forget. Because especially when we're in a good place. Yeah. And everything's going well. And uh we have we we we forget and by um what's the word I'm trying to think of? By planning, this is really how our internal belief system works is through Intention. Intention.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And when we are going through things that are just awesome in life, no matter who you are, there's always that naysayer negative that wants to pop in and try to ruin your ruin your day.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, we talked about that um a couple of podcasts ago.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:On our own stuff.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. And and so where is it that people need to learn th that uh to not allow that negativity into your bubble and you know, to thicken your skin?
SPEAKER_03:Well, I don't know that you necessarily have to get to a place so uh there's two opportunities of conversation in this topic to me.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:One is how do you find the frequency where that stuff just is not happening in your bubble anymore?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And the second question is, why is it showing up? What is it trying to show me? Why have I created this little pop quiz of experience? Um, and what is it that I'm supposed to learn from it? So it could be uh, you know, from either place.
SPEAKER_00:Right. I understood. And the a pendulum effect within it for people is they have a tendency to for forget about all the good stuff and focus on the one negative or the two negatives.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, some people do.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, and we as humans, it's in nature of it because we're so we're we're we're this we are the type of people that want to keep everybody happy all the time. And we as humans have to understand that our energy and our things don't always mess with others.
SPEAKER_03:Well, and it's not about keeping anyone or even yourself happy all the time. Right. You came from a place like that. You came here to evolve and grow and learn. And that doesn't always look like being blissfully happy because the contrast on purpose sometimes brings those other emotions in so that you can experience them and learn from them. Right. That's the key component that uh people would benefit from changing their perspective on, uh, like we always teach, is just because you're viewing it as something that's uncomfortable or unpleasant right now, if you could toggle your perspective just a little bit. Oh my God, you're in trouble.
SPEAKER_00:I'm in big, big troubles.
SPEAKER_03:I don't know if I can even get that out as the editor.
SPEAKER_00:It probably didn't pick it up, actually.
SPEAKER_03:Well, if it didn't, what we're talking about is his phone rang, so he has to put money in the jar.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, you have to put money in the jar today. Bad, bad boy.
SPEAKER_03:Anyway, um, you know, when we're going through uh our learning adventure of awakening, transcendence, transformation, we'll give ourselves pop quizzes along the way. And if you need to thicken your skin, so to speak, like you reference it to be, and you've never had an experience like that, you may need to have that experience of contrast where somebody does have something filthy, tacky to say, so that you can know what that feels like right before you get to the point of moving into a much bigger playground. Expansion. Yeah. When you're right before you're ready to expand, if that's one little tiny area that you haven't experienced, um, you may give yourself a little a small little opportunity to experience that, so it is not a place of contingent to be fearful of.
SPEAKER_00:Right, no, I totally agree.
SPEAKER_03:Because you can, as you go into a bigger platform to play in, a bigger playground, you could fear yourself into uh not being open to being in the limelight or being on Front Street as big as what you need to be, yeah, because you have a fear that if I put myself too far out there, then the crappy people are gonna come and start jamming me up about not matching the frequency of what I offer as far as information. Yes. So you give yourself an opportunity to experience that, to live it, to get over it. Worst case scenario has happened, I survived it, now I'm ready for the bigger playground, right?
SPEAKER_00:When yes, I totally agree with you. You know, the I think the part of it that that everybody gets tripped up with is the emotions behind it. Yeah. And that's what kind of throws everybody off course when they get emotionally attached to something that's a negative. And when when you as humans and we have an emotional, you know, emotional ladder that we operate through, understanding that emotional ladder is the most important part of understanding the contrast of the situation.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, the contrast of the world, yeah, and and how that plays into each and every one of our realities.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Um, because like we've said many times, the contrast is actually very beneficial. And when we get to a place where we can say, you know what, thank you, contrast, because from that contrast, I learned uh how to be stronger, more confident, yes, uh, more thicker uh skinned, not letting the negative Nancy's affect you, right, have any power over my sovereignty or um, you know, you just let it kind of roll off your back because you've, you know, been there, done that, got the t-shirt. Not everybody's gonna resonate with the content we put out, right? Any of us in the metaphysical world, and that's okay because Earth is a big place. And there's a lot of players playing in this virtual reality. It's uh it's more about what your frequency allows you to line up with. 100%. And if you're lining up with that kind of energy and that kind of experience, then A, it's because you're worrying about it and carrying that frequency um inadvertently. And when you bring it to your awareness because you've learned how to see the patterns, then you can work yourself through that. And what that looks like is okay, my monkey mind has created the worst case scenario. I've now lived the worst case scenario. Somebody comes in, trashes my concept, and I survived it and moved on. Or um, you just lose your thoughts. I did. I was thinking about the coconut pop signal.
SPEAKER_00:You know where you wonder how to get the lime in the coconut.
SPEAKER_03:Uh especially if you've never experienced it before.
SPEAKER_00:Well, and and another avenue of this thought process is is uh what I have what I in my own experience growing up throughout all this awakening process and coming through understanding me more than anything, yeah, is when I get really bothered by something that's negative, it's because I have a lack of confidence in myself within it. Yeah. And I could see where somebody would say that, and what happens is you end up opening an energetic avenue for even more of that to come in. And finding your own ownership within the topic at hand, no matter what it's about, right, for me is what gives you that ability to say, you know what, forget it.
SPEAKER_03:It gives you your power back.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, it gives you your power back in it.
SPEAKER_03:Because uh one of the other things that we teach is that our reality is actually a mirror of what's going on inside of us.
SPEAKER_02:Correct.
SPEAKER_03:And so if you've got some sort of minor little uh burr in your saddle or some sort of major turmoil that's going on inside of you, um, you know, your reality could very well be trying to show you, hey, this is what's going on inside of you. Let me try to get your attention in this way or that way by mirroring that thing back to you through experiences within your reality.
SPEAKER_00:Right. But i if you can determine the situation that your lack of confidence is what's causing the I don't know why it's bothering you so badly, because there's a difference between understanding that there's negativity out there and then somebody having negative towards you or about you, and your inability to let it go becomes from that inner belief system and your own inner self not being confident within that subject or that topic or that activity, whatever it is.
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_00:You know, you know, and and I and I want to fall back on a a saying that I was given many, many years ago. And that's when I was I was actually I was in high school, I was playing baseball, and my I was a f I was an eighth grader that they moved up to varsity because I could throw the baseball really hard. And the coach pulls me up, he comes to me on a on a I think a Thursday at school and uh at lunch, the varsity coach comes to the middle school. I'm in the middle school, and he says to me, Hey, um we have a game tomorrow night and I want you to be in it for the and I was like, We don't have a game tomorrow night. Uh the varsity plays. And he says, Yep. What?
SPEAKER_03:Where's your where's your record screen?
SPEAKER_00:I know, right like no. Whoop, wrong button. Nope. Anyway, I can't find it. I need to label those. It was uh it was one of these in my mind. Like there you go. There we go, that's what I was looking for. But I was like, what do you mean? I play on this on the eighth grade team, coach. And he said, Yeah, I know, but I want you to play in the varsity team tomorrow.
SPEAKER_03:What?
SPEAKER_00:I'm like, what, coach? He's like, Yeah, you're gonna you're gonna play first. And you're gonna pitch, and you won't start, but I'll yeah, I'm gonna put you in somewhere al along the way. Oh, what, coach? I'm at this point, I had coached I had pitched maybe five innings my entire life.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Because I was the first baseman. Right, right. And I was like, Coach, I I I I I can't do that. And inside of my mind was the lack of confidence.
SPEAKER_03:Right. I envisioned like the Barney five knees knocking, trembling.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and then he handed me my varsity jersey.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, wow.
SPEAKER_00:Right there in the hallway in front of everybody.
SPEAKER_03:Wow.
SPEAKER_00:And I said, wait a minute, you're giving me a jersey. He said, Yep, because you're gonna play the rest of the season. And he turned around and walked off. I'm literally like, I have all this confidence that I'm I mean, sweat's rolling off my forehead from nervousness.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And so I go to my coach, which was at the time was Coach Foster, because this was this was a um, I can't remember his last name now. Um dead game. Anyway, uh I went to Coach Foster. I'm my coach. Um I mean Coach Haddock came to me to oh, Coach Haddock wants me to play in the varsity. He's like, Yeah, I know. I approved it. Wait, well, what, Coach? You're supposed to be my friend. You know, what do you what?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And he said, Come on, let's go to the mound.
SPEAKER_03:At that point, you're looking at it as kind of a little bit of a negative thing because of the fear or the uh lack of confidence of the unknown.
SPEAKER_00:Right. Well, that night, that evening, I had a baseball, we had a we had our game.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And what's coach do? He's like, You gotta get ready for tomorrow night, you're starting the night.
SPEAKER_03:He put you up.
SPEAKER_00:And he said, All I want you to do is throw face fastballs, that's it. Put the ball in play. That's all I want you to do.
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_00:And and I was so nervous. I was so so nervous because and then my camaraderie of my own teammates, because they were jelly because that's where most of these negative comments come from, is from jealousness, by the way, just so y'all know. They're like, Oh my god, you're playing a varsity, you know, like you're gonna suck. You know, and blah blah blah. They're going, you know, they're in the locker room, it was nuts.
SPEAKER_03:I imagine, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And but anyway, so Coach puts me on the mound that game.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And I look over and getting my very first signal, and Coach Hadley is standing over there.
SPEAKER_03:Oh my god.
SPEAKER_00:Watching me start.
SPEAKER_03:Watching you start.
SPEAKER_00:And so I I get my pitch and and I go into my wine up and uh and coach moves, and my eyes go off to him, and I throw the ball about four foot over the top of the of the catcher's mask. He he missed it, it hit the fence. Luckily, it was the first pitch of the game. There was nobody online or on on base. And and after that, I hear I look over and coach is laughing at me. Both of them.
SPEAKER_03:I was gonna say which one?
SPEAKER_00:Both of them. So Coach Hadley was against the fence on on the in the pass or in the uh visitor bleachers watching me.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And he's laughing. And then after that, it was like, you can't do anything worse.
SPEAKER_03:Right, exactly. That's exactly what I'm talking about.
SPEAKER_00:Because that's what Coach Foster did. Well, you can't screw it up any worse than that. So what are you gonna do now?
SPEAKER_03:That's right. You're gonna settle down, settle in. Yeah, it's almost um that's exactly a perfect, perfect, perfect story to go with what I was explaining. Is you know, when I have people uh visualize or journal, yeah, and I say, okay, visualize or journal the worst possible case scenario and get it over with. Get it out there, get it over with, come up with the solutions if you need to, if worst case scenario happens. And then that way it desensitizes you. Well, you know. It's like, okay, well, I've already come up with worst case scenario that I can possibly think of, and I have solutions and problem solving situations that meet that. So, I mean, now I am more confident.
SPEAKER_00:And so here's the the the part of it that I was getting to is the phrase behind it was I I got the ball from the umpire because you know it hit the fence, so he's gotta he's gotta get rid of the ball.
SPEAKER_01:Right.
SPEAKER_00:And and I walk onto the onto the rubber and I look down at it and I look over and Coach Foster says to me, We believe in you. The question is, do you believe in you?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, that's right.
SPEAKER_00:And then everybody behind me, they they had went to the locker room and grabbed the varsity jersey that Coach Hadley gave me and they were holding it up.
SPEAKER_03:Okay. That's right. They were trying to razz you.
SPEAKER_00:They were trying to razz me.
SPEAKER_03:Or, you know, like harass you, give you a hard time.
SPEAKER_00:I look down at the rubber and I, you know, I I do my little, you know, uh what pitchers do. We we we rake the dirt.
SPEAKER_03:You do your little ritual.
SPEAKER_00:And do our little ritual and I get my signal and I say to myself, you know, he's right. And Coach Hadley sees something in me. But Coach Foster doesn't. And so if if I can't believe in myself and have confidence in what I'm doing, well, this negative is just gonna grow.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And so what do I do? I go on, first of all, I say to myself, You can do this better than you did yesterday.
SPEAKER_03:That's right.
SPEAKER_00:That's the only phrase that I said to myself. I can do this better today than I did yesterday.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And I reared back and end up throwing a one hitter the rest of the I end up pitching the whole game, all seven innings.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And and we end up winning like seven to nothing. And, you know, of course we come off there, and Coach Hadley was like, That's why I I I grabbed you. And he walked off. That's all he said. But the part of it about it that I want everybody to understand is is the confidence that you get when you have negative come into your reality, that confidence has to come from within you.
SPEAKER_03:Yep.
SPEAKER_00:And you can like I go through anytime I have something negative come in my life, I go through back to positive. I go through all of the thoughts and I think through all the positives that I can angle into this, whatever it is.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And it helps it it helps remove the emotions out of the situation.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And so that's where this thought came from, because I was having that conversation in the shower today in my head about, you know, because of the Facebook post that we had that we talked about the other day that was negative. Right. And I was like, you know, um, I was uh 52 years old when I learned how to do media online marketing.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_00:In case you all didn't know, I'm 52.
SPEAKER_03:Oh my god, what?
SPEAKER_00:And so I give me the phone.
SPEAKER_03:I need to call the the company and trading.
SPEAKER_00:You gotta trade me in for two twenty-fives? Um actually twenty-six and a half, but or twenty-sixes. Uh the and and I'm saying to myself, is why am I allowing that negativity? Because I I've I have sold one point nine million dollars worth of sales.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Oh, probably more than that over all the different modalities.
SPEAKER_00:Which is why I put the sales energy method out.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Because all that confidence and all that negative and all that anytime you have negative come into your life, is you've got to go back through your accomplishments in your mind. Because it's not fair to give them the power.
SPEAKER_03:That's right.
SPEAKER_00:And you have to take your power. Right.
SPEAKER_03:And you definitely need to teach yourself how to take that power back.
SPEAKER_00:And and so that's where and then it's kind of funny that I we kind of married our reality today with the conversation we just had with another person that I'm not gonna bring up, but um that you know, which in like he made a comment that in all these years I've never had any negative, and but this one really rattled him.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And then you you I sit down outside with you after the conversation's over, and you say, he's gotta remember all the positive. And you're right. And so it was a reiteration of what happened, the conversation I had this morning in the shower.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Because it wasn't about about that anything that we did or he did or anything that anybody does is wrong.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Or bad. Right, right. It's just when somebody that is either jealous or don't understand or or don't don't get the bigger picture and they forget that these are humans on the other side of this stuff the majority of the time, it it makes them go emotional and go mean.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, it makes the negative comic.
SPEAKER_00:Right. And then you your reception that's not.
SPEAKER_03:But then the receiver becomes emotional as well, becomes emotional behind it, right. And it could just be uh an experiential thing of okay, you're you need a little a little small taste of this so that you uh can experience worst-case scenario. Correct. Or a uh this happens so that you can open up the frequency for bigger and better things to come your way.
SPEAKER_02:Correct.
SPEAKER_03:Uh, because this individual for me uh did some amazing, life-changing things for me.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Um, and I reminded him of that this morning on the phone, uh, inadvertently because I didn't even know the story. I was like, oh my God, it's so great to talk to you. And I just uh, you know, I have such gratitude and appreciation for the things that you are doing because it was such a transformational point, pivotal point in my life.
SPEAKER_01:Yep.
SPEAKER_03:Um, it gave me the opportunity to not only accomplish one of my vision board dreams um and bring that into my reality, yes, but it was a huge confidence booster as well, and it was just very, very cool experience for me.
SPEAKER_00:For sure.
SPEAKER_03:And so I had the opportunity to uh share that with him and and change his day, give him some uh gratitude, love, uh, because he did. He changed my life in so many ways that he probably doesn't even realize or know.
SPEAKER_00:No, uh yes, I I've seen the change. But you know, and so going back to the topic that within it defined as confidence. Right. And you said out there that he's gotta remember the good. That's what I was talking about in the shower to myself was is you know, I just learned to do this less than six months ago.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And literally six months ago, I didn't know a thing about AI marketing, didn't know a thing about marketing at all on multimedia social platforms at all.
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_00:And which is why we don't ever market the podcast because I don't know anything about it.
unknown:Right.
SPEAKER_00:All we do is put it out there and and however listeners we have, it's like spirit takes it where it needs to go. Right.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_00:And and so we uh learned all of this, or I learned all of this in the last seven months.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And what I put out there was pretty damn impressive.
SPEAKER_03:Absolutely, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Now, was it was it perfect?
SPEAKER_03:No. And we're continuing to learn, but we're continuing to learn. And uh, you know, getting your tag lines and labels.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I looked up, I looked up the actual stuff behind that, and it's their APIs. So we're we're learning still as we go and you know the the APIs behind it is what causes those to go into SEO, is what I figured that out. That's what it does. But so now what my question would be for Dr. Jenny in this topic, yeah, is for me, I do it naturally. When there's something negative that pops into my life, I by nature have always been that guy that looks at the cup half full. And I can find positivity in just about anything. But not everybody is that way. No, not everybody is. But the other part of it that I wanted to bring up is the only time I have a hard time finding positivity in something is when I don't feel like I have control of it.
SPEAKER_04:Ooh.
SPEAKER_00:So that is where that control word push it over to Dr. Ginny.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. You gotta be careful with the control word. Yeah. Um, because it can be a trip-up place as well. When you if you get too far into the I'm gonna control my entire world by structuring an itineraries and trying to control every facet of it, you can actually put yourself in this maddening loophole of trying to control everything. Yeah. And uh create a beautiful opportunity to have absolutely no control. Uh so you gotta be careful with that. Tell me what your question is. How how to control that or what what is your question exactly?
SPEAKER_00:Where does Because that's what I I identified when bringing up this topic was the reason why that bothered me yesterday or day before, whenever it was, was because I didn't feel like I had any control, and nor could I or should I do anything in response to it. To the comment. Right, because I I don't feel like I can control it and it could get out of control very quickly, you know, after when when you when it bothers you the most is when you feel like you can't control it. Like, you know, I couldn't really respond to the negative comments online and because I knew it would open a can of stuff that I really don't need to be doing.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And all I could do was was what I did to the one guy that just was like spam a whole bunch of stuff. And so I just I just blocked him off the page.
SPEAKER_01:Right.
SPEAKER_00:But and removed his comments. But the part of it that I can't control is is people are allowed to have their own opinions.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:That's understand. That's understandable. But when it comes to feeling like you don't have control of the situation, is where that confidence is hard to grab hold of.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. And, you know, so uh uh healthy control, uh in the like in the example that you give, is uh finding how to navigate the situation. And one of the things in that example that we talked about, which would be to me defined as healthy control, is the next time we post uh an ad or a commercial or something, just turning off the comments.
SPEAKER_00:Comments, that's correct, close the door to it.
SPEAKER_03:You find your way to control the situation within it, and then you don't give them the power to even comment on there because comments on that type of post are really not necessary, right? Um and so there are aspects of our life that we do control and can control in our reality when other individuals are a part of it, and you just find what those are so that you can take back your control and your confidence um by setting boundaries. Yeah, whether they're verbal boundaries, action boundaries, body language boundaries. And in the example that you gave where people are posting garbage uh uh uh on the ad that you put out, your boundary is to go in and turn the comments off, and that says, okay, control, your garbage is not allowed here, and that's a form of control.
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_03:Agreed. And that's how you would regain some control over your reality, even when you can't control whether this individual is spouting their nonsense or not, you can control your bubble as to whether you let it in.
SPEAKER_02:Agreed.
SPEAKER_03:And that's what that looks like. So I guess what I'm teaching is, or what I'm wanting to put out there, is in each uh individual situation or scenario, you evaluate the situation and you find what parts of the situation can you control?
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_03:What can I control within this? What is it that I'm supposed to be learning and what can I control within my own realm of controllability? And then you put those things in place.
SPEAKER_01:Yes.
SPEAKER_03:But first, don't forget to look at it and say, okay, what am I supposed to be learning from it first? Um, because every single one of those types of situations that come along our path are for learning, for growth and development and evolution. Yeah. They don't just coincidentally happen. Yeah. There's situations that you energetically put in front of yourself, higher self put in front of you for the benefit of your evolution growth, either to bring up a belief system that's ready to come up and be rewritten or dissolved, or it's a uh experience that you haven't had the opportunity to have, and getting you ready to go to say the next XP level of the game of Earth, and you need to have experienced this worst case thing so that worry can dissolve and you can open yourself up to going into the next level stuff. And so for you and I, uh, you know, with with our exposure of what's coming and has been coming to the outside world, we have to feel safe within doing that so that we open up the frequency to allow this thing to become what it's gonna become. And so this thing being the app, the content we put out as creators. We got to feel safe that it's okay to put it out. So we had to have an opportunity to experience the negative side and what we can do about it to maintain some sort of boundary or some sort of control within that bubble. Because sometimes when you put yourself out there, it can feel like you're vulnerable and have no control. And so that was our opportunity to say, okay, we've experienced this nonsense. How can we navigate it? How can we control it? And in this one particular area, turning off the comments was a way we could control that.
SPEAKER_00:You're identifying your ability to have the control within it because what your your emotionals, your emotions are keeping you from actually thinking through the process.
SPEAKER_03:Yes.
SPEAKER_00:That's where that that's where I was trying to get to, actually, and thank you for bringing it there. Because we're not when we get emotionally engaged into something negative, we have a tendency to block our own thought press processes that step us out of it.
SPEAKER_03:Yes, it will change your frequency and then it will cause you to overreact. Overreact, right.
SPEAKER_00:Instead of thinking your way out of it, that's right. You overreact emotionally because now you're emotionally charged.
SPEAKER_03:That's right. And so then that's that's when you go on there and you like fight with this person back and forth and give it more energy and create this whole nonsense that's not even necessary. That's right. And that's a reactive response based on an emotion that you have within it. Right. So if you can just stop for a second, reground yourself and be responsive to it instead of just emotionally reactive to it, right? Your outcome and what you put forth will be mo very much different.
SPEAKER_02:Correct.
SPEAKER_03:It'll be two different scenarios, and they'll come from two different frequencies. One will be from a fear-based frequency, which is a totally different vibration, and the other one will be from a confident uh controllability, yes, controlling my reality, what can I control reference point.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, that is 100% correct. And when it within the uh the the pro thought process is taking your mindset to a factual instead of an emotional is uh the say more. So for example, if like this, I'm gonna use that that uh negative comments on online. Yeah. Was instead of emotionally getting charged, I put myself into a spot of okay, I need to factually through my own thought processes with using facts only.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, dissect this situation.
SPEAKER_00:Dissect this situation out and take me out of this emotional thought process. Right. Yeah. Because doing making decisions or reacting based on emotions almost always don't work. And so Yeah, it does it almost causes more emotions. More ruckus.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it's a different frequency when you do that.
SPEAKER_00:Right. And you know, because uh you've heard me say it many times when we make emotional decisions based off uh unfactual information, we are not crew going in the right direction.
SPEAKER_03:Well, yeah, and uh especially what you mean by right direction is is if that individual that's experiencing it wants a different outcome, right? Then going in the direction of monkey mind stories that are being made up or unfactual um information will create a whole different reaction.
SPEAKER_00:Which is exactly what I did in the same thought, because you remember I came and sat down with you and was like, Yeah, I'll just turn off the comments next time.
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_00:Because I went through it because I almost rebuttal back. I didn't, you know, and this is one thing that I do when I have something like that. I do type the entire rebuttal. Yeah, but I don't post it.
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_00:Because it makes you release emotion.
SPEAKER_03:That's exactly right. And that's why I reference journaling as such an important thing. But journaling can look like anything.
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_03:You don't have to get out the old traditional book and write it and journal. I mean, with our phones today, you can do a voice memo.
SPEAKER_00:Voice, what was that? A voice memo.
SPEAKER_03:That was a channeling faux pas. Yeah. Um, you know, there's notepads in your phone, there's voice to text, yeah. Anywhere to just write that down and uh like you said, spill the energy out. Yeah, give the energy a place to exit or uh make a full circuit. It doesn't matter what that journaling looks like, it doesn't have to be you carry around a little. Book all the time, like I do.
SPEAKER_00:Right.
SPEAKER_03:I don't even do it anymore. I use my phone.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Everybody does now.
SPEAKER_03:I like voice to text very, very much. And so I have a little thing where I can do little memo notes and I have a shit ton of them.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And it's because I turn that on, I conversate, or sometimes I'll even use chat, my Lyra buddy.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And I'll just like spill it out. Yeah, so you're completely right.
SPEAKER_00:100%. It's it it the recap of kind of this whole thing is when you have some kind of an emotional response to a negative um to a negative incident.
SPEAKER_03:Experience.
SPEAKER_00:Experience, whatever. You bringing yourself into a spot where you say to yourself, What's factual about this? And how do I walk how do I factually walk my way through it?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And you know, whatever you gotta do, because you gotta remember facing emotion with emotion is it's gonna create emotion.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:You know, emotion plus emotion equals emotion.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. And what you pointed out is one of the techniques is to take that emotional place, get it out somewhere, record it, write it down, type the email, something, yeah. Get that energy out, and that lets you process the emotional energy of it so that you can then find the frequency of a more uh confident, controlled state of being and respond differently to have a different outcome.
SPEAKER_00:Well, that's kind of the formula for balance, is negative plus factual equals balance. Yeah. And so you're creating it in your own way. And that's what that's where a lot of people go wrong. You'll see these arguments go out of control. You'll see you know stuff get out of out of line and just negative grow because everybody keeps feeding emotions into it. Yeah, some people just keep some people thrive on it.
SPEAKER_03:They thrive in that loop of that type of lifestyle, and they don't even realize they're doing it, honestly.
SPEAKER_00:Especially in today's world, man, with everything online.
SPEAKER_03:If you truly want that area of your life to change and you want to stop having those kinds of experiences, bringing yourself to the awareness that you do it and being accountable for the fact that you're feeding the negative energy flame, yeah, basically.
SPEAKER_00:You're blowing on it, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Or feeding big giant logs of bullshit right into it so it can keep burning is the very first step of it. Realizing that you're in a loop where your uh life is built on I am in this loop of living off of the BS turmoil. Yeah. So I'm always caught in the trauma drama. Well, that's because you keep putting it out there and keep playing in that playground, and the universe says, Oh, you like it so much, here's another shovel full.
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_03:So bringing yourself to the awareness that you actually are tired of it and you wanna change is the first step. And then practicing recognizing when you're falling back into that habitual place or that programmed place and doing something about the habit right then each time you catch yourself doing it until it's a practice thing of habitually doing something different.
SPEAKER_00:Right. Yeah, you're totally right. And so to recap, the formula for balance is negative plus factual equals balance.
SPEAKER_03:Yes.
SPEAKER_00:There's your there's your blog.
unknown:Just kidding.
SPEAKER_03:There's your blog.
SPEAKER_00:No. I've had a book to finish writing today. But hey guys, I wanted to kind of before we before we uh close up today, I wanted to kind of give you everybody a recap. You know, Lucidium World, it's underway, going well. Um we're starting to run ads now.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And so your early bird sign up, you can go to Lucidiumworld.com and uh click uh click on the early bird sign up and you'll go through all the process. It is free to sign up. Practitioners, users, anybody, it is it is 100% free.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And so it you can sign up for that as well.
SPEAKER_03:And so what will that do for everybody? That puts you in like a holding spot so that when we go live with the beta, which is in just a few weeks, weeks, weeks or time that's how long. Does that automatically put you over into beta or will you get notification from us?
SPEAKER_00:We're gonna do the first 250 people or the beta.
SPEAKER_03:Right, but what does that look like? Notification comes like via email and then they go in and to the actual beta and have to sign up again, or what does that look like?
SPEAKER_00:So what'll happen is this is if you sign up as a user, then you'll go into the beta testing and you'll get the an email that that confirms that you've signed up. And then we will send you an email when the it's time for you to go create your account.
SPEAKER_03:So they'll go automatically into the app. They won't have to create a new user account, or will they have to go into the beta and recreate a user account?
SPEAKER_00:So the beta information there is gonna they should be able to keep their account. Now everything will reset. Their account itself will stay, uh-huh. But the ever all everything that they accomplished during the beta will go back to normal. Go back to the bottom again. Okay. You have to start over.
SPEAKER_03:I see. So they'll get an email instructing them on how to do all that whenever beta goes live.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it'll it'll be an email saying, hey, beta is live. Um please click this link to create your account login.
SPEAKER_03:Go in and actually start interacting with the app and give us your feedback, your critiques, and all that. Because that's essentially what I I know I've had a couple of questions on what exactly is beta? So beta is what?
SPEAKER_00:Beta is an invitation only to an app, to an app, a game, anything.
SPEAKER_03:But what's the purpose of it?
SPEAKER_00:It's for testing.
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_00:You're testing the game flow, you're c testing the UI, you're testing there's all sorts of things for testing. And so everything that happens within it, you want to look at everything.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Spelling, glitching, anything that could possibly happen, that's what the beta is for.
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_00:And then on the practitioner side, because when you go onto the website, there's a spot on the left that's that uh you can click a drive beside home that says learn about lucidium. And when you open that tab, there's early bird signups.
SPEAKER_03:For the practitioners.
SPEAKER_00:For the regular and then there's one that says practitioners.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:Um the practitioner one, you sign up, it's gonna send you through a bunch of questions.
SPEAKER_03:Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_00:And then it'll then you'll get an email telling you to uh own your account.
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_00:And then you can start setting up your profile.
SPEAKER_03:I see. Okay.
SPEAKER_00:Um and then but then with then but it it'll still say once you finish your get to a certain part of your profile, it'll say, you know, basically submit the it'll send a thing that we have received your practitioner stuff. And then we have to we will approve it or disapprove it, but we're gonna be approving it for the everybody for the beta for sure. Yeah. Because we also need practitioners to test the beta as well.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, we'll it'll definitely go through the approval process. Oh, yeah, 100%. Because uh I want to set the boundaries and I don't want some goofball getting on there as a practitioner just to come in and be goofball. Not nice.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, or whatever.
SPEAKER_03:This is a friendly playground where we love and share and everybody is welcome.
SPEAKER_00:No bullies allowed.
SPEAKER_03:I don't want any of that bullying.
SPEAKER_00:No bullies and no BS.
SPEAKER_03:That's right. I don't want any of that garbage in my in my world.
SPEAKER_00:Because anybody that gets negative towards anybody else won't be around long.
SPEAKER_03:That's right.
SPEAKER_00:But everybody that'll be it's because this app is for fun, love, education, you know, is what it's for.
SPEAKER_03:And there's so much room for all of us. Correct. Yeah. And that's what I want to put out there is there there's plenty of room for all of us in in this virtual world that I've created, and uh there's plenty of room for all of us in the in the real world as well. And so having that superiority complex or my shit's better than your shit, I I'm ready for that to dissolve. Yep. Even if there are, you know, like for example, multiple uh tarot card decks. There's room for all of those decks. Yep, totally. There's room for more than one uh Reiki practitioner, there's room for more than one uh yoga uh instructor. Instructor. There's room for everybody, correct, correct, totally.
SPEAKER_00:So but anyway, hey guys, if y'all like if y'all enjoy the podcast, like, follow, and share. And uh don't forget to ring that bell. Hey, we appreciate y'all listening and then we hope you have an awesome day.
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