The Spiritual Grind

Walk In The Back Door Like You Own The Place

• Dr. Jenni and James • Season 2 • Episode 58

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What if the only thing jamming your progress is the picture in your head of how it “should” go? We start with upbeat news—merch rolling out and our Salty Tarot app pushing through Apple earlier than planned—then pivot into a candid dive on how expectations quietly restrict flow while intentions open doors you didn’t know were there. From the weight of a word like “stress” to the way a single belief can fatigue your body, we unpack why labels get heavy and how unlearning them sets you free.

You’ll hear the wild story of landing a 45-pound catfish on light gear simply because there was no limiting belief to stop the body from doing what it could do. Then, how outside comments later created cramps during a far easier catch. We connect those dots to everyday life: the Jeep dealer you dread revisiting, the bank you expect to deny you, the “broken picker” in dating that keeps choosing the same pattern. The fix isn’t hustle or hope—it’s a clean intention, a blank slate, and the choice to walk in like you belong.

We draw a clear line between expectations and intentions. An expectation scripts the ending and glues emotion to a single outcome. An intention sets direction, invites the best available path, and lets reality surprise you. That shift changes your frequency, your questions, and the response you get from people and places. We share practical resets—rewriting bad experiences, separating identity from old stories, and stepping into rooms as the person you’re becoming, not the past you’re dragging.

If you’re ready to stop looping the same outcomes and start letting life move, this conversation gives you language, mindset, and examples you can use today. Subscribe, share with a friend who needs a reset, and leave a review to tell us: what expectation are you ready to trade for intention?

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SPEAKER_00:

Good morning, everybody. Welcome back to the spiritual grind. Good morning. There's always that awkward silence before she says good morning. It's kind of odd.

SPEAKER_02:

Sometimes. I am weird and it's okay.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Yes.

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And that, ladies and gentlemen, is a t-shirt.

SPEAKER_00:

I think it is a t-shirt.

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Our merch store.

SPEAKER_00:

Merch store, yeah. The salty tarot. Absolutely. Or thesalty tarot.myshopify.com. Or you can go to thesalty tarot.net and click on the store. It'll take you right to it.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, yeah. Getting that inventory built up.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, it's gonna be fun.

SPEAKER_02:

Those clever little t-shirts and puns. They're going in the store.

SPEAKER_00:

And our app is, as we speak, uploading to the app store.

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Yeah, can we get applause?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, we should get an applause for that.

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Applause worthy man.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, the self determined app will be out soon.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, we uh started the download to the iOS platform, right?

SPEAKER_00:

Yesterday.

SPEAKER_02:

Yesterday, and we were 19 hours in counting.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, and it uh I haven't got any notifications today, so I don't know where it is. I haven't got nothing. But the projected date to release for the public is the 27th, I believe, is what Keen said.

SPEAKER_02:

Right. Because you said they have wait so we download it to the iOS platform. We get to use it.

SPEAKER_00:

The Apple store, not iOS platform. It's the it's already on the iOS platform. I gotcha. It just has to go from the iOS platform and AWS to the app store for approval.

SPEAKER_02:

I see. And then they review it and make sure it meets all the criteria.

SPEAKER_00:

It meets all their guidelines. Yeah. Privacy, the security, all that stuff.

SPEAKER_02:

But in the meantime, we get a beta version of it to check for you know different.

SPEAKER_00:

And I think we can allow 20 people, I think is what he said. 10 or 20, I don't remember. We can give access to like 20 people to play with it.

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For the beta.

SPEAKER_00:

So if you want to be a part of the beta, go to thesalty tarot.net and subscribe because I'm gonna use a randomizer and pick random people for that.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And so if you want to be a part of it, let me know.

SPEAKER_02:

For sure. It's really exciting. It's such a fun app, too.

SPEAKER_00:

It is, yeah. We got I I wish we'd have videoed it. We took it to the bank.

SPEAKER_02:

I know.

SPEAKER_00:

And uh we had three people that were just laughing and having a good time with it. Yeah, it was great.

SPEAKER_02:

It was great stuff.

SPEAKER_00:

Wish I'd have videoed that. I could have made put that on Instagram.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Maybe we'll go back there and recreate.

SPEAKER_02:

We yeah, we uh I feel like we miss a lot of video opportunities because we have not quite acclimated to the video part of life.

SPEAKER_00:

I really wish that we'd have videoed this whole process.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. I agree.

SPEAKER_00:

Because it's been I mean, what does that look like?

SPEAKER_02:

Do we plant GoPros on our head and just walk around video all the time or what?

SPEAKER_00:

You know, I don't really know. I don't know either. You know, uh apparently we weren't supposed to do it or we would have been urged to do it. Absolutely, that's exactly correct.

SPEAKER_02:

But that is where But I am feeling the nudge, the gentle nudge of um figuring out some sort of video apparatus. Yeah, and I don't know, like I said, I don't know if that looks like we have like a video on our head and a video on our lapel. Or maybe I walk around with my meta sunglasses on all the time. I wear my sunglasses at night. Oh my. So I can, so I can. What are you trying to say? Keep my day job.

SPEAKER_00:

Wow, that was different.

SPEAKER_02:

Anyway, um the back in the day, that was a popular song.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, I agree.

SPEAKER_02:

Back in our time.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, and I remember wearing my sunglasses at night because of that song.

SPEAKER_02:

Right.

SPEAKER_00:

I do.

SPEAKER_02:

We all look like a bunch of idiots wearing our sunglasses at night with our jams on.

SPEAKER_00:

It just made it worse. The Top Gun movie made it worse with Tom Cruise wearing his aviator glasses all the time. So everybody started wearing aviator glasses at night.

SPEAKER_02:

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00:

And it was it was kind of a weird place.

SPEAKER_02:

With our big radios on our shoulders and shit.

SPEAKER_00:

And if you all look close to our age, you you remember these days.

SPEAKER_02:

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00:

You know, because we would take our parachute pants and our aviator glasses and we'd go out and break dance on the on the sidewalk with a piece of cardboard.

SPEAKER_02:

I feel like everybody knew how to do the worm.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

And do the the back spin thing, whatever that was freaking.

SPEAKER_00:

There's actually a yearbook picture of me in one of my yearbooks of me doing the worm in the gym.

SPEAKER_02:

And your multicolored parachute pants.

SPEAKER_00:

No, it was uh uh wrestler jeans from Walmart. I didn't have parachute pants.

SPEAKER_02:

I did.

SPEAKER_00:

I did have parachute pants, but after I bought them later on in life.

SPEAKER_02:

Right.

SPEAKER_00:

And they were already out of the cool stage when I bought them.

SPEAKER_02:

Uh yeah, yeah. But and you know what's so funny is we will talk about some of those things amongst our uh the younger individuals that we come across and they're like, ooh, I don't even know who that is. I don't know what those are. And then you're like, wow. Yeah. That's one of those Twizzler moments where you're like, yeah, there's some of the things that I've done.

SPEAKER_00:

We've been watching that buzzer channel, and there was a 14-inch color TV on that because that this on uh sale of the century show from the and from the 80s, and that TV 14-inch color TV was eight hundred dollars.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Back then, I'm like, holy cow. Right, you can buy a 60-inch color television with 4k HD now for that.

SPEAKER_02:

Right, exactly. But you know, a lot of and they were so excited to have won it.

SPEAKER_00:

I know, right?

SPEAKER_02:

They couldn't wait to pick it.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, it was pretty nuts. That was when colored and that thing was itty bitty.

SPEAKER_02:

It was, it was so tiny.

SPEAKER_00:

But it is one of these, I guess. That's how things happen. You ready for the topic of the day? I am so we as humans, this is where my mind is today, and this is what energy I'm trying to clear. We as humans will work through a process and we'll allow things to come into our reality. And like, for example, we get told things and we take it as face value and we believe it. So this morning I'm asking myself, why is it we take things at face value for those people and they don't follow through with it. And so I I'm looking for, you know, I guess as humans we have a tendency to want to blame things.

SPEAKER_02:

So that you can understand it?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I think I think more it's a search for why is it somebody tells you something and then they don't follow through with it. And so the only thing I come up with is there's a belief system in the way that blocks the flow. And so we as humans, in a human experience in this realm, in this reality, in this dimension, we are creating things in our reality that blocks the flow of things, like we were talking about flow this morning. And it it happens a lot. And the only thing that can figure out why the flow would get blocked is if there's a belief in the way. Like, for example, a belief of you're gonna go buy a new car, and you walk into dealership, dealership, oh yeah, we can work a deal, you take that for face value, and then for some reason the terms don't meet what you wanted. You know, it never is exactly what you want. And what causes that block of flow. And so this morning I was kind of enlightened a little bit about subconscious beliefs that we interject into our reality and create assumptions of of expectations. We because we so want what we're going after when something comes into our reality that gets blocked. Why is that? Because, like, for example, when we first got together and we were at the house and I said, I'm gonna go buy a motorcycle a day. And I got up, I walked to the I drove down to the walk, I sort of say walk, drove to the motorcycle place, I bought a motorcycle, drive it back, pick you up after you get out of the shower, and we go for a ride.

SPEAKER_02:

Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And it was just that easy because I had no beliefs in my way. I had nothing in my way.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

And then when you do things, like you, you know, when you don't expect things, when you don't have an expectation, and the example that came into my mind was the app. Okay, the expectation for it was to be in beta by the 31st of October.

SPEAKER_03:

Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Or I say the plan was the plan. It's not even what an expectation. I nowhere in my belief system did I expect it to be uploaded to the Apple store on the 15th of October.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00:

And so I had no beliefs in the way because I didn't know.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And I didn't know what to expect. I didn't have a belief behind it.

SPEAKER_03:

Right.

SPEAKER_00:

And so what happens? Spirit takes over, the energy flows, and it's uploading almost two weeks early.

SPEAKER_02:

That's right.

SPEAKER_00:

Um, and so I I equate this to um an analogy one time that I used, and that is take a one-pound weight and you hold that weight and name that weight one of your emotional stressors. Say, for example, we'll use stress. We're gonna name that weight stress and the belief of stress, stress that stress exists. And you, if you believe stress exists, then it be can become a very heavy energy. Okay. So you take this weight, and if you hold that weight out here on your arm, just hold it out extended. You can hold that weight for a while. Well you can hold that weight for a little while, and then the longer you hold it.

SPEAKER_02:

Depends on what you mean by a while. I could probably only hold it for a few seconds.

SPEAKER_00:

But the analogy of the weight is when you're holding it, the longer you hold that weight, the more stressed your muscles get, the more fatigued your body will get, and eventually it will lock either lock into place and freeze up to where you can't move it at all, or you'll lose all ability to even hold it at all. You'll fatigue yourself to where your arm drops, even just a one-pound weight.

SPEAKER_02:

I see.

SPEAKER_00:

And so when you name it, because here's the thing, is the belief behind stress is heavy, first of all, and then the belief behind holding a weight extended out for a long period of time. You've been taught that you can't do it. And so it becomes a belief as well. And so this morning when I was in the shower and I was kind of going through this process of thinking, you know, I remember I was 14 years old. And I was fishing with my dad below Uligal Dam in Oklahoma.

SPEAKER_02:

I'm sorry?

SPEAKER_00:

Oligal. It's a name of a lake.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, I thought you got choked or something.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, did it. We uh we're we're we're going up and down the dam and we're we're fishing and we're using doll flies, you know, and uh we're on bobbers and they're floating, throwing it upstream because they're they've released a lot of water, so it's the river is running really hard.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And the sand bass were running, so we were fishing for sand bass.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

And I throw my line way up by the dam and it floats down about halfway, you know, that uh where I was going, and it just stops.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh.

SPEAKER_00:

It just stops mid-stream, and I'm like, that's weird. Because this water's running. I mean, it is going fast.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

Like they have they have the red cones up for almost a mile and a half downriver because the river is that hard.

SPEAKER_03:

I see.

SPEAKER_00:

And so I tell them my dad, I'm like, Dad, my stuff stopped. And I go to try to pull on it, and it don't move.

SPEAKER_02:

You made resistance.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. There's and and it doesn't move, it just sits there. And my dad says to me, the the thing that it took me five or ten minutes to really think about what he said. He said, Well, maybe you're hung up. And about five minutes later, I'm like, How the hell can I be hung up? It's on a bobber. It's only 14 inches deep. And it the the river is so high it's not even close to the rocks. Not even close to the bottom. Okay. There's nowhere no way for it to be hung up. And I tell my dad, I'm like, this ain't hung up. It's 14 inches deep. And about that time I'm holding this thing, I'm trying to get it loose. And he comes over, grabs my rod, starts popping the line, trying to get it to break loose.

SPEAKER_04:

Right.

SPEAKER_00:

And then all of a sudden it goes and takes off down into the thing.

unknown:

Oh.

SPEAKER_00:

And so I'm holding this fishing rod. And nowhere in my belief did it did I say to myself, I can't land this fish.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

And nor did I say my muscles are gonna get so fatigued that I can't land this fish. My dad started coming over to me, do you want me to take that pole pole? Well, it was almost three hours later.

SPEAKER_02:

Three hours later.

SPEAKER_00:

I go up the river, down the river, I'm chasing this fish, and finally, we're about a mile from the dam where we started, you know, and all the everybody's watching. There's a bunch of people around, and this this fish finally circles the surface. And I'm like, holy cow, this thing was massive. I mean, it was five foot long. And so I go to to uh ask my dad, how are we gonna get this thing out of the water? And some guy comes out of nowhere, jumps in behind this fish, and scoops it up out of the water and throws it up on bank in this fast moving water. And then he floats downriver about another quarter mile before he hits shore and gets up and comes down there and I landed a 45-pound flathead catfish on a four and a half foot crappie rig.

SPEAKER_02:

I'm sure to somebody out there that means something. Yeah, it was only a 10-pound test line.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, it's big.

SPEAKER_02:

That's a big fish.

SPEAKER_00:

That's a big fish for that little bitty roll. For that rope. Yeah, I had 10-pound tests. It was on doll flies, and doll flies are little bitty jigs.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

I was I was fishing for sandbass.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

Their average rate's about three pounds.

SPEAKER_03:

I gotcha.

SPEAKER_00:

And here I am hooking a 90% or a 900% bigger fish on a rig that's only four and a half, five foot long, and it's very flimsy. But here's the catcher is I land this fish because something happened. Some I didn't have something blocking my flow telling me I couldn't do it. Or it's not gonna happen. Ah and so I go to when when we land this fish, I go to put my fishing pole down. And literally, my arm is locked in place. I can't even extend my arm. Like it's locked in that position where you're fishing and you got everything all railed up.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

My hand that was using, that was working the reel was locked into the closed position. So I'm like, my arm my right arm is locked up against my body, and I'm like this, and my left arm is is they're both caught in this position, and I cannot move. Literally. I'm like, the the muscles have just cramped and seized into that spot. Okay. But the crazy part about it was it never hurt.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh.

SPEAKER_00:

And I landed this fish, and my muscles didn't give out, the fatigue wasn't there, and I did not block the flow of that situation because I believed it. Because I believed or had an expectation that my muscles were going to fatigue, or all of that. And so I I went through this thought process this morning of all of this, and that story popped in my head.

SPEAKER_04:

Right.

SPEAKER_00:

And the the biggest part about that story for me was how do you land? How do you land that fish? That's a it's a great way to really think about life. How do you land that fish? Anything in life. The reality is that you don't really know if you unless you've experienced it. And then a lot of the times, if you do know because you've experienced it, you're gonna humanly interject into it. And I myself am very much a human go-getter. I'm a social guy. I like I have a way I like to do things, and and and I have to stop that process because it's blocking my flow.

SPEAKER_02:

Your 1995 wiring is not up to date with your 2025 iOS processing.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm guessing somewhere in your in your article today is 1990. The second time you brought up 1995. Okay. Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02:

It's popped into my head. I mean, we're from the era, you know, 1990s.

SPEAKER_00:

Right. And so this fish story that's in my head.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

It is it brings to the reality of a situation, and this is where I'm gonna ask you to interject.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh God.

SPEAKER_00:

Is why and where do we decide that we're smarter than the people that created this planet, this world, this environment, this and why do we interhumanly interject? Why do we block our own flow? Because you know what happened uh about two weeks after that fish? What? I caught almost a state record largemouth bass.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, nice.

SPEAKER_00:

Brought him up out, picked him up, and my because it took me a few minutes of fighting this fish, yeah, my hand cramped and I dropped him back in the water. Oh after he was weighed. Oh and so because I created a belief that my muscles were gonna do that thing, I believed it. And then what happens after we weigh this fish, we've got him out of the water, and oh, he was almost a state record. I mean, he was like two ounces off. And I go to take it, I hold him out, take another picture of it, my arm cramps, and I drop him, and if I created a belief on something that I did nine nine times bigger than that one just two weeks before that. Yeah, and so interjection to you, where I want you to give me your doctorisms, is when we have a belief like that that is non-happenstance belief, that we don't really create or think about, it just kind of happens.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

How do you stop that?

SPEAKER_02:

Well, first is hi welcome Dr.

SPEAKER_00:

Jenny to the studio.

SPEAKER_02:

Thank you for having me. Well, this can go in two different directions. First, what happens is you remember I teach that there's pain and pleasure. Okay. Then there is also this security mechanism, am I safe, uh, that goes on and takes place here.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay.

SPEAKER_02:

So in the first experience, everything locked into place, if you will, but there was no discomfort. You just didn't know what you didn't know. Right. There wasn't any discomfort, there wasn't anything. But after the magnitude of what happened disappeared, and the excitement and the joy of that disappeared, then not being able to move your arms, even though they were not painful, or your hands and come out of that position created a little bit of a scary point.

SPEAKER_00:

It was actually here's uh I'm gonna stop you right there a minute because it wasn't scary to me. I didn't know what to think about. No.

SPEAKER_02:

So never did you say, What if I can't get my hands to move, or what if I can't get my arms to move?

SPEAKER_00:

No, I was actually laughing about it, actually. I was it was in because it never hurt, even when it relaxed and came back. I never had pain.

SPEAKER_02:

Right.

SPEAKER_00:

But that I can remember.

SPEAKER_02:

I feel certain that if I were to put you under hypnosis somewhere where you were not um consciously acknowledging it, there was probably that small snippet of moment where it was like, especially as a child.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I remember my dad saying, I told you that would do that.

SPEAKER_02:

What if I stay like this? Oh my god, what if this what if I can't change it? It could be just a small microscopic snippet.

SPEAKER_00:

Maybe I don't and I don't remember that if that happened.

SPEAKER_02:

And because it took you for a brief second, and this is just a possibility. It took you for a brief second into that place of I didn't know what I didn't know, and now into a place of, oh, I did something that caused my body to do something weird and unusual that was a bit on the weird side, and I wouldn't want to walk around my entire life with my arms bent in that angle, even if there was no pain, it created a little bit of uneasiness within you, probably, and that logged as shaking the ground of safety, and so inadvertently on a subconscious level, you created a belief that caused you to release the other fish before it got to that point, because beliefs can occur on a subconscious level.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay.

SPEAKER_02:

You can create a belief inside you that is happening without you even being aware that it's happening, if it taints the security platform that you've created feeling safe, or if it is uh more painful than pleasurable. So if it creates a security threshold vibration, shakes your security safety foundation, even in the slightest little bit, it'll throw up a red flag. And if it's painful, which you already said it wasn't, I'm just giving the collective things to to recognize versus uh pleasurable, even if it's not so painful that it brings you to your knees, it can in the background create an inadvertent belief in the mechanism of keeping you safe and secure inadvertently. Okay, and so And it can happen without you knowing that it's happened. It can be it can happen unconsciously and you don't even know that it's there.

SPEAKER_00:

So what I wanted to bring to the table in this topic was we are taught a lot of beliefs.

SPEAKER_02:

Yes, we are.

SPEAKER_00:

And most of our beliefs most of our beliefs as we're growing up are given to us.

SPEAKER_02:

A lot of them are, yes, I agree. But some of them get created based on that uh safety security mechanism and the pain and pleasure mechanism. We'll create our own at any age.

SPEAKER_00:

That's where I'm going with that. Is I didn't know it was I didn't know it hurt until I had all these people around me saying, Oh, that's gonna be, you know, it's gonna hurt and whatever. You know, like I went into my high school gym and there was a big thing in the weight room that said, No pain, no gain. I used to quote a movie quote all the time to people. It I believe it was from uh Roadhouse, Patrick Swayze, he said, pain don't hurt. I used to quote that all the time.

SPEAKER_02:

Why?

SPEAKER_00:

Well, because in reality, are we does pain really hurt? Or are we giving a sensation in our body a name and attaching an emotion to it that creates a result? And that's kind of where I was going with this today, isn't it? And I wanted to take it to a place of you know, why is a pencil called the pencil? Why is why are we taking uh human experiences and giving them labels and attaching emotions to them? You know, like the word stress, I use that today because the doctor asked me one time, Well, are you stressed? I didn't know what stress is. I don't know what it feels like. And and I don't want to know what it feels like.

SPEAKER_03:

Right.

SPEAKER_00:

And so do I have what they say is stress? Like I I we're tell I we as humans and in our society, we take things that we're given and we give them weight. And we hold on to that weight.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And when we take that weight and we hold it out there and we stand it out, you know, we are taught that your muscles will fatigue and eventually you'll put that weight down. And and what I don't want to get caught up in, which I'm gonna change in my life, is I am not gonna take what other people say. I'm not gonna take what beliefs are anymore, and I'm gonna really work on taking those kind of happenstances in my life away. Because the reality is, is we've attached emotions to these to these things that we're taught. We've attached a strong belief and we hang on to those. And so I'm just gonna let the weight go.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, yeah, I mean, that's the premise of what you and I teach as a whole, is that weight by weight, if you can let them go, then reality takes on a whole different meaning, perspective, experience.

SPEAKER_00:

Right. Like like when we left our job and we have we went on this journey that we're on now. That was a big weight for me. I was hanging on to that weight. And I I had attached to that weight fear. I had attached I had attached many things. And I can go through a whole list, but there's a whole list there. And what I did about, I don't know, a month and a half ago, is I had let that weight go. And I finally let that weight go. And I detached emotions, and I really don't care. And I'm not giving it any weight in my life of worry or, you know, whatever that is, whatever we attach to these stupid things. Because the reality is, is no matter what emotion you put with it, doesn't change it. It is what it is. You know, I you hear me say that a lot. It is what it is. It's what's the use of thinking about it or worrying it? And so in this whole system that we're talking about, you know, we listen to people, they tell us things, we take it for face value, we attach an emotion to it if they do it, and we attach an emotion to it if they don't do it. We we take what what we think is supposed to happen, we attach an emotion to it if what what it looks like if it makes us happy, and we attach an emotion to it if what it looks like if if it doesn't make us happy. And what if we remove those emotions and let them emotion just be natural? Don't attach anything to it and remove the expectations, because if there is something out there you're hanging on to, you will continuously through hope, which you talked about in on your money blog, you know, that you just posted yesterday. Oh no, it's not posted yesterday.

SPEAKER_02:

I was having a few glitches. It'll be posted today.

SPEAKER_00:

You know, we we take hope and we turn it into something that it's not. Yeah, I mean we we turn all of this, we we attach emotions to it and everything. And then we we take hope and we put all of our weight in one basket because we attach emotions to it. I hope this happens. Oh my gosh. I hope this happens or hope this is gonna be this way. And when we do that, you're setting yourself up for failure. Because whatever you're hoping for may not supposed to be happening in the in the way you're s that you're trying to create in your mind. This is all just a visual world that we're living in. And we take this these uh situations and we attach human emotions to them, which we're supposed to have human experiences while we're here, but are we attaching them in the right way? And so stopping to look at it and not taking other people's experiences for face value and experience it yourself before you attach an emotion to it. And that's kind of where my mind is today. I know it's kind of a weird deep subject, and I'm carrying it along a long ways here. But the reality is there's a lot of people that I know that do this. I want this to happen. This way, and if it don't, this is gonna happen, or this emotion happens, or they create a fear behind it. Oh my god, I can't fly. I'm gonna die and on the uh if I fly. You know, those kind of things. We attach in motion because somewhere somebody has taught them that flying is f is dangerous, or driving a car down the road is dangerous, or or going out on the limb and leaving your job is a dangerous thing to do. And that's where I was when I released the part of all of this today that I'm releasing, which I have to rebalance. It's been kind of a weird little roll energetic roller coaster for me because of a disappointment that that I experienced yesterday.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And I'm okay with what happened yesterday, and I don't blame it on anybody else, other than I had put an expectation and I blocked my own flow. And so when people that are listening out there, you need to understand that when you create an expectation, you are that's all human. Spirit knows what to do. Your higher self knows what to do, your God knows what to do, whatever that is, what you need. And then they're gonna give it to you when you have faith and don't have hope. And you don't attach emotions to it. What I'm saying is stop and look at it. Stop and let the flow happen. Whatever that is. If I would have held my dad's expectation on what was gonna happen with me fighting this fish, I would have never landed that fish because it creates a block in flow and block in that energy and a block of the experience. And so we as spiritual individuals, if we realize that when we do that, you stop your own flow because you're supposed to have your experience, not the other person's experience.

SPEAKER_03:

Right.

SPEAKER_00:

You'll see it all the time. People, you know, if you don't believe me, go sit down in a coffee shop and tell somebody tell somebody that walks in that you're gonna start some kind of stupid business and make something up. The every time, the very first thing that comes out their mouth is gonna be the negatives. You know, like the experience that we had the other day with this shark that we met with.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

The very first thing that came out his mouth was negative to everybody.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Why? Because he's trying to sell something. Now, and he you know he may believe what he's saying. I don't know. Don't really care. Because his experience is not gonna be mine.

unknown:

Right.

SPEAKER_03:

Right.

SPEAKER_00:

And that's where we have to go with it in life is if you're having experiences humanly, they're supposed to be yours, not somebody else's.

SPEAKER_03:

Right.

SPEAKER_00:

And so we as humans, we attach all this stuff to these things. Why? What does it accomplish?

SPEAKER_02:

I don't know, you tell me.

SPEAKER_00:

I got on my soapbox this morning there, a little bit. And just for those people that listen, Dr. Jenny is not the only one that studies this stuff, too.

unknown:

Just play it.

SPEAKER_02:

Wow.

SPEAKER_00:

That was just playing. That was a joke. So the part of it that I really am looking forward to teach everybody is the freedom behind creating freedom.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

What what what's it feel like? How do you do that? How do you create that freedom? How do you stop yourself from attaching emotions and expectations to experiences in life? This is where Dr. Ginny steps in again.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh no. This is your journey. You tell us how did you do it? How are you doing it?

SPEAKER_00:

Well, yeah, I'm not perfect at it by any means.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, I'm not saying you are, but you were you're personally going through or have gone through situation. And so what did you do to release it?

SPEAKER_00:

Like back in the day when I when I started my restaurant company, I had zero expectations, and nobody around me had had experiences that they could give me their negatives on because nobody had been down that road, which was actually a very much a benefit for me. And so all I did was kept doing the next right thing.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

What felt good today. Right. What feels good tomorrow. Not so much that I did I create an emotion and follow that emotion because that's what we do as humans. When we get something in our mind, we create an emotion based off the expectations we visualize in our head of what's going to happen with this experience. And then we try to follow the happy journey. Is that always the right way to do? No, it's not, because we're attaching emotions to an experience that we haven't experienced. Now, when we do that, if you've experienced it, you can 100% attach an emotion to it because you've already been through it. Like if I would have taken my belief system from, say, my dad. My dad said, Oh, you're gonna go into business for yourself. It's so so such a hard thing. And I believed that, then my business probably would have failed because I had a belief behind it and I'm attaching an emotion. It's gonna make me tired, tired's gonna make me this, and then you we go through this thing as humans where we do that. Now I would tell everybody to this day that running a business and opening your own business is fun. Because I did have a good time doing that. I enjoyed it. Now, did was there after I started listening to other people and doing other things, there was bumpy roads in it? Yes. There was bumpy roads in it because I took on other people's experiences. And when you can when you can look at every adventure or everything in your life that you're creating new experiences in, go into it open-minded and without expectation. Just go do it, you know, like like we went and scuba dived. Not once did I ever say, Oh my god, I could die doing this.

unknown:

Right.

SPEAKER_00:

Because nobody around us told us that.

SPEAKER_03:

Right.

SPEAKER_00:

And so, and we were went through this experience without attaching an emotion to it.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

The more we did of it, the more excited we become because we were creating our own experience and our own emotion in it.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

The scoop instructor was like, Oh my god, I I dive, you know, I've been diving, well, I don't remember what he said. He had 400 dives or something.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00:

I don't even remember. It was like an astronomical amount of dives that he had been through. And he loves every minute of it. And so it was it was uh we had went through this journey not knowing what to expect. And we didn't create an expectation. What we did create was the opportunity of positivity and being open-minded. And so if we can look at everything in our life, you know, you're starting a new business, you're starting a new job, you're day going into a new relationship, you you can't take your experiences unless they are 100% identical and tag emotions to them. You know, you and I had this conversation the other day. If you start a new experience with another person, you can't take the experience from the other person and tag it to that person unless they're identical, unless it's the same person, because it's a new experience. And you can't create an expectation of that person to uh to act a certain way because you really have no idea.

SPEAKER_03:

Right.

SPEAKER_00:

And so if you're going to do something like that, you have to go into it with a blank slate.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And don't attach emotions to it. Don't attach expectations to it. Just go into it with a blank slate. And that's where I am with my experiences now, is I'm going through this process of, you know what, I enjoyed starting my own business. I really did. There was no there was in the first five or six years of it, there was no part of it that I didn't like. Was it a lot of work? Yeah, but I hadn't labeled that as work.

SPEAKER_03:

Right.

SPEAKER_00:

You know, just like us and our, you know, we've been doing a ton of work for this app, but we don't have it labeled in our belief system as work. Right. And so it's fun. And it's the same thing with every opportunity. When something comes in, you know, like yesterday, our experience, I had an opportunity for me to blink that slate. And I didn't do it. And that changed the outcome of the event. Because we attach expectation, we attach emotion, and then we we hinder the journey. And if we go through our lives doing that without blinking the slate out for every experience, you're just gonna bring baggage along with you. You know, you've got it, one of the cards in the deck you read yesterday on the way home, which rang my bell, was uh something about packing Katie or Kate, whatever, Karen, don't ever pack or it's actually a t-shirt and it says pack light or don't.

SPEAKER_02:

It's not my thanking luggage, it's yours.

SPEAKER_00:

Right, or not my baggage, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Not my baggage, it's yours.

SPEAKER_00:

And so when you pack heavy and you carry that baggage along, you're creating the experience and the uh ripple effect of every experience that you're in. Because that experience can change today. Every time. If you don't believe me, go bowling. Go out there, stand in the same spot, throw the ball what you feel is the exact same way, and see if it strikes every time.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

It will. It will strike every time if you believe it will.

SPEAKER_03:

Right.

SPEAKER_00:

But if you create an expectation of it striking and an emotion behind it, if it don't, you've now created a ripple effect.

SPEAKER_02:

So talk deeper about expectation then, um, because I feel like that's a trip-up point. If how do you have an experience and know the difference between having an expectation that boxes that experience in or having a goal that actually keeps you driving forward on what you expect yourself to accomplish from like a goal standpoint?

SPEAKER_00:

Okay. So I'm gonna start off with the answering that question very simply.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

Every religious doctrine in this world states, come to me as a child. And that doesn't mean like literally in a child's sense. That means with a child's mindset.

SPEAKER_02:

You mean don't come to you with your hair uncombed and gum in your hair and you're black and beer fitted.

SPEAKER_00:

What it means is the curiosity and the energy behind it. Okay. So, like for example, if you go down to a Jeep dealership and you're gonna go buy a new Jeep and you meet the crappiest salesperson in the world, don't give you the deal you want, and you buy a Jeep. And you're not happy with it, you've now created a ripple effect of energy.

SPEAKER_04:

Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

Two years later, you're gonna go down and buy, you're gonna, you know what? I'm tired, I'm ready to get me a new Jeep. Do you go back to that same car lot?

SPEAKER_02:

I mean, I probably wouldn't. I probably wouldn't have bought the car in the first place there. I probably would have left, but that's just me.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, what I'm telling people is is you should go back and recreate the experience. Because if you tag your previous experiences and expectations of this adventure now, based off that adventure then, you're just bringing that energy with you.

SPEAKER_02:

I see. So go back to the same place so that you can actually have a positive experience that cancels out the negative experience and log it in a different way to help you not have an expectation or formulate a belief around that experience.

SPEAKER_00:

Correct.

SPEAKER_02:

I see.

SPEAKER_00:

Um, what I'm saying is, is you can't go into a new adventure with an expectation because of a of somebody else's uh result of an experience. Or your own. Or even your own if it was negative. If it wasn't a positive experience, then don't keep it. Don't hang on to that weight.

SPEAKER_02:

I see.

SPEAKER_00:

Go into it different. Go into it with a mindset of I am gonna make this the best experience of my life. And I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna have an expectation of anything happening today because when the opportunities come up, and I'm not saying go out and create the opportunities because that's human interjection. I'm saying when these opportunities in your life and your adventures in your life happen, you have to release the negatives. What I mean by that is is stop and say, I am not gonna give the power to the negative in this.

SPEAKER_02:

Right.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm I'm not gonna go to that Jeep dealership and experience the same salesman.

SPEAKER_02:

I see.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm gonna go and have a better experience.

SPEAKER_02:

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00:

And you set your intentions. Intentions are way different than expectations.

SPEAKER_02:

Right. No, I agree a hundred percent.

SPEAKER_00:

And that's where the that gets cloudied, I think. And so when we're going through this life and we go to this Jeep dealership, before I go, I'm gonna say to myself, I'm gonna have a heck of a lot better experience this time. This salesman's not gonna do it what it what he did last time, even if it's the same salesman. Because the reality is, is that person's reality's changed too.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And if you go in there and you go to the and that salesman approaches you, that same one you had a bad experience with before, and you hang on to the negatives, you will instantaneously change the environment.

SPEAKER_03:

Right.

SPEAKER_00:

You will instantaneously put him right back. You have no idea. He his his whole reality has changed in the two years.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

He he could have, you know, he could have just been having a bad day that day you met him.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

You don't really know because we carry the ripple effect with us.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And when we have when we create the expectations. So let me let me redefine this. Let me stop for a minute. Okay. The difference between intentions and expectations are very simple. An expectation has a visualized result, it has an emotion attached to it. An intention is a visualized result that we are open-minded to. We allow the flow to happen. So when you when you set your heard it here first, ladies and gentlemen. When we when we set our intention and we allow it to happen as it's supposed to, without expectation or emotion, you're gonna have the best result that you possibly can.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

But when you go into it and you change that intention by adding emotion to it or a visualized result, you have now taken your intention, turned it into an expectation, and restricted the flow. Why and how? Let me explain to you how. If you go in there with an intention of, I'm gonna have the best experience ever, I'm gonna love what happens, and I'm open to whatever happens, and now you've changed it into I'm gonna go in there and have the best experience ever, and I'm gonna buy this Jeep, but it's probably gonna be more than I expected it to be. Now you have now set that intention into an expectation, and it's gonna happen.

SPEAKER_02:

Right.

SPEAKER_00:

You are gonna pay more for that Jeep than you want to.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Or even on the other side of that, you say to yourself, I'm gonna meet the same, I'm gonna go to the same salesman this time, and I'm gonna change his reality. I'm gonna change him. The reality is you can't change him. You have now created an emotion and expectation that you're going to change him.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And change the result of what happened. You can't do that either.

SPEAKER_03:

Right, right.

SPEAKER_00:

You have to allow things to happen and create your own experience and only put the positive results in. Remove the negatives. Don't believe in the negatives. And don't carry the negatives along because you have no idea the situation. You know, like the salesman example, he could have just left, his wife could have left him. He could have filed bankruptcy. You don't have no idea. Right. He could have just been having a bad day.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. He maybe he sharded his pants.

SPEAKER_00:

At Taco Bell.

SPEAKER_02:

Maybe it was not a trust your fart day.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, maybe. Could have been.

SPEAKER_02:

But and he was sitting in cold poop.

SPEAKER_00:

Holy cow, I have been on my soapbox now for almost the entire time today.

SPEAKER_02:

It's okay. It happens sometimes.

SPEAKER_00:

And so this is where I'm at in my life. And this is where I got out of the shower with, and I was working on my energy outside with you on, is I'm trying to clear the energy behind expectations and failure and negatives. And so when we when I get up from this mic today, I will no longer attach negative energy negative results or energy or emotions to any of my journeys going forward.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, I mean, it it's a good place to try and get to because that's how that inadvertent entanglement happens. Yes. Um, because you attach a previous experience and the emotional content to it and the expectation to it, and then you go and do the next experience. And if there are any similarities at all, even if the whole journey is different, but there's one similarity, you automatically throw up a red flag, then you start that expectation kind of negative talk. Well, now you've entangled that experience into the previous one, right? And it can just keep going on and on and on, and then it can become an actual uh habit and a proverbial loop, if you will, on how your reality will express itself. Um gosh, this always happens to me. This always happens this way, and it can happen in all areas of your life, Pi, or just one, but that's how things inadvertently get entangled because as you're attaching that and you're not blanking out the palette, right? Like you said, which is an absolute wonderful thing, and you're going into it with the previous experience already in your mind, and you have an expectation that this one may go that same way, then you entangled fear. Yeah, then you don't let it become what it naturally wanted to become and give spirit, God, higher self the platform to be able to make it something other than what you expect it to be. Right. You tie them into a box where and so the rabbit hole concept is they're gonna create that reality to where it becomes this just amazing experience.

SPEAKER_01:

Right.

SPEAKER_02:

But if your frequency is not letting you get there, you'll you'll not experience it. You won't see it, you won't hear it, you won't taste it, you won't smell it. Right. You'll only align with that experience that your frequency is vibing at. And if you are going into the new experience with those previous experience vibrations based on the way that you identified it and defined it, you'll experience more of the same.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I agree. You know, and like uh when I've worked with people or I've talked to people in the past, you know, I used to have this girl that worked for me. And she was just she was beautiful. She was a beautiful girl, smart, educated, very intelligent. But she could not find a guy that matched her for crap.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

She would always come to me, she'd be like, Man, you know, this guy did this, this guy did that. And she always seemed to find the same guys that did the same things.

SPEAKER_02:

The douchebags.

SPEAKER_00:

The douche, yeah. I mean, she I told her one day, I'm like, the problem is is your picker's broke.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And she was like, What do you mean? I said, You carry the expectations along. You go in there picking these guys that have the same qualities, the same things, but yet you don't expect them to act differently. You expect them to act the same, but you continue to pick them.

SPEAKER_03:

Right.

SPEAKER_00:

But why? Why would you bring the expectation with you? And it's the same concept that we do with every experience in our own life.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, the unfortunate thing about the whole mechanism is that once that expectation is formulated from the experience that it came from, originated from, it happens subconsciously. And so until you bring it to your awareness and realize that you're doing it. Right. And then begin to actively change the habit behind it or the programming behind it, unfortunately, it will keep happening behind the scenes.

SPEAKER_00:

Because you're carrying it with you. It's repeating it.

SPEAKER_02:

You don't even know that you're doing it most of the time. Most people don't even know they're doing it.

SPEAKER_00:

That's right. You know, I what I said to her, why don't you go after this kind of guy? Oh, because they do these things. And that's worse than what's going on there, first of all. Second of all, how do you know that? Oh, my friends have told me. Oh.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

So that's why.

SPEAKER_03:

Right.

SPEAKER_00:

And of course, she later on ended up meeting one of the guys that I told her the style. I was like, because she she might end up meeting the vice president of a banking company.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And she ended up leaving, you know, working for me and to work for him. She told me I seen her like, I don't know, a year and a half, two years later at one of the conventions, and because she went to work for the started dating the vice president of the bank that we banked at.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And uh I seen her at one of the banking events and she said, you know, I gotta say this. I was like, what? She said, you were right. I was like, what do you mean? Well, I'm dating Danny now. Okay, great. How's it going? Oh, it's perfect. Why is it perfect? I don't know, it just happened. Here's your sign. Because you didn't expect it to happen any other way, because it just happened.

SPEAKER_02:

All right.

SPEAKER_00:

And that's how the life journey is supposed to be. When we as humans interject ourselves into it with our previous experiences that on the negatives only, because that's where we really screw things up. We attach the negative emotions, the negative experiences, the even if it's not even ours, we'll attach them to it. You know, like how many times, and and I challenge everybody out there, how many times in your life have you gone to go get a loan and you go into the bank expecting to happen what it to happen what happened before?

SPEAKER_02:

To be told no.

SPEAKER_00:

To be told no, or have high interest.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Because you expect it to happen.

SPEAKER_02:

Right.

SPEAKER_00:

And you have now created that realm.

SPEAKER_02:

Right. That you've created that dimension, that can right, that continuous loop. You've got yourself trapped in this loop, and until you make yourself aware of it and change habits and consciously catch yourself having that thought.

SPEAKER_01:

Right.

SPEAKER_02:

And make yourself stop and recalibrate to a new thought before you go in there, eliminating expectation and just being okay with it is what it is, and whichever way this goes, I will be and am perfectly okay.

SPEAKER_00:

Right. I mean, and I'm gonna give somebody, I'm gonna give everybody before we close one more little example.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

When I was 24, 25, me and a friend of mine were gonna go to the the uh finals rodeo in Belt, Montana.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh.

SPEAKER_00:

And we go there. We didn't have tickets. We just went.

SPEAKER_02:

Why am I not surprised?

SPEAKER_00:

We just went because you well, you know, you know my process.

SPEAKER_02:

I do know your process.

SPEAKER_00:

I do. And so we go.

SPEAKER_02:

Pack a backpack, whatever you can freaking fit in there. It may be backpacked full of nothing but granola bars and no clothes, and you wear the same clothes, or you have room for one skinny outfit and whatever.

SPEAKER_00:

We'll worry about it when we get there.

SPEAKER_02:

That's right.

SPEAKER_00:

But and he looked like I was, you know, his name was Chris, and Chris Droggan, if you're listening to me, you you'll remember this story. We went to the National Finals Rodeo. It's in Montana at the time, and I think it's moved a million times since then. But he said, How are we gonna get in? Yeah, it was cold. And where are we gonna stay? I'm like, Well, we're gonna take tents. It's cold. I don't care. We had tents, we're gonna throw them in the back of the truck, and uh, you're gonna take whatever money you got, and I'm gonna take whatever money. And he's like, How are you gonna get in? It's sold out. And we get there and we set up the tents and we cook dinner, and the next day the rodeo starts, and he said, How are you gonna get in? I'm like, we're gonna walk in the back door like we own the place. Oh, you're gonna go to jail. I'm like, No, we're gonna walk in, we're gonna take our bag with us, we're gonna carry it over our shoulder like we're bull riders, we're gonna put our cowboy hat on, and we're gonna walk right in the back gate like we belong there. And he said, You're gonna end up in jail. Or he said, he said, we're gonna end up in jail. I said, I'll tell you what, if you have that thought, you stay back there.

SPEAKER_02:

Right, don't even go, stay in your tent.

SPEAKER_00:

Right. And so I walked right in the back door, walked in the back place, and I get there, and the the girl at the death, I literally walked right, but they opened the gate for me because I look like a bull rider to them.

SPEAKER_04:

Right.

SPEAKER_00:

And so I walk in the gate, they open the gate, I get to the corner, the girl hands me the freaking pass that I put around my neck that I can get in free for the entire time I'm there.

SPEAKER_02:

Uh probably with all access, not even just uh you could probably go anywhere.

SPEAKER_00:

Right. Because I sent the intention of having fun.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And if I went to jail, I didn't care.

SPEAKER_02:

Right.

SPEAKER_00:

It wasn't about that. It was about I was just gonna go do this.

SPEAKER_01:

Right.

SPEAKER_00:

And it's gonna happen, and I'm gonna set my intentions and I'm gonna allow it to happen. And I walked right in the back door, they gave me the pass, and I was there for seven days for free because it was sold out, you couldn't get in.

SPEAKER_02:

Right.

SPEAKER_00:

And the coolest part about it was is I got to sit in the bull rider pin.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, yeah, yeah. That's why I was saying that access probably let you in places that you wouldn't have normally got in.

SPEAKER_00:

It did. I even went to the table and they gave me a number I put on my back like I was a rider.

unknown:

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00:

Never once did I get on any bull, and nobody never once did anybody ask me when do you ride?

SPEAKER_02:

Wow.

SPEAKER_00:

I just operated through things. So he Chris, an hour later, and because I go back out, I got my pass, and I meet him in the truck.

SPEAKER_02:

He's like, Oh my fucking God.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh my God. How'd you get that pass? It was a VIP pass. And the lady just handed it to me. I did, she didn't ask my name because he was standing at the corner with the passes that the people were letting in the back gate.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

That was the bull rider's pass.

SPEAKER_03:

Right.

SPEAKER_00:

And so I guess when I just walk in carrying my bag, I walk back out the gate in the front, and I go out and I put my bag back in the truck and I walk back in, and I'm out there talking to Chris before I walk in. And I said, Are you gonna do it? He said, I'm scared. I'm like, don't do it until you've until you can walk in there like you've owned the place.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

You gotta have that mentality, you gotta have that thought. Carry your bag over your shoulder like you're a bull rider and walk right in the back door.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And he gets about a hundred steps from the door and he's and he gets stopped. And he somehow mustered up and I distracted the guy because I came in the back. I'm like, Chris, come on, man, what are you waiting on? And uh so he then so they're like, oh, oh, oh, and they seen my pass, and they're like, oh, I'm like, bro, what are you doing? What are you holding him up for? And he he got in and he and we he goes over there, the girl gives him his pass, and he was literally almost in tears because they were about to escort him off the property.

SPEAKER_02:

You were about to jingle him up.

SPEAKER_00:

They were. I'm like, what are y'all blocking him for? He's with me. And uh so the crazy part about all of it was is is you know, I'm gonna close it in that is because when you can go to it in that mentality, life in that mentality of you know what? This reality is mine to live it and experience it the way I want to.

SPEAKER_02:

That's right. That's absolutely right.

SPEAKER_00:

And then I were I seen Chris, I don't know, probably three or four months later at the Tulsa rodeo. And he was wearing a VIP pass. And I said, I said, How'd you get the VIP pass? And he said, I walked right in the back door like I owned the place. And he did, and and he that's how we got in there. We never paid for to get into a rodeo, a concert, none of that stuff when we were younger. We just walked right in the back door like we owned it. And so that's what I'm telling, I challenge everybody out there, all these listeners today.

SPEAKER_02:

Walk in the back door like you own it, walk into that next reality like you own it. Don't carry the ripples already what you want to be.

SPEAKER_00:

That is correct.

SPEAKER_02:

That's what living in the moment, that's what we try to teach is living in the moment of what it is that you have in your daydreams. Yeah, what would it be like if I were this? Right. Live in the moment now as if you're already that, right? Walk in the back door like you are the bull rider, already embracing that reality, and do what that person would do, living in that reality that you want. That's living in the now, doing the next right step and the next right step. And that literally, that reality will build right underneath your feet, right before your eyes, one step at a time.

SPEAKER_00:

And and I'm gonna add a next step to this real quick, even though we're going long today. Is when I was released from jail, when I was released, I walked out that door like I owned the place.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And you should do the same thing on any bad experience. You walk out that door and you leave. The negative behind and don't listen to the bull crap like that uh guard said to me, I'll see you in six months. You ain't gonna see me in six months, motherfucker.

SPEAKER_04:

Right.

SPEAKER_00:

And I literally I flipped him off. I was like, you know what, don't don't do that. And I walked out the door and I left it and I've never been back. And I will never go back because I left that ripple effect behind.

SPEAKER_03:

That's right.

SPEAKER_00:

I am not still to this day, I am not fearful of anything when that happens. When any anything to do with that, I have left those ripples behind. And sometimes going into the door without the negative is or walking out the door and leaving the negative is just as important as walking in the door without it.

SPEAKER_02:

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00:

And because now you're gonna leave behind the negatives, and eventually when you leave behind the negatives and the emotions and the expectations, you you don't have to worry about not carrying them with you because they're not there.

SPEAKER_02:

That's right. And that is a good a a good ending point there because what I want to remind everybody is you step into a new reality millions of times in a day. Microseconds. Every second you're in a different reality, you're a different you. You've learned from the previous second. So step into that place or step out of that place knowing that you're a new you and there's no need to carry that baggage with you. Right. That past part is over, it's done with. And so leave it where it is and pick up a new blank slate to create from.

SPEAKER_00:

Right. You know, it's right.

SPEAKER_02:

And then walk in the back door like you own the place. That's right.

SPEAKER_00:

Walk in like you own the place. I used to tell everyone my employees that when you walk in the front door of my building, you leave everything at the door.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And that's what you should do. Anytime you walk into a new adventure, leave everything at the door.

SPEAKER_02:

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00:

But anyway, hey, sorry for Bogarton, the whole podcast thing.

SPEAKER_02:

No, hey.

SPEAKER_00:

It was a pretty deep run for me. You all don't y'all don't hear me get into these stages very often.

SPEAKER_02:

I don't, you know, I my work here is done.

SPEAKER_00:

But hey guys, uh, don't forget to check out our website, www.themercenters.org. Uh follow us on the podcast. We're on 11 platforms. If you can't find us, uh it's not hard. If you just Google search the spiritual grind, it will pop right up. And we have just met met new thresholds uh as of yesterday. 750 downloads.

SPEAKER_02:

That's right. Yay.

SPEAKER_00:

Um, and we're in 2028 countries. The podcast and your book is on and we say this, your book is available on Amazon, scripted from within.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

It's uh Jenny's handbook to creating a reality from the inside.

SPEAKER_02:

Short little read.

SPEAKER_00:

It's not a long read, but it's a good one. And the Salty Tarot app is coming out. If you want to be a part of it, go on www.thesalty tarot.net and subscribe.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, it's lots of fun to play with.

SPEAKER_00:

Anyway.

SPEAKER_02:

It's amazing.

SPEAKER_00:

How do you do you feel complete, my love?

SPEAKER_02:

I didn't even have to work today, so sorry. No, it's good.

SPEAKER_00:

All right, guys. Hey, thank you all for listening and uh like, follow, and share.

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