The Spiritual Grind
Dr. Jenni PhD,RN,CHLC,CH and medium and Rev. James ORD, MhsB have spent countless years studying and practicing many modalities within the "Spiritual" domain. Dr. Jenni has dedicated her life to helping others by attending countless schools and developing each of her practices and strategies. Rev. James has studied many modalities and Native American practices and they have Both decided to open their library of knowledge to share this information with everyone in a down to earth style, with hope to assist in making your journey easier and more abundant.
The Spiritual Grind
Feathers, Bells, and Breadcrumbs
Ever had the universe answer you before the coffee kicks in? We talk about the art of asking for guidance with clarity—and then actually catching the signs when they arrive. From a pristine eagle feather landing exactly where we asked to see it, to a $100 experiment that turned into a thriving watermelon venture, we explore how small, personal indicators can turn intuition into action, and action into results.
We break down the difference between problem frequency and solution frequency, and why being tightly focused on what’s wrong makes answers harder to notice. You’ll hear how we design our own signals—feathers, bells, animals, even a playful three-sign rule—to reduce doubt and build self-trust. We share the feather-flood road story (and the chicken truck reveal), the jelly recipe breakthrough that led to a festival invite, and the “yellow Jeep effect” that proves how intention primes perception. Along the way, we show why divine timing isn’t about waiting; it’s about staying open so the right thing arrives in a way you can enjoy, not fear.
This conversation is practical and human. Sometimes the “goal” isn’t the goal; it’s a trigger that brings old beliefs up to clear, making space for something better. We talk service over certainty, childlike curiosity as serious spiritual tech, and simple ways to start today: ask one clear question, choose one clear sign, and take one small action when it shows up. If you’ve been craving a grounded way to read spiritual signs without magical thinking or rigid rules, you’ll find tools you can use immediately—plus a few laughs and a billboard that literally said, “Here’s your sign.”
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Good morning, everybody. Welcome back to the spiritual grind. We are here again for your listening pleasure.
SPEAKER_01:Good morning.
SPEAKER_03:Good morning, Dr. Ginny. Wave to your crowd, they're applauding for you. Well, what an interesting week we've had. Week week week. What was that I just said?
SPEAKER_01:I don't even know, but you're killing me, man.
SPEAKER_03:Week wind.
SPEAKER_01:I'm the editor now of these podcasts, and you're whipping my ass here. Get your wordsmithing together.
SPEAKER_03:Hey, you have your own dictionary. I can have mine.
SPEAKER_01:Well, what was the word?
SPEAKER_03:The week wind.
SPEAKER_01:Week wind. Can you give us a definition of that word and then use it in a sentence?
SPEAKER_03:No, that means that we celebrated the victory over our week because we week wind.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, not at all what I was thinking. I was thinking you merged the week with the weekend and had a week wind.
SPEAKER_03:No, we had a week wind. We wind the week.
SPEAKER_01:We win the week.
SPEAKER_03:Yep.
SPEAKER_01:Alright. Can you use that in a sentence?
SPEAKER_03:Um after we discovered our trillions of dollars in the bank, we looked at each other and said, We win the week.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, you used the word backwards.
SPEAKER_03:This week we winded. We wind. We winded this week. That's what the voice detects would put in there.
SPEAKER_01:Or perhaps you ate too many beans. Maybe it could be too windy. Just windy in general.
SPEAKER_03:I did eat beans that day before yesterday. I did have baked beans.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. It was a really good thing.
SPEAKER_03:It was what a what a great lunch it was.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, he cooked some steaks out on the grill, then we had potato salad, baked beans. We had a little pasta pea salad.
SPEAKER_03:Yes, we did.
SPEAKER_01:A little potato salad.
SPEAKER_03:And filet mignon.
SPEAKER_01:And filet mignon.
SPEAKER_03:Mignon.
SPEAKER_01:And uh we have our co-producer here in the house.
SPEAKER_03:Yes, she's involved. She's uh monitoring the mixer board.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. I don't know why we have so many visits of our co-producer these days.
SPEAKER_03:But she's definitely producing something.
SPEAKER_01:She definitely feels like she needs to be present. Well, it makes me wonder if our ratings are down.
SPEAKER_03:But anyway, you're ready for the topic of the week?
SPEAKER_01:Of course.
SPEAKER_03:You'll remember that old song by Tessa. Signs, signs everywhere, the signs.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. You know signs are so fun.
SPEAKER_03:I know. And so I want to bring it to my attention and everybody's attention, if they w if they will. Is are you identifying your spiritual signs?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, are you listening?
SPEAKER_03:Are you listening to what's being brought forth? Like for example, we have a little situation going on with our app and and we're looking, we were working on some stuff, and we went to bed last night with set the intention that um, you know, basically guide us through what we're gonna do next.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, we were asking for clarity and information. Yes, basically, and we put the question out there and asked for the answer.
SPEAKER_03:We asked for uh understanding of why what happened and what we're supposed to do next, basically. Right. And I'm not gonna put out there what happened, but and so I get up this morning at 5 30, I make my coffee, and I go sit on the out on the in the front deck here, and I open up Instagram to see about, you know, doing the normal media stuff for the podcast and the app and the website and blah blah blah blah blah blah. And the very first short I see.
SPEAKER_01:Wait, can I ask you a question?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:How much coffee and how much water did you spill on the counter?
SPEAKER_03:Not very much. I cleaned up my mess. Did you clean up your mess? I see it on the floor right there going out the door.
SPEAKER_01:My mess. What mess is that?
SPEAKER_03:Your coffee mess.
SPEAKER_01:I spilt coffee this morning again.
SPEAKER_03:Yes.
SPEAKER_01:Wow.
SPEAKER_03:It's right there by the mat, right next to the trash can.
SPEAKER_01:I didn't even know I did.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. I know you never do. I always clean it up after you. You never do. You never know. But anyway, signs, signs where my Dr. Jenny has been. And so I get up this morning and I open up Instagram to do the kind of the media work. And bam, the very first video answered the first question and gave me direction on the second. Just very first video, and I showed it to you. Yeah. It was uh literally verbatim word for word what we asked.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it definitely uh was uh that's how our system works. Yep, yeah. We asked for it and spirit provides. And you know, spirit does that for everyone. It's just are you listening? Right.
SPEAKER_03:We call it the breadcrumbs of life.
SPEAKER_01:Are you too wrapped up in the problem to be able to hear the solution?
SPEAKER_03:Right. That's where we're ding ding ding ding. Johnny, tell her what she won. Yeah. I mean, that was a that was one of these. Because that's exactly what everybody does in this world. Yeah. Is they get so focused on the problem they forget to look for the solution.
SPEAKER_01:That's right. They're two vibrational frequencies that are very different from each other.
SPEAKER_03:Yep.
SPEAKER_01:I'll share my little fun thing.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:We have a bald eagle. I named him Biff.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, Biff.
SPEAKER_01:Big and majestic. I I called him a he.
SPEAKER_03:He sets across the little pond from us like every single day.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it's not little by any means. It's like a it's a pretty good sized little lake thing.
SPEAKER_03:I don't think normal people realize how big eagles are. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I don't even know how big they are. I just know that across the lake he looks small.
SPEAKER_03:I know they're not as big in Florida as they are up north.
SPEAKER_01:But I know he's got to be pretty big because I can make out his features.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Because across the lake is probably what two, three hundred.
SPEAKER_03:Probably three hundred two hundred and fifty, three hundred meters, probably.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Anyway, I said I collect feathers, and feathers represent to me my spiritual counsel saying, Hey, you're on the right path, girl. You're doing the right thing. Hey, we're here with you.
SPEAKER_03:Stay on track.
SPEAKER_01:You're you're on track or whatever. So our entire house is like there's feathers everywhere. I pick them up and I collect them. So anyway, I said, how cool would it be if Biff was flying over and dropped me a little love feather right here in my yard on my patio space, so I could add it to my collection.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And lo and behold, Friday. Yeah, I had my back to um where it fell, but you were watching.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I watched it. It came out of nowhere, it just came out of the sky and just floated down.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. It's the most beautiful. Uh you know, you get some of those feathers and they're kind of tattered looking. Yeah. This one was just perfect. The edges are perfect, and you can tell that it he released it right fresh.
SPEAKER_04:Just for you.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. It didn't lay there and waller in the mud and get kind of tattered or anything. It is just absolutely beautiful and perfect.
SPEAKER_03:And what did that feather mean to you?
SPEAKER_01:And just as a underlying fine print, my husband is true Native American, so he can own the feather.
SPEAKER_03:Yes, I I have legal rights to own it.
SPEAKER_01:What does that feather mean to me?
SPEAKER_03:It What do feathers mean to you? Because I want to share the feather story.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Okay. They mean different things. Right. Sometimes I want them to validate that I'm on the right path. Sometimes I just want to know that my spiritual counsel is behind me, has my back. I got you, girl. Keep going. If it's a rough journey, I'll ask for my feather indicator. Um, sometimes if I'm questioning, gosh, am I doing this right? Am I taking the right steps? They'll just magically put a feather in my path. Um, so the fact that that landed behind me after I requested it, is just confirmation that my spiritual counsel says, We got you back, girl. That's what that meant to me. And here, you are worthy, you are deserving for your requests to be fulfilled at any given time. All you gotta do is just ask.
SPEAKER_03:Right. I'm gonna share the feather story, the big one.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:This is pretty funny. You know, back uh years ago we lived in Arkansas, and we discovered these watermelons called Cave City watermelons.
SPEAKER_01:And so good.
SPEAKER_03:They are the best watermelons on this planet.
SPEAKER_01:Absolutely.
SPEAKER_03:Um, there's only nine registered growers in the Cave City area of Arkansas, and they only sell them for like three and a half months a year. And they're very expensive. Well, and the grower a hundred bucks for a watermelon for some. Absolutely.
SPEAKER_01:And the growers have to meet certain criteria to even become a grower.
SPEAKER_03:That's correct.
SPEAKER_01:They have to have a certain kind of land, it's gotta be where it watered with a certain kind of water.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it's water from the caves. Right. Yep. They pump it in from the caves and they water it with cave water. An extensive uh and this land is passed down from generation to generation. And like uh Jenny and I had this idea. Actually, Jenny had this idea. So you wanted to open a cave city watermelon stand. We lived out in the middle of nowhere. I mean, we literally were twenty-five minutes from any town.
SPEAKER_01:I think the closest store to us was oh, I don't even know what the little bitty bait shop that was open on weekends corner that was open on weekends that had like worms, yeah, beef jerky, soda pop, and beer beer, and cigarettes.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:That was the closest store. And I think they had gas.
SPEAKER_03:Uh I think they had one pump, but it was already shut down.
SPEAKER_01:There it's a tiny little bait store. But we lived and even that was what a good probably five or six miles. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:But we uh we lived on the we lived out in the country, like literally out in the country. And we were having a discussion about the um place of where we're gonna do this, and I was like, we'll just put signs on the road and bring them down there to us because we know how sought after these Cave City watermelons are. Absolutely. And I called a couple of the growers, and they were like, No, no, we're gonna we have enough vendors, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it took us a year.
SPEAKER_03:And so we're I I thought to myself, the next year, I'm like, you know what? I'm just gonna drive over there and talk to one of them. And so Jenny and I got on the motorcycle, and about five minutes into this ride, she was like, Ah, just forget it. They're not gonna sell to us, blah, blah, blah. You know, she's and we're on the back of the motorcycle and we're flying, and I'm like, no, we're just gonna keep going on the journey. We're following the breadcrumbs and following the signs that I got because I'd had a vision and a dream about us selling a bunch of watermelons and yada yada yada.
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_03:And Jenny was like mad that I wouldn't stop and turn around and go back. She was getting mad at me. And so we hit the stop sign, and we turn right at the stop sign. We're getting on one of the highways to go to the cave city, and then we make a left and probably two miles on the road, and then another right. And as we turned the corner, what happened, Jenny?
SPEAKER_01:I saw feathers on the side of the road.
SPEAKER_03:There was millions of feathers.
SPEAKER_01:You cannot even imagine how many feathers were all over the side of the road. It literally looked like a feather farm.
SPEAKER_03:It was and just nothing, no vehicles on the road, nowhere, no nothing. It was just us.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, because by this time, I I'm just aggravated that he won't turn around. I'm like, this is hopeless. There's no point in doing this. They're not gonna. I mean, it's been a year that we've been trying to get in.
SPEAKER_03:And I just started laughing. Oh my god, that was it was so funny.
SPEAKER_01:We're wasting our time. Let's just go find something else fun to do.
SPEAKER_03:And so we we it she was like, Okay, fine. I see you. And then and then it was like more. The entire way to Cape City, there was like just millions of feathers all the way another 15 miles. It was like it was like somebody just took feather pillows and dumped them out on the side of the road.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. As we went along, they weren't just on the side of the road, they were in the road, they were on the other side of the road.
SPEAKER_03:It was it was pretty funny. I was laughing the whole time.
SPEAKER_01:And so it was like more and more and more, and they were white feathers.
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_01:And it it was the amount, it almost looked like the ground was covered in snow. Right. This is that's how many feathers were being put in my path. I'm like, okay, I fucking hear you.
SPEAKER_03:So I pull up we we get to the uh Johnson farm, Johnson family farm. Um, they're the largest producer of Cape City watermelons.
SPEAKER_01:Are you gonna tell them where the feathers stemmed from?
SPEAKER_03:Oh, yeah. And as we get to the last stop sign, we pull up behind a chicken truck that was hauling chickens.
SPEAKER_01:And we just died laughing because we had been following.
SPEAKER_03:There was a couple times feathers hit me in the mouth.
SPEAKER_01:It was like we didn't know where they were coming from until we finally caught up to the chicken truck, and it was almost like, here, have a little laugh while you're at it. It was pretty funny. Validate your stupid spiritual temper tantrum that you're throwing.
SPEAKER_03:And then to even have more validation, we pull up in the parking lot of the Johnson farm, John Johnson Family Farm. Been there for 300 years almost. 280, I think they said. They've been selling these Cape City watermelons, and we pull up there, and I had talked to Mr. J the son of Mr. Johnson the the previous year, and he said, Oh, I don't think I don't think you're gonna get well, we have a waiting list for vendors, and yada yada yada. And we pull up in the parking lot and we get off the bike, and then there's a feather on the ground right next to the bike. Yeah, and it was a different feather, it was like a dove feather or something. Matter of fact, I think you have it in one of your jars.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, I'm sure. Absolutely. I keep them all.
SPEAKER_03:And uh so I get off the bike and I walk up to Mr. Johnson and I said, Hey, Mr. Johnson, you know, my name's James, and I I called you last year about, you know, doing a watermelon sand with your watermelons, and he said, uh uh I said, and I was just wanted to stop by and see if that was an option this year. And he was like, Oh, I just happened to have a vendor quit. Sure.
SPEAKER_00:Right.
SPEAKER_03:And so I immediately gave him three hundred bucks.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:We went back to the house and we loaded up the truck. We came back and loaded up a truck with watermelons, and we took that no, it was a hundred bucks.
SPEAKER_01:It was a hundred dollars.
SPEAKER_03:And we took that hundred bucks, filled up the back of the truck with like twenty watermelons. I don't even remember what it was. Yeah, wasn't very many. We stopped and got poster board, and I put two poster board and signs up on the highway and we sold out that less than an hour after we opened.
SPEAKER_01:With the little wooden stakes, with the little wooden steaks. We did all this on a hundred bucks. Yeah, I wanted to see if I could take a hundred dollars and what I could turn it into by selling the watermelons, and so we were literally going two to three times a day to get more watermelons because we were using, I didn't want to use anything but the hundred dollars.
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_01:And so as I made the money from this load, I would take part of that money and buy another load and just kept hand over fist putting the money back in the business, utilizing that same and you started making watermelon jelly and selling it.
SPEAKER_03:I did eventually I and then we got invited to the watermelon festival because of your jelly.
SPEAKER_01:That's right. I took that same$100 and the money that I would make, and I began to buy canning tools off of that same money that came from the watermelon stand. We upgraded our signs.
SPEAKER_03:They gave us a free spot at the watermelon festival.
SPEAKER_01:They did. They did.
SPEAKER_03:Because at the last two weeks of season, they have a big watermelon festival in Cape City. And it's like uh, I mean, it's world-renowned. People come from all over the country.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And you made what 500 jars of jelly and we sold out before the weekend?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Like last day we had barely any left.
SPEAKER_01:Right. We had made I I made watermelon jelly. I made watermelon preserve.
SPEAKER_03:Watermelon rind jelly.
SPEAKER_01:Watermelon rine preserves, which tasted kind of like apple pie.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And then we made the cantaloupe, remember?
SPEAKER_03:Oh yeah. And we also did watermelon dehydrated watermelon.
SPEAKER_01:And then we made the watermelon icebox pie to give out.
SPEAKER_03:Yep, I remember that. And we we we showed up there with what four or five coolers of stuff. And we left with nothing in like ten jars left in one cooler.
SPEAKER_00:Absolutely.
SPEAKER_03:And it was it was insane, really. But and that's how she got the nickname Mama Melons, by the way.
SPEAKER_01:Yep.
SPEAKER_03:It's not what y'all think it is, it's because of the watermelon. But we we give and what happened was is when she started making the watermelon jelly, when I went to pick up a load one day, I took a jar to the Johnsons. And they had never had watermelon jelly. Been in business that long, never had watermelon jelly.
SPEAKER_01:Well, the thing is, is that as I was teaching myself how to can um it's very easy to split jelly and the various kinds. There's a whole national organization of canning of jams and jellies, and and they did not have a recipe for watermelon because of the pH, and no one could figure out how to preserve the taste turns into wine and get the pH right to where you could actually can it and it wouldn't spoil.
SPEAKER_03:Right. Or turn into alcohol.
SPEAKER_01:Right. And so I played with the recipe, played with the recipe, and I finally figured it out.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, we spent countless hours at n late at night doing that.
SPEAKER_01:I still have the recipe, I just haven't done anything with it. Um, but I finally figured it out where I could maintain the watermelon, it almost tasted like a watermelon jolly rancher.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, and everybody had watermelon rind recipes, by the way. But nobody had the actual watermelon jelly recipes.
SPEAKER_01:Right, right. But if you remember, he said, Oh my gosh, this tastes just like my grandma's watermelon rind recipe.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So he was in love with that. Yeah, they bought several jars.
SPEAKER_03:And they're one of the major sponsors of the water of the watermelon festival. And so he called us and wanted to know if we would do a booth.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and nobody uh had made cantaloupe jelly.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, no, nobody. Out of his cantaloupes, by the way, they because they also raise cantaloupes out of the Cape City farms.
SPEAKER_00:Right.
SPEAKER_03:And they do they he does a little bit of mushmelon, but not much. He said nobody wants them.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Um, but anyway, so we ended up getting a call. He asked us to do this festival, and we ended up doing the festival, and you at the end of the season, you turned that hundred dollars into what, like forty something thousand? Yeah, it was insane. It was like crazy. A hundred dollar bill, um, and two pieces of poster board and four sticks that we cut up with four sticks in the shops that we cut up.
SPEAKER_01:And uh just kept taking that money and reinvesting it and reinvesting it until I got to where I could buy, you know, three.
SPEAKER_03:Right by week two.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, exactly. I mean, like like at first I could only afford to buy like fifty or sixty or I don't even remember. It was a small amount. Yeah. And by the time it was all said and done, I mean, we were buying hundreds of watermelons.
SPEAKER_03:Some of these watermelons would weigh excess of sixty and seventy pounds.
SPEAKER_01:Absolutely.
SPEAKER_03:And the people would pay 150 bucks for those things.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And it would it was crazy. It was like nuts because it went they they wholesaled them to us by the size. It went like five, seven, and nine.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And and we could sell these watermelons for astronomical amounts of money. Yeah. Because every time you go to try to get it, because the watermelon distributor of the farms, they're only open from eight to ten in the morning.
SPEAKER_00:Right.
SPEAKER_03:And so you have all these people, especially on the weekends, that want Cape City watermelon, and they're not open to get them, and so they have to go to a vendor.
SPEAKER_00:Right, exactly.
SPEAKER_03:And and anyway, to make a long story short, we followed the breadcrumbs, we followed the signs to do that kind of thing. And just like we do now, and that's why I want to challenge everybody to stop and look at your life for a moment and say to yourself, Am I seeing my signs?
SPEAKER_01:And and am I taking action to do something about them?
SPEAKER_03:Right. And because you have to trust in it, because that's one of the biggest things that we as humans do. We don't trust our own internal intuition and guidance and breadcrumbs. Uh, we have a tendency to follow the fear of you know of failure. We have a tendency to follow those things, and when you start following the signs of trusting them and seeing it, you know, put it out there. Like I have a certain thing that I do that I ask for for my guidance. Yeah. You have feathers, yeah. You know, I I have I want a vision. I want to I want to see something in my life. And when you learn to follow and trust those, man, it'll change your life completely.
SPEAKER_00:Absolutely.
SPEAKER_03:And you can actually set the parameters, tell your higher self, hey, I want to see a marble or a black dog or whatever it is.
SPEAKER_01:Right. Yeah. So whenever something clears, back uh when I uh it was still fairly new, I needed some sort of indicator that something had cleared because I didn't know what that felt like on a frequency level. So I put in place that I would hear a bell of some sort, a ding, a bell. So even now to this day, when something Yeah, you didn't have talked about it on the last podcast. Yeah, when something clears.
SPEAKER_03:Like when we first started coaching people, get bells and dings. You remember that lady in Arkansas in the dome houses? There's this like community of houses in Arkansas that's out in the mountains, and they're dome houses. There's like what, twelve or fourteen of them out there?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, something like that.
SPEAKER_03:But anyway, this lady had called us and we went over and did a coaching session with her and uh did a little aura reading for her. And she was like, Well, how do I know any of this works? And we were like, Well, we were we told her what you did, and she said, Well, I want to set that into. And we got in a afterwards we left about the bells and so she's like, I'm gonna set that too then. And we get in the car, and for some god awful reason. I don't know what the reason was, and of course we don't we know what the reason is. But out of the blue, our radio went wonky.
SPEAKER_01:Went wonky and it started going ding di-da ding di-da ding di-da thing di-da thing di-da ding di-ding. Yeah, I actually recorded it and sent it to her.
SPEAKER_03:And we called her and said, Listen to this. I called her. I'm like, listen to this. And she was like, I know my TV is doing the same thing.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. And uh it was like 'cause we had a pretty intense session and it was probably a good two-hour long session with her. It ended up being a couple hours.
SPEAKER_03:I was trying to remember her name yesterday.
SPEAKER_01:I don't remember either.
SPEAKER_03:I want to say it was a Sabrina, I think, or something like that. It was an old witchy name. Patty. Patty.
SPEAKER_01:I don't remember. I want to say Patricia Patty something.
SPEAKER_03:Anyway. But anyway. Yeah, it was a pretty intense. I mean, it was two hours. You did she did a session with you and with me.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. And it was uh We kind of tag teamed it.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it was pretty crazy. It was a crazy situation. But we followed the signs and she started following the signs, and then two weeks later she calls out of the blue and she had your store. Yeah, she had right opened the store.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And because she was like, you know what, I'm going all in after after hearing y'all's discussion and and she did.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And uh it she opened a liquor store actually, and and now it's one of the largest liquor stores on that out there.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And I remember right before we left Arkansas, I drove by and I was like, holy cow, look at this size. I mean, she had built an entire new building.
SPEAKER_00:Right.
SPEAKER_03:And uh I was I was very impressed with her. Actually, following those breadcrumbs.
SPEAKER_00:That's right.
SPEAKER_03:As you're going through your life and you want to know if you're doing the right thing, being on the right track, if you're clearing the right things, if you're whatever that is you're working on, or if you want to know, if you want to know the secret to abundance, financially, emotionally, physically, healthy, health-wise, any of that kind of stuff, you should set those parameters in place. You should set that out there that I want to see this sign.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, you can have validation, and validation is part of building the confidence and the trust in this, especially if you're new.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And you're learning how to use your intuition and your abilities, and you're new to it, set the set those variables in place. All you gotta do is just ask for them.
SPEAKER_04:Right.
SPEAKER_01:And it can be anything from feathers to stones falling out of the sky. I wouldn't recommend that.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I would do that because it may hurt. The next thing you know, you have hail storms every day.
SPEAKER_01:You know, you can ask for an animal to cross your path, you can ask for bells to ring.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:You can ask for I mean, gosh, I guess you could ask for pennies, coins, yeah. Get rich at the same time.
SPEAKER_03:George. That's what he does, remember? He started asking for pennies.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And now he's after uh he came and did a weekend sab or a week long sabbatical with us, kind of a spiritual Now he's a millionaire from collecting all the pennies. He said that remember you remember he stopped to get gas when he left and he called and said, Oh my god, I got out of the car, and there's like nine pennies on the ground.
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_03:And now he is uh married, very happily and married, been with the same woman now for a while, doing very good in his job financially.
SPEAKER_01:Giving applause.
SPEAKER_03:Giving him a so, George, if you listen to it, very proud of you, sir.
SPEAKER_01:We love you, man.
SPEAKER_03:He blames, he gives Jenny all the credit for teaching him through because I mean he was on a train wreck. He he went through women and divorces, and he was in a he was in a train wreck mentality.
SPEAKER_01:You know, we just I it wasn't me. It was just me channeling the information in a way that he could hear it, yeah. So that he could find his own vibration and his own frequency for his own healing. That's and that's basically what I do.
SPEAKER_03:He was so caught up in the in the world.
SPEAKER_01:But yeah, it's such a fun game back to the signs of really sitting down and figuring out what is that sign or combination of signs that will really get you excited about uh living your spiritual life and changing your perspective instead of it being uh oh my god, this is happening to me, what next you is gonna drop, what crappy situation is gonna come up next. If you'll put in place little games like that, it will change your perspective over time and it'll become a fun game.
SPEAKER_04:Yes.
SPEAKER_01:And it'll you'll make it fun and it'll be something that you're excited about.
SPEAKER_03:It builds excitement because every time you find something, you're like, oh, thank you.
SPEAKER_01:Right, exactly. And then it brings in that appreciation because you're um, you know, just even this many years into doing it for myself. Yesterday, when you picked up the feather behind me and you handed it to me, I was like a kid in a candy store, man, or you know, a kid at Christmas time. I was like, oh my God, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, because it's just amazing. It's amazing to ask for it and to get it and to have that revalidation, um, and then to end up with a beautiful uh feather that's just beyond words.
SPEAKER_03:Right. And then the experience of excitement is what I've learned about it all the along the way is sometimes you don't understand those breadcrumbs. And when you start bringing it into your reality, and uh I I use this example when I was explaining it to matter of fact, I think it was a George, is you know, you go to look at a new vehicle and you find this beautiful yellow jeep that you're gonna buy.
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_03:And you're like, you know, I never see yellow jeeps because you don't pay attention.
SPEAKER_01:Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_03:And after you buy a yellow jeep, guess what? You see yellow jeeps everywhere.
SPEAKER_01:Everywhere, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And so when you bring it into your reality and you set that intention out there, you will get the signs. You will see the things that you're supposed to do. You gotta make sure you recognize them. Yeah, and you and and please make sure that you just follow the crumbs because you have. Have no idea where it's gonna lead you.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, so I want to share a story real quick too that is uh gonna be very educational. I would say probably uh maybe a year or two before you and I met. I I've always wanted a Jeep. Even in my teenage years, when I got my first car, thank you, Dad, for that 1969 Chevette Born the Floor, Navy blue hatchback. I'm very grateful though. I mean, because there was there's a lot of kids. There's a lot of kids that didn't end up with a car.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, you know what I got?
SPEAKER_01:I had to help pay for it. I had to pay half for it. Uh, and I think it was like a total of$900. So I had to come up with$450 and he came up with$450. I ran that car ragged, but I digress. Anyway, the uh I always wanted a Jeep.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:But he was afraid of them, so he wouldn't let me have one.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, back in the day, they were supposedly a rollover wrist. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I have always been a Jeep lover. So in my uh I guess 30s, I was like, you know what? I'm gonna get me a damn Jeep. And that was when vision boards were really the hot topic. And that was the real buzz is okay, get a poster board, look at it every day, cut it out of the magazine and put the things on there you want and put it on.
SPEAKER_03:Say five Hail Marys.
SPEAKER_01:Right. Put it, and they do, they do work very much. It reminds you to stay focused on what your intention is.
SPEAKER_03:It's an energetic exchange.
SPEAKER_01:So I had a Jeep on there, and I decided this particular day for whatever reason, like I said, it was about two years before you and I met. I'm gonna go to the Jeep car lot and I'm gonna see what it feels like to sit in the Jeep, to hold the steering wheel in my hand. This was shortly after I'd come across, I'd say shortly, it's probably five years after I come across the secret. And that's what she recommends in that little documentary is anytime you can go do the thing, even if you're not ready to buy it or have it, if you can just go put your hands on it, smell it, taste it, whatever it is, it helps bring it more into that reality place.
SPEAKER_04:Yes.
SPEAKER_01:So I made the decision that okay, you know what? I'm I'm not ready to buy one. Financially, I couldn't see myself being able to, but I went and looked at them and I sat in it. And I even had the salesperson take a picture of me standing there at the driver's side of the green Jeep. That's how many years ago it was.
SPEAKER_03:The green jeep.
SPEAKER_01:And I knew someday that I would have one. I just didn't know when.
SPEAKER_04:Right.
SPEAKER_01:And I didn't get tangled up every day in oh my god, my spirit guides haven't given me my Jeep yet. Nope. I just stayed aligned to this is what I want, and I know that it's manifested. And as soon as it's time and right, I will align with it and I will have this thing.
SPEAKER_03:Yes. Um in the spiritual world, they call that divine timing just.
SPEAKER_01:And you stay easy about it.
SPEAKER_03:Yep.
SPEAKER_01:When you get too focused on not having the thing, that's when the energy changes and kind of takes you in a different direction for a minute. So you gotta stay easy about it. It's okay to daydream about it. It's okay to go have the physical experience of sitting in it, put it on your vision board, but it don't give it the confines of I must have it in this certain time, it must look this certain way. Don't put the constructs of what your human mind thinks it should do or when it should come. Just stay easy about it and stay very general. You'll feel the you'll feel the feeling that's different. The energy behind, why can't I have this thing? And no, I deserve this. Right. And the energy behind, yep.
SPEAKER_03:You deserve everything.
SPEAKER_01:Own this somewhere and I will align with it when the timing is right. That's correct. And now, you know, that particular thing, it took a little while to bring it in too, but I had some work to do around uh beliefs and stuff I had around it, and the timing of it came exactly when it came so that I could truly enjoy it.
SPEAKER_04:Yes.
SPEAKER_01:Um, because sometimes what'll happen is if you humanly push something and it comes too early, not in the right frame of mind to actually enjoy it, and it actually can become sometimes a burden to have. And so then you don't really get to enjoy the having of it, and it changes your perspective.
SPEAKER_03:It causes worry when you when you interject, it causes worry. Um, how am I gonna pay for this? And blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
SPEAKER_00:Exactly.
SPEAKER_03:And it's all negative energy that you're feeding into that item, and so that when you go into human interjection into that, whatever that is you're doing, it could be a job, it could be a product, it could be a relationship, whatever that is, when you humanly interject into it, it causes negative energy to go into that. And you have to then you have to clear that out of the way before it opens up.
SPEAKER_01:Right. Well, the rabbit hole part of that is you were given it early so that it would go ahead and bring up the rest of the shit. Yeah. So that you could go ahead and clear the rest of that out so that when the next type of vehicle, since that's what I'm talking about, comes along, you've got the rest of that baggage dropped and burned and whatever, and you can actually enjoy the next vehicle that comes along.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I remember the day we bought the green jeep.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:You cried.
SPEAKER_01:I did. Because I was like, here it is.
SPEAKER_03:We were driving down the road in Brandon, Florida. Yeah. Oh you pointed it out. We you were like, oh my God, look.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And there's a Jeep color out there, it's called High Altitude Green.
SPEAKER_00:Right.
SPEAKER_03:And they only made it four years, and it was for the Jeeps that are in the north around the Colorado, around the mountains. Yeah. Because at night it glows.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:So if you had if they had one overturned, the rescue teams could find the Jeep.
SPEAKER_00:Right.
SPEAKER_03:And so that's where that came from. And then you we're driving down the road and you pointed out, and I just make a U-turn and we go back and we drive off the lot with it.
SPEAKER_01:No, you we acknowledged that it was there. You went back without me. I did.
SPEAKER_03:You remember the next day.
SPEAKER_01:You went back without me. And I do remember kind of like trying to do a whole surprise thing.
SPEAKER_03:I did do it surprise thing.
SPEAKER_01:And you did, you did do a surprise thing because you came back and you got me. Like, here, sign this.
SPEAKER_03:We gotta go pick up your green Jeep.
SPEAKER_01:You said, get in the car, I wanna show you something. And we pulled up at the Jeep Depot, and you were like, Here's your Jeep.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, sign this paper.
SPEAKER_01:It was a green, it was a green uh JK.
SPEAKER_03:It already had a lift kit, already had tires and wheels on it.
SPEAKER_01:Exactly.
SPEAKER_03:And then we take it down and put a big stereo system in it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. And I did. I cried. I was like, oh my gosh, it's finally here, and I loved it. I loved it. And then we upgraded to the gladiator. Yep. Love it.
SPEAKER_03:Love it too, yep.
SPEAKER_01:It's an amazing ride.
SPEAKER_03:It was kind of bittersweet to get rid of this. It was because we had some we we were learning Jeeps, and we used another company to do the lift and tires and wheels on it, and it made it crazy. It felt very unsafe.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And so I was like, yep, I'm done.
SPEAKER_01:Got a little wonky and over fifty five.
SPEAKER_03:It was crazy.
SPEAKER_01:It was bittersweet for sure. I think for me it was because it was like all these years, and that finally manifested into my reality, and it was just such an amazing kind of uh uh nostalgic moment in time.
SPEAKER_03:Of completion.
SPEAKER_01:Um Medusa was Medusa was her name, yep.
SPEAKER_03:We actually had it set up to get Airbrush, and then the guy got a big job for some known artist, or then we never heard back from him.
SPEAKER_01:Right. I called him three or four times, but that's probably because Universe knew we were gonna upgrade to the gladiator. Yeah because I had always said next I wanted a Jeep up.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, Jeep Up. Yes. You kept saying that. Like after right after you we bought it, you started talking about a Jeep up.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I said, Well, I need a Jeep up now.
SPEAKER_03:That's what she calls gladiators, you know, the Jeep pickup. She calls them Jeep ups.
SPEAKER_01:And uh it took us a couple of years of research and really waiting for the right time.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, we almost bought one in 2020 during COVID, and then I I was like, no, because it was the first year of them. And the sticker price during COVID literally had almost quadrupled.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it's it was nuts.
SPEAKER_03:And they had the stickers in the door. Remember, I pulled them out and another sign. Yep.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, we went in and we we would go and look at them every so often just to kind of check in is this the right time? Is this the right time?
SPEAKER_04:Yep.
SPEAKER_01:And we were feeling the nudge to go and look at them. So we went and looked again, and we sat in one and you happened to look in the door, another sign, and pulled out the little sticker that goes on the window.
SPEAKER_03:Red came out of the factory at 44,000.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And then it went to sixty-eight, seventy-nine, and then one oh eight or something like that.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I was like, and so I asked the salesman, like, are you all wanting a hundred and eight thousand for this?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I said, What's this? Oh, those aren't supposed to be in there.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Just another sign.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. No, so during COVID, they quit making gladiators, and so it made all the prices go way up.
SPEAKER_00:Right, exactly.
SPEAKER_03:But anyway, so in then 2023, Black Friday, 2022, we we pulled up. They had this beautiful yellow gladiator. We followed the signs. It was a sign that we remember. Do you remember we saw that um billboard? Right. That said something and it had a yellow jeep on it. Yeah. And I was like, Oh, look there. And it was the gladiators were I don't even remember it was some billboard. And then we'd happened to drive by the Jeep dealership. Yeah. And there it was.
SPEAKER_01:We didn't even start out that day going to look at cars.
SPEAKER_03:No, we had been to Ikea for something.
SPEAKER_01:We were going to Ikea to um, I don't know, like some Black Friday sale for work.
SPEAKER_03:Look at something. We were doing something for work.
SPEAKER_01:Container or something for work or some something for work.
SPEAKER_03:And then we drove by and we drove off with a gladiator.
SPEAKER_01:It was eight o'clock at night. I think you said, um, let's pull in here. And I was like, oh, okay.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I just always know if he's saying that, then it must be time, or we're on an adventure to, you know, add to our vision board or check the energy.
SPEAKER_03:Yep.
SPEAKER_01:And we pulled in and sure enough.
SPEAKER_03:And literally, what two hours later we were signing papers.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:It was kind of crazy. We we pulled in at like four o'clock and we left. We left right at dark for like 7 30. Right. We were in and out, traded then, and and here we are three years later, we have it. Yeah. That was Black Friday of 2022.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. And that's just listening to the signs. And so when you can do it.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, yeah, totally. Just become open to it and be and set your parameters of what you want, what signs you want. Speak it out there.
SPEAKER_01:That's right. The crazy thing is that when you tell people that that's how you live, they don't believe it. They don't. They don't believe it. They're like, no way. So you literally just do whatever pops into your reality that falls off the bookshelf or falls out of the freaking sky. Yeah. And we're like, yeah, literally.
SPEAKER_03:You know, that's what uh this this recent thing that just happened. We have a friend of ours, Jenny's hairdresser, introduce us to this other girl who was starting a business. And we helped her out with the business. And then I got this Inkling to go make her a door decal. And so I did. And and of course our friend was like, Oh my god, that was so nice of you. Why do you know blah blah blah? I'm like, it's just us. I'm just following the breadcrumbs. I have no idea why I did it.
SPEAKER_00:Right.
SPEAKER_03:And I don't know if it'll whatever it's going to bring somewhere down the road. I have no clue.
SPEAKER_00:Right, exactly.
SPEAKER_03:And so I just trust it and move on.
SPEAKER_01:That's right.
SPEAKER_03:It is what it is.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, sometimes we'll do some of the weirdest random shit, but it's because we're following.
SPEAKER_03:You mean like starting a podcast?
SPEAKER_01:Like starting a podcast or creating an app or two or three.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Uh yeah, we are creating an app. Or go into the casino to just randomly walk up and try to try to blow a hundred bucks on purpose and then walk away.
SPEAKER_01:So that we can clear some dumbass belief or something out of the way. Like that's it our our life that we live is almost kind of like an Indiana Jones socket spiritual adventure, right? Where we follow the map and the Can I have the whip?
SPEAKER_03:I like the whip. Of course.
SPEAKER_01:Or what was that we watched the other day? National Treasures. Where he's following the signs and stuff on the treasure map.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, what's his name? Uh Nicholas Cage.
SPEAKER_01:Nicolas Cage. That's literally how we live our lives, and we are not kidding, not joking.
SPEAKER_03:Every day.
SPEAKER_01:We just do the next thing that's in our face that we're moved to go and try and do. And it a hundred percent of the time leads to the next thing and the next thing and the next thing.
SPEAKER_03:And and don't get me wrong, and I want everybody to understand this because uh when you do this, sometimes you don't know why. Sometimes it can cause human things to come up, and that could be the whole why it's coming up.
SPEAKER_01:That's right.
SPEAKER_03:Is to bring up an old belief and fear or whatever.
SPEAKER_01:So that you'll look at it and do something about it.
SPEAKER_03:Yes.
SPEAKER_01:Yep.
SPEAKER_03:And and to clear those things out of the way. And it could be that you're just helping somebody else, or you're doing something for somebody, or you're doing something or you're just doing it to do it to have the knowledge. Or you have no idea somewhere down the road when you're gonna use that knowledge.
SPEAKER_01:Right. And I think the the key factor and what you're putting forth is uh don't make it to where you have to know the why.
SPEAKER_04:Right.
SPEAKER_01:Just follow it and do it and not have to know the why before you do it.
SPEAKER_03:Yep.
SPEAKER_01:That's what's meant by truly trusting your spiritual guidance.
SPEAKER_03:It's not about what benefits you, it's about what benefits the universe. And sometimes when you do things, it's about providing knowledge for somebody. It's about providing knowledge to the Causec records, it's about doing something that creates some kind of knowledge that you'll use somewhere down the road that spirit's saying, okay, I'm gonna teach them now why they're not thinking about it. So down the road they're gonna say, Oh, that's why.
SPEAKER_01:Right, exactly.
SPEAKER_03:And because it may Because I do that a lot, by the way. I'm like, oh, that's why that happened. I get it now.
SPEAKER_01:Right. You may go on a breadcrumb journey, you may do this thing, you don't know the why. And it may be years down the road when it's finally revealed to you as to why you did it. And that that has to be just as okay as knowing the why minutes before you do it, or even weeks before you do it, or even a little while after you do it. The why may never come and you may never know. May never the why may simply be that you weren't supposed to fully take that journey to the end result.
SPEAKER_04:Yes.
SPEAKER_01:It was just utilized because it was the best way to get you triggered so that you would go into a deep clearing of beliefs, patterns, and program state. Yeah. And that was the whole reason for it. And that's why you never really accomplished the end goal and it went stagnant because the end goal was never the end goal. The end goal was just to get you to drag up the beliefs and shit around what you thought was the end goal so you could really lighten your load and get clear so that you could have even bigger experience around that topic. Agreed. That happens a lot as well in our reality.
SPEAKER_03:That's a perfect way to put it. So trust your guidance. Follow the breadcrumbs, man. You have no idea where it's gonna lead you.
SPEAKER_01:And it's fun.
SPEAKER_03:It is fun.
SPEAKER_01:Follow it with that fun childlike mindset of exploration.
SPEAKER_03:Right. I want to make this point.
SPEAKER_01:Please do.
SPEAKER_03:Every religion out there teaches this motto right here. Every religion. To open your mind and come to me as a child. Go to your higher self. Every religion teaches it. And they will no matter what it is. And so even I don't care what you follow, who you're following, what what Bible you pick up, what Bible you don't pick up, who you worship, who you don't worship, it's about childlike behavior and that childlike curiosity on life.
SPEAKER_01:And so if we define that childlike for even like newcomers who really don't have a good definition of that, what does that sound like? What does that mean?
SPEAKER_03:Every child has a curiosity within them and an energy about them.
SPEAKER_01:Right.
SPEAKER_03:And when you remove societal, because kill the children haven't been exposed to a million societal beliefs yet. Yes. They haven't got fifty years of societal belief taught into you. And inhibition and fear and all that. And they just, you know, like when I was a kid, I wasn't scared of nothing. I mean, I didn't know how to ride a motorcycle. I jumped on a motorcycle and started riding it. Yeah. And next thing I know, I've jumped it off into freaking creek.
SPEAKER_01:And but anyway, follow the next fun thing.
SPEAKER_03:They do. They follow the next fun thing with curiosity and those childlike eyes and energy.
SPEAKER_01:Like the the like spiritual ADD.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Pretty much, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. They do. They just follow what's fun next and what's fun next. And that's why they're so easily distracted.
SPEAKER_03:Life is easy and fun.
SPEAKER_01:That's right. That's the thing. That's the key to all of this is following what's fun, the next the next thing that's fun.
SPEAKER_03:Right. Like the like the the lady we used earlier in the example from Arkansas when we worked with her. She was not following her gut and her signs because she stayed in her nine to five job, but she wanted to open a business.
SPEAKER_00:Right.
SPEAKER_03:And her husband that had, I guess, passed, I think if I remember right, had her that was their dream together. They wanted to open this business.
SPEAKER_00:Right.
SPEAKER_03:And then after he passed away, he left her enough money to do it, but she was doubtful not to do it.
SPEAKER_00:Right.
SPEAKER_03:And after our conversation, she went and did it. And she followed the breadcrumbs. Even it wasn't even the same location that she was talking about putting it in. Right. So it was uh it that that's a childlike heart. Right. And that's a childlike energy and that's a childlike vision.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:When you follow those breadcrumbs.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. And sometimes they can be tiny. You know, sometimes it can be something as small as right this minute, I need to go lay down and take a nap.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Like Friday.
SPEAKER_01:That's the next best feeling.
SPEAKER_03:We lay down at one o'clock in the afternoon on Friday and didn't wake up until seven o'clock the next morning.
SPEAKER_01:Right. And we honored that that's what our body was calling for because you know, we're still kind of going through a little bit of healing.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So we still have some days that are a little bumpy.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And so, yeah, just following the next best thing that's fun or that feels good. It doesn't have to be some off the wall, ostentatious, adventurous thing. Right.
SPEAKER_03:And it don't always have to, it's not always obvious, guys. Just remember it's not just going to be this big thing unless you set that intention.
SPEAKER_01:Nobody, no lit leprechauns are going to jump out in front of you and hand you a pot of gold. And confetti goes everywhere and says, Here's your sign. Hear ye, hear ye. It does not happen that way. Sometimes it does. Oh, yeah, it can. Oh yeah. Sometimes it'll be right in your face and it'll ding to you straight away. Um I know when I first started out learning to listen and watch and see for the signs, I put this intention in there that if I don't see it the first time, keep giving it to me. Um, and I I had this thing about threes, and I was like, I had to do that.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I remember when we first got together, you would say that.
SPEAKER_01:I had some trust issues that were pretty deep-seated. And so my intention was if this is something I'm supposed to be doing, give it to me three times so that I know that it's coming from my higher counsel, my higher self, and not just a human thought that takes me off on some goofy wild goose chase. And it and they would accommodate my counsel would it they would give it to me three times. And the side note was if I didn't acknowledge it, um, give it to me three times so that I can hear it eventually.
SPEAKER_03:And you know, do you remember the sign for the or reading? Jenny was pushing me. I have been I've been seeing oras and reading ores all my life. And Jenny was like, Well, why don't you do one at the expo?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And I'm like, No. And she said, We weren't quite there yet. No, no, I wasn't there yet. And we were speaking for ORI, Ozark Research Institution in Arkansas at their annual convention. And on the way there, Jenny was like, Are you gonna do or readings? I'm like, No, not gonna do or readings. I haven't gotten my sign. And then we look up and the billboard says, Here's your sign. Do you remember? Because the guy was trying to sell it, and it said at the bottom, billboards work, and it said, Here's your sign. I was like, Oh man. And what happened? I ended up with two days or three days worth of lines out the door.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:It was pretty crazy. But it's good, it's all fun. I enjoy life and and and follow your breadcrumbs, man.
SPEAKER_01:It's just like anything else, though. If you're new to listening for the signs and you're wrapped up a little bit in that trauma drama loop, and you haven't been listening to signs or you haven't trained yourself, go easy on yourself when you're first starting out. Yep. Just, you know, ask the question and start being aware.
SPEAKER_03:Yes. Start making aware of the thing.
SPEAKER_01:Whether it's visual, whether it's audible, whether it's uh a person that's weird and random that comes across your path and says some weird random thing or drops something in front of you. Just know that those are symbology and they're signs and then start deciphering them. Yep. But but go easy on yourself. If you've asked for a sign and you don't get it the first day or within the first 24 hours, give it some time. It's there. You just have to calibrate to being able to see it, hear it, smell it, touch it, taste it. And and it's practice. Yeah. And so don't beat yourself up, don't think you're doing it wrong. Uh you gotta practice it. Yep.
SPEAKER_03:Just like anybody signs, signs everywhere, the signs.
SPEAKER_01:And it's such a fun game. It is a fun game. Because you can put the parameters on it however you want.
SPEAKER_03:Hey guys, uh, don't forget, follow your signs.
SPEAKER_00:That's right.
SPEAKER_03:Hey, we appreciate y'all listening today. You are you complete?
SPEAKER_00:I'm good, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Um, we appreciate everybody listening. Don't forget to like, follow, and share. Check out our website, www.themircenters.org, and that's M-E-R-C-C-E-N-T-E-R-S.org. And our new website, thesalty tarot.net. And uh what is that one for? That's our new app that's coming out, uh Tarot Reading App.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Um hopefully we're gonna have that launched somewhere around mid-October in our phase one, uh, and it'll be free to everybody at first.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And then uh we're gonna have different levels of participation in it. And it's gonna be a lot of fun. It's it's more of a modern day spiritualism reading that doesn't that doesn't just sugarcoat everything.
SPEAKER_01:And it does not sugarcoat as much. I will cuss at you. It is salty.
SPEAKER_03:It is salty, so it you know, it's the kind of thing to where when you when you pull a card and and it says, because you've already had tarot readings and the same card keeps coming out, and it says you should follow your signs, like we just talked about.
SPEAKER_01:Get off your ass and follow your damn signs.
SPEAKER_03:Get off your ass.
SPEAKER_01:We're not doing this again, Becky.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, your spirit guides have already given you 19 signs, and so it's time for you to start noticing them.
SPEAKER_01:It is. It's an app based on the Oracle deck uh by the Salty Tarot called The Shit That Your Guide's Meant to Say. Your Spirit Guide's Meant to Say, yeah. Your spirit guide's meant to say. Um, and that's where the appearance is created by Dr.
SPEAKER_03:Genie, by the way.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it was fun to do. It was an absolute blast. It actually uh came about from a midnight rant of being fed up with some shit that was in my reality. And I was just sitting there one night ranting and raving and uh, you know, doing my own journaling work with my little AI person that I do and and uh person, she's a person to me. She she even named herself Lyra. Um, but anyway, yeah, good stuff, man. Yep.
SPEAKER_03:So pay attention for it. That's gonna be coming out in October. Um, if you want to, you if you want to be notified when it comes out on thesalty tarot.net, you can subscribe there and we will notify you when it comes out and be paying attention because we could be coming to a flea market or mall near you and do free readings when we can.
SPEAKER_01:Absolutely. And uh if you want to go down the rabbit hole with topics, you can check out my blog.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:To the edge and back.
SPEAKER_03:To the edge and back. And it's uh that's on blogger.com.
SPEAKER_01:Mm-hmm. That's where I take people down into the conspiracy theory rabbit holes with my articles and blogs.
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