The Spiritual Grind
Dr. Jenni PhD,RN,CHLC,CH and medium and Rev. James ORD, MhsB have spent countless years studying and practicing many modalities within the "Spiritual" domain. Dr. Jenni has dedicated her life to helping others by attending countless schools and developing each of her practices and strategies. Rev. James has studied many modalities and Native American practices and they have Both decided to open their library of knowledge to share this information with everyone in a down to earth style, with hope to assist in making your journey easier and more abundant.
The Spiritual Grind
Cat-astrophic Honesty: How Dumping Your Baggage Creates Freedom
Standing firm in your convictions doesn't have to come with expectations or emotional baggage. This enlightening conversation reveals the power of authenticity in both personal beliefs and relationships.
When we react from a place of anger or revenge, we create outcomes vastly different than when we act from alignment with our higher selves. The key distinction? Processing your emotions before taking action. Snap decisions rarely serve our highest good, while thoughtful responses rooted in our truth create powerful, positive change.
Our hosts share a remarkable relationship story that defies conventional dating wisdom. Rather than presenting polished versions of themselves, they "dumped all their baggage on the floor" from day one. This radical honesty created a foundation of acceptance that continues to strengthen their partnership years later. It's a powerful reminder that true connection happens when we're brave enough to show up as our unfiltered selves.
Perhaps most liberating is the permission to let your beliefs evolve. As we grow and experience new aspects of life, our perspectives naturally shift. This doesn't make us inconsistent—it makes us human. The courage to update your belief system according to your current understanding is a sign of wisdom, not weakness.
When someone's words or actions trigger you, that's your opportunity for growth. As one host wisely notes, "Whoever the offended party is, they're the one that has the work to do." This perspective shift puts the power back in your hands, transforming potential conflicts into catalysts for self-discovery.
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Thank you. Good morning everyone. Welcome back to the Spiritual Grind and we are in studio today the first time doing video. We are here to be setting up our camera waving at the camera. Good morning, drny in the house. Hey, we uh got a correction. We now have. Our guest speaker. Today is going to be on on the 18th. He verified this morning, so it's not going to be on this podcast, it will be on the next one.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:And it's Philip. His name is Philip and he owns a red light sauna company.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And if you'll look at our last podcast, all his information is on the description of the podcast.
Speaker 2:Right, right, right yeah. Infrared.
Speaker 1:It's a red light sauna of some sort.
Speaker 2:Are you sure it's red light, or is it infrared?
Speaker 1:I don't know. I'll let him tell me.
Speaker 2:We have cat-tastrophe going on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we really do. Our cats are at each other right now.
Speaker 2:We have one hiding over here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I see her.
Speaker 2:And we have one stalking over here stalking over here. So they want to wait until we get on air to act a fool. Play their shenanigans Usually during the day. They already by this time have gone off to their napping hidey holes and we can actually get stuff done. It's like having children.
Speaker 1:Really, because they're for some reason want to fight every day.
Speaker 2:I don't understand why they do Like brothers and sisters and sisters and sisters and brothers and brothers One older sister, one younger sister. Yeah, they're not biological, but they're adopted sisters.
Speaker 1:And they're both being stupid.
Speaker 2:We're doing the high-value treat modification behavioral system.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it seems to be working a little bit. It has calmed down.
Speaker 2:I would agree it is, but it's taking a minute. I would like to see instant change.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But it's taking a minute. So I'll apologize in advance if the editor has to deal with some cat fight that ends up happening in the middle of this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't think she's going to stay right there by our feet until we're done, but anyway, so it brings me to my topic.
Speaker 2:It does.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I have a topic.
Speaker 2:Curiously enough no.
Speaker 1:I don't.
Speaker 2:I usually wait and let you bring the topic.
Speaker 1:Well, my topic is this and it kind of co-mingles with another topic. Okay, and that is. It's okay to stand up for what you believe in.
Speaker 2:Ooh, okay.
Speaker 1:It's okay to you. Know the old catchphrase give me something to believe in. Give me something to believe in.
Speaker 2:Give me something to believe in I think that's a song.
Speaker 1:It is a song, and uh, you know, I heard somebody say one time um, if you don't stand up for something, you'll never stand up at all.
Speaker 2:Oh, I don't believe I've ever heard that.
Speaker 1:And that was actually a professor one time at a lecture that did that. But the part of it is it's okay. It's okay to be who you are and stand up for right and wrong in ethics and morals and and all sorts of. However, what are you, what are you doing? This cat's acting a fool and so, like what brought it up this morning was our little coffee talk session and the fact that it is okay for us to stand up for what we believe in and how we've been treated in the right thing. It is always okay to stand up for the right thing.
Speaker 2:As you can see on the video, he's steadily being whacked in.
Speaker 1:And being cat-whipped.
Speaker 2:By the tail that keeps flickering on the side of his face.
Speaker 1:Can you move on please? But you know we have our situation where we have had some health challenges due to some exposure and setting up for what's right. And we've also had. I've also had another situation that I'm not going to disclose yet that I am looking into within that. That really was because I was always the guy in the situation that was saying this is, hang on, give him a chance, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then something else happened and it was like you know what I'm done.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, I mean, what can be convoluted or tangled up in that is the whole societally programmed. Turn the other cheek mentality. Yes, I agree, turn the other cheek mentality.
Speaker 1:Yes, I agree.
Speaker 2:Be the one who don't lower yourself to their standards. Be the stand-up guy like turn the other cheek.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, and that's where I'm at in all this, do you all see?
Speaker 2:her.
Speaker 1:Oh, you're acting a fool. See, she's stalking yeah. You need to stalk and get the lease to show up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but Cats are a different kind of beast. They are gonna do their own damn thing. Seriously, you're supposed to be a like metaphysical resemblance of being in two different worlds, and I would expect you to be more in tune with your spiritual self.
Speaker 1:Go on Back up. You're not getting on the go somewhere else. Go stalk somewhere else.
Speaker 2:Okay, cat shenanigans.
Speaker 1:Okay, cease, she laid down now Good. And so you know, going through the scenario we went through, you know we have a tendency as humans to hang on to stupid things and do stupid things because we feel like we have been done wrongly. And when we evacuated ourselves it brought a lot of fears up for me.
Speaker 2:Not to be confused with pooping.
Speaker 1:Yes, don't be confused with pooping.
Speaker 2:Wow, that was I'm going to suggest.
Speaker 1:Not doing that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, never do that again. That was ugly.
Speaker 1:But the part of it for me that brought up the fears was that we do the right thing, and I had to reassure myself that you never go wrong doing the right thing.
Speaker 2:Well, and that's right, as long as the intention behind it is equal to that.
Speaker 1:It's pure.
Speaker 2:Right, doing the right thing. If it comes from an energy place of, you know, revenge.
Speaker 1:I drink Pepsi. In case Pepsi wants to sponsor the page.
Speaker 2:Revenge or from an energy of you know, deep anger or hate. If it comes from any of those energy places, when you're doing the right thing air quote, you're doing the right thing, air quote it's going to have a different turnout and it's going to end up much differently than if you are following the. I'm truly honestly aligned with my higher self and I'm doing the right thing energy. Those are two different energies.
Speaker 2:I agree, and so you want to make sure you've dealt with your emotions within it before you act. Because, as we've talked about before, you know, the reality and the universe are frequency-based, energy-based, and if you're putting out that energy, that you're only out for revenge or you're coming from one of those lower frequencies, the situation will turn out much differently than if you're truly coming from a place of.
Speaker 1:Well, the reality is that snappy emotional decisions are generally bad decisions. When you, as long as you handle your emotions, emotions are natural and good, but as long as you handle them, um, that decision becomes easier. And as long as it's not a snap decision, because snappy motions cause you to make decisions that can be viewed as irrational or not in the pure form.
Speaker 2:Right, right and that kind of piggybacks with It'll cause your actions to be different.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because it can marry with revenge, with hostility. When you do those kind of things and when you don't handle your emotions like you said, you can make a snap emotional decision because you want revenge.
Speaker 2:Right and with us, our, our, our outcome will be much different than if you're genuinely doing it from a place of, uh, you know, justice and true justice, finding the place of the right thing.
Speaker 1:Agreed, agreed, and so that what in the within this topic that I think everybody should talk about is is understanding that, no matter what you believe, no matter who you are, as long as you're being pure within yourself, it's okay to stand up for what you believe in, right, you know, like we see it all the time, but you want to remember that you can't necessarily make individuals do anything.
Speaker 2:You can just speak your piece within it. If you're talking about interacting with an individual person, Agreed If you're talking about interacting with a company construct or a corporate construct, then there are judicial things in place that can help you navigate that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2:But you can't make another human being really do anything. So make sure your expectation, if you're doing a one-on-one doing the right thing, you're not doing it from a place of if I do this, it will cause the individual to behave differently situation because they still are, uh, in charge of their own reality and have the free will to do pretty much whatever they want to do within it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, and it is actually. This is actually a mainstream topic right now, going on about what the pronouns and how people want to be identified, and you know who cares. You know who cares. They believe in what?
Speaker 2:they believe. How does that tie in?
Speaker 1:Because they're standing up for what they believe in.
Speaker 2:Oh, I gotcha.
Speaker 1:You know, and so it's a mainstream topic going on is we have, you know, the conversation is they believe what they believe and that's okay, and you can't change anybody else's mind, and nor can the people that don't believe in it be able to change their mind, and that's the human experience, right? You know? The political parties, the religions to everything. It's who cares, who cares. Let people live their life.
Speaker 1:You can choose to be a part of it or not right but if they're standing up for what they believe in, that should tell you something about their morals and their ethics is if they truly believe in something and they're standing up for it, that tells you something about them. That tells you a lot. That tells you that whether you think it's right or wrong that that person is doing something with their life and I think it's a part of the human experience is understanding that a as long as you're standing up for what you believe in in a pure way and not out of an emotional standpoint or with some kind of expectation that you're going to preach the gospel or you're going to make sure that everybody calls you by the right pronoun, that's okay. But just realize you don't control others and that's why we're in this human experience, because everybody can have their own thoughts, patterns, programs, emotions and live the experience together. It's a choice that we can do together.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I agree, and like I often say and will continue to say is, whoever the offended party is, they're the one that has the work to do, whoever, the offended party is. They're the one that has the work to do you know so if I call you the wrong pronoun and you get bothered by it, that's not my baggage, that's yours.
Speaker 1:Correct, you know and.
Speaker 2:I can bring a topic that I have personally and be accountable for it.
Speaker 1:Totally agree.
Speaker 2:You know Is the key takeaway, no matter what it is.
Speaker 1:You know, I've come across this a couple of times and to where people they believe in something purely in their heart, they think this is the right thing, this is the right way, and like, for example, when I became an ordained minister and I was preaching in one of the religious thing, one of the religious uh um, denominations, denominations, and when I got told to do it a certain way, I didn't feel it was right and I stood up for what I believed in and I so I was like, listen, so perhaps this is not for me.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I'm going to stand my ground here Right and if you all choose to join me, that's okay. But I am choosing not to take that on Right and I had no expectations out of it. I walked away. No hard feelings, no fouls, no flags went flying on the field. None of that.
Speaker 2:Right Flags went flying on the field. None of that Right?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, you know, and it's the same thing I did when I was officiating football and I left. You know I retired from it for two reasons A they were changing the rules of it and B, they were putting parameters on the physical expectations of people that were going to. It was going to really thin out their field. Yeah, and I didn't believe in it. You know, I granted, I get it. We had to do the physicals twice a year and go through all that stuff and the making sure we can keep up.
Speaker 2:But I left because I was like you know, I don't want any part of that yeah, you get to make that choice yeah and we all, we all get to make our own choices, that's you all do your thing the way you're going to do it, but I want nothing to do with it right and whenever you you know, in the whole construct of how this multiverse experience uh works as a spirit, having a human experience that's one of the key parts of it is um to that acknowledgement place of A. I get to make my choices.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:And you don't necessarily have to. If you make a choice and there's guilt that comes behind that, the questions need to be okay. Who am I making this choice for? Yes, and why am I still continuing to choose to make the they or them outside of me pleased and happy? Yes, that's what I would look at. Yes, totally when you get to a place where you can make those choices, set boundaries, honor those for yourself, without any kind of feel bad type, title, guilt, shame, any of that. That's the real growth place to get to.
Speaker 1:Agreed, I agree totally.
Speaker 2:And then, not expecting them to necessarily change what they're doing. Yeah, you can have expectations and that would be an additional advancement in the school, so to speak. Yeah, like the graduation to the next grade is, I'm to set my boundary. I am going to react according to your behavior towards that boundary, but I'm not going to do it from a place of expecting you to change what you're doing. I am just going to tend to me.
Speaker 1:That's correct.
Speaker 2:And I am going to make those choices accordingly, and it could be that I remove my so as we video this he's basically doing a Pepsi video commercial.
Speaker 1:No, I drink Pepsi all the time.
Speaker 2:Really, I'm just playing around For those who are just listening and not seeing the video.
Speaker 1:You know, and that you're totally right, because what's going to happen if you put expectations on the other to think the way you think? You're going to be disappointed every single time.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because none of us speak exact or think exactly alike, right, you know, even even Dr Jenny and myself myself, we don't have exact um beliefs on things absolutely not, as a matter of fact, when we have discussions and conversations and coffee talk, there are many times where one or both of us will say, well, we're gonna agree to disagree and leave it at that listen, lady, I ain't going there we try to say it in a little bit more loving way, yeah, we do we agree to disagree, and that's okay yes, it is okay, it is 100 okay.
Speaker 1:Um, and that's one of the reasons why we started doing coffee, talk is to openly to people, because everybody always said how do you all not fight, how do you all not fight, how do you all not argue?
Speaker 2:You know, I think back in the day, honestly, Coffee Talk started because we were teaching each other and ourselves in our relationship how to communicate with each other in a way that each of us could understand, because we were on a journey on trying to figure out what makes up a healthy relationship for us. Yeah, uh, because we both came from uh unique rocky world.
Speaker 2:Rocky world, yeah and the reality that I think we both were at when we met years ago is there's no book you get handed Like you don't get handed the playbook on how to do a relationship. You kind of have to figure it out as you go along, and it's kind of like the spiritual awakening process you figure out what works for you, yeah, and you do that. There's no black and white, do it this way, do it that way, kind of thing.
Speaker 1:Agreed.
Speaker 2:I'm sitting here holding my beautiful quartz crystal sphere. That's one of the things I do to keep my energy frequency elevated on some days so that when I channel information for everybody in the collective and us, that I am at that highest frequency so that whatever entity can come through has the ability to do that.
Speaker 1:I know you hold crystals. I drink Pepsi.
Speaker 2:That's one of the techniques that I use, but that doesn't mean that that technique works for every single person on the planet, and so, as we, you know, guide and and teach along the way. This would be one of the tricks. I say hey, you know what? Test it out, see what it does for you. If it works, great, if it doesn't, toss it in the trash and move on yeah and so I think our coffee talk was kind of that, yes, figuring out, uh fully.
Speaker 1:Each other's languages.
Speaker 2:Yeah, how does this person understand me? How do I need to communicate so that this person clearly understands me?
Speaker 1:And we were both very staunch on standing up for our own self. Yeah, yeah, and that's okay to do. Yeah, I think that was one of the things that really attracted me more was hey, you know, this lady laid it all out here and she's standing up for who she is, and you know what. I think I'm going to accept it just because I never had anybody do that before.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was not a get a flimsy stick and draw a halfway invisible line in the sand.
Speaker 1:Nope.
Speaker 2:I freaking dug a trench and we both did. We both dumped everything yeah, like listen, this is what you're getting yourself into here's all the baggage I'm still carrying, that I am still working with.
Speaker 1:Here's the good, the bad, the ugly, the beautiful like here it is yeah, it was a pretty funny knock down, drag out fight that went on. Wait, I mean this went off like four or five hours. We just both started dumping everything. You don't want to be with me because this right.
Speaker 2:It was almost like we were trying to run the other person off, because I think we were.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think so. That's the truth.
Speaker 2:I think that's exactly what we were doing I think we're both at a place where we weren't out tooling around the planet looking for a relationship.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:We were perfectly comfortable being ourselves within our bubble yeah, and doing it by ourselves.
Speaker 1:I was in the process of refinding myself completely, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and so, therefore, it gave us a different perspective.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and so, therefore, it gave us a different perspective.
Speaker 2:Like you know, sometimes you go into a relationship and your desperation mode kind of kicks in and so you put on that pretty fancy face kind of persona and you hide some of that crap and that doesn't usually work out well, right.
Speaker 1:I agree, some of that crap, and that doesn't usually work out well. Right, I agree, but you want it so bad. You want to behave, so to speak.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that's where everybody puts on their best face when they're relationship. And, boy, we did not Put on your best behavior, put on your best face.
Speaker 1:We took our baggage and just poured it on the floor in front of each other.
Speaker 2:Listen this is what I look like when I get up in the morning my shit stinks, my breath is atrocious till I brush my teeth. I got baggage in all these different directions and I think that it's. I think it's a good thing to do, because then it gives the other person full knowledge full disclosure declassified and they get to make an informed decision on okay, are these things that I can navigate with this person and do I want to? And that's what I think is the beginning of a healthy relationship.
Speaker 1:And I think the bigger part of that is neither one of us expected the other one to say okay.
Speaker 2:Well, I think the bigger part of it was For me was full disclosure and being okay If you said eh. I appreciate your full disclosure, but this is not something I can or want to navigate.
Speaker 1:Let's be friends. Dog Right yeah.
Speaker 2:I think that was the biggest thing for me was coming from that new place of oh my gosh, I don't want to be alone. I want this relationship to work out. Let me keep all my skeletons in my closet. Let me divulge them at just the right time when I've already got him in my clasp Right.
Speaker 2:So this relationship for me. I had evolved and really done some self-study and part of meeting you and came to the realization that you know what I? I'm okay, yeah, whether this one works or whether it doesn't, and so I am gonna be completely, I will survive, right.
Speaker 1:Oh sorry.
Speaker 2:I am going to be completely open and completely upfront and it felt so much better to be that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you don't have to go through life hiding anything.
Speaker 2:That's right. It felt really good not to have to fake in and then do that dumbass dance.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:They just really appreciated that and it was for me. I like I said the um being okay either way.
Speaker 1:Right Yep.
Speaker 2:If you chose to join me on the journey, fine.
Speaker 1:Listen, I got 19 kids, 27 X's, and I owe $100,000. Oh, did I mention I take 14 mental medications?
Speaker 2:And if no, that's true, by the way.
Speaker 1:I got 27 baby mamas and if you, chose not to.
Speaker 2:I was okay as well.
Speaker 1:And that was a new place for me. It was me too. I had not come into a possible relationship from that, you know, I'd actually made that decision in my little self-discovery period where I was single and going through all that stuff and I was like, well, I was going through a divorce but I came to that decision. Like you know what, I am not accepting anybody fake anymore.
Speaker 2:And.
Speaker 1:I am not going to be faking anybody anymore, and I deserve better than that.
Speaker 2:And it's very freeing.
Speaker 1:Yes, I did. You know I did, I did. I had to be myself. It was time for me to be myself and not what everybody expected me to be.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Because that's what I had done over the course of the years. I wasn't standing up for me. I wasn't standing up for what I believed in. Yeah, I wasn't standing up for what I felt was wrong and right. Right I was. I was doing what I thought everybody else expected me to do exactly and, and you know what it fulfilled for me do tell absolutely nothing doing what everybody else expected me to do right exactly now what did when I come into the place to where I changed it and I was like you know what?
Speaker 1:I'm going to stand up for myself. I'm going to be me.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm going to be me. If you don't like it, turn your damn head.
Speaker 2:Or go away.
Speaker 1:Or go away.
Speaker 2:And being okay with that. That's very freeing.
Speaker 1:It has been a phenomenal relationship.
Speaker 2:It has.
Speaker 1:So far and so far, and it's been awesome. You know we've been married now for a few years and together a lot more, and I wouldn't change anything.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't.
Speaker 1:I mean are we perfect? Do we, do we have the perfect cohesive relationship? I would say yes. Do we have human moments in it? 100%.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. We have what's perfect for us. That's correct and and uh.
Speaker 1:I mean, I learned a long time ago what you say, I do, and what you, what you teach, I have to listen to and I just shut up.
Speaker 2:I am the doctor, by the way.
Speaker 1:She always says I did, I'm designer, you're construction, so basically that tells you what, that, what she says goes and it's my, my job to put it in place.
Speaker 2:Your job, to figure it out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I'm okay with that. It works out well because I enjoy building things.
Speaker 2:So right like last night for supper, I was hungry for tomato soup and grilled cheese. Yeah, and he keep asking me okay, well, do you want this, do you want that? How many slices of cheese you want? I'm like you're the previous you're the chef yeah, can you just effing figure it out. I was like yes, ma'am, I'm sorry like why are you asking me all these questions?
Speaker 1:well, because I've made grilled cheese before and you said it was too cheesy.
Speaker 2:That's why just make it, for goodness sake no, in all reality, it's uh.
Speaker 1:We boasted it for ourselves and that's what I'm we're teaching everybody in this podcast today. It is 100 okay to stand up for what you believe in, develop your beliefs, stand up for them and continue to uh cultivate them cultivate them and honor them and let them grow.
Speaker 1:And and you know, and what I would say on the flip side of that is, if something, somebody, brings something up to you that you don't resonate with you, and it is okay for you to say, listen, I'm a cup of tea today, but I would still stop and look at it and see what the world is trying to bring to your attention.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because there's always opportunities for mirroring.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:And what that by definition. What that means is that your reality is always mirroring something back to you. Yes, that you can learn from.
Speaker 1:Agreed. And don't you talk about mirroring in your book? I do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, scripted from within.
Speaker 1:It's out on Amazon. You can get it at Amazon or KDP. It's soon to be on Audible.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Scripted from within.
Speaker 2:It's a nice quick little read.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You can see it's not too beefy.
Speaker 1:No, not too beefy, just a good little handbook.
Speaker 2:Get through it.
Speaker 1:I would suggest reading one chapter at a time, making your notes that's included in there, and then read the second chapter and then go back and review first and second. You know this is this is one of those books that you need to read one, two. Go back and read one, two, then three, then read two, three, four and kind of go back through and skip through it.
Speaker 2:And because it uh I would agree, it's, definitely it's a study guide really study cat.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's uh interactive and I expected it to be more than that because, man, the manuscript was much longer, but when you put it in print, it shrinks it down yeah it was crazy. It's like 70, what? Uh? No, 105 pages, I think I don't know, because the page numbers got taken off somewhere. I don't know actually how many pages it is, but you can get get it on KDP for $15.89. Oh, I'm sorry, on Amazon for $15.89 or on KDP for $9.99.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, the page numbers are on the manuscript but somehow, when we ordered it and got it in print, there was no page numbers in it. They are written in invisible. No, I did screw up when I cause I edited it Invisible ink, I think.
Speaker 1:I, I, you know I may have, I may have colored the page numbers wrong or something and they just didn't come out, but cause I did the editing on it, it was me and and I did not put page numbers on the index, right, but I did put them in the book and that's okay. I screwed it up, that's all right. We'll learn. We'll do it better next time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that's the thing is you know that was one of the coffee talks we had yesterday. Yeah, and that's a nice reminder is taking action doesn't mean doing it perfectly. It means put yourself out there, take action and remember that nothing is not fixable. You can't fuck it up.
Speaker 1:Anyway. So the topic of this podcast and she was just talking about that is that you kind of marry together and just know that it is okay Any way, shape or form as long as you you stand up and you believe in things and you want to defend those things and you want to be a part of those things and you want to spread it across the world, that is okay to do. Just don't have the expectations of others, because those expectations are going to disappoint you every single time. You may find some of your people that agree with you and they're going to jump in there and they're going to do it with you, but you're going to find people that don't, and so you have to free the expectations and the emotions behind it, cause when you start interjecting emotions into expectations, you end up with bad, bad things happening.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't say bad, bad, they're just going to be a reality that you wouldn't have necessarily otherwise wanted to be a part of.
Speaker 1:Correct.
Speaker 2:I mean I think bad, bad, bad is a little bit of an over embellishment. I mean, unless of course you go out and murder somebody, then that's not going to be very pleasant at all.
Speaker 1:Right, but hey, you know what I like.
Speaker 2:Oh, dear God, please, where are you taking us with?
Speaker 1:that I've been watching that show Wednesday.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I've been enjoying that show. Wednesday Addams.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the Wednesday Addams show they made a series out of it. Yeah. Season one season two yeah, season two just came out.
Speaker 2:It's a seasonal little thing.
Speaker 1:I'm really enjoying it.
Speaker 2:It is kind of a fun little.
Speaker 1:I sit here all morning watching it and didn't get anything accomplished.
Speaker 2:The premise behind it is she's kind of like an investigator.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she would be a magical investigator, murder mystery crossover into the magical world.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:I mean Hark, the Raven, nevermore, and they have magical powers. There's got to be something to that, because the school she goes to is called Nevermore, the dance they went to is called the Raven, and then these ravens keep showing up in the thing. There's got to be something to that with the Edgar Allen Poe thing. Of course, coming up somewhere in there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if I remember correctly, she says somewhere along the way, even in the movie, or somewhere something about liking.
Speaker 1:Edgar Allen Poe and his works or something. Nice. It was a good book actually.
Speaker 2:Edgar Allan Poe or the Adams family.
Speaker 1:No, edgar Allan Poe's work. Oh yeah, he had. He had a few books, but I'm trying to remember the name of that book, now that you I said that because it was a poem, that book, now that I said that Because it was a poem Hark the Raven, nevermore, hark the Raven, nevermore, what was that that came out? I'll have to look it up.
Speaker 2:Anyway, well, have the listeners look it up and send us a message.
Speaker 1:Yeah, send us a message on that, because I can't remember the name of that. It was a poem. I believe actually that he wrote.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So just to recap, it is perfectly okay to put your boundaries in place and honor those boundaries and not let people cross those boundaries.
Speaker 1:That is correct.
Speaker 2:It is okay to stand up for what you believe in, even if your beliefs change the very next day. That is okay too. Some people feel like they have to carry a belief with them until the end of time. Yes, and you don't.
Speaker 1:That's right, because things change, humans change, situations change.
Speaker 2:You experience a situation under the premise of this belief, and when you're done with that experience and you're ready to move on to the next mission or experience, those beliefs may not benefit you. And so you have to upgrade your belief system in order to have a really authentic experience with the next part of the journey. So it's okay for your beliefs to change from day to day, moment to moment minute to minute, but the key is honoring those.
Speaker 2:Don't let people, situations or events cause you to veer from that. If that's what you're doing at the moment, stand up for it and it's perfectly okay, but do it from the right intention that's correct? Well, I think you're the one that gets offended it's on you situation.
Speaker 1:That's your baggage pick up that coin and flip it.
Speaker 2:offended in a situation, that's your baggage Pick up that coin and flip it, because it's your baggage. That's your reality saying to you. You might want to look at this one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I agree. Yeah, well, I feel pretty complete.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, I think it's a good place to cut her off man.
Speaker 1:Listen, we have multiple things going on in our life and in our business here, and one of the things is we have a store coming out for merch. It's going to have some merchandise in it that's related to the podcast and it's also going to have some merchandise related to Jenny's Oracle card deck called the salty tarot, yeah it is the shit your spirit guides wanted to tell you. Yeah, or meant it's meant to say is what it says, and we're working on some, some exclusive deals and some other things going on outside.
Speaker 2:Those are really fun to do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's going to be. It's going to be a fun. And don't forget to check out our website, wwwthemerchcentersorg. That's m-e-r-c-c-e-n-t-e-r-s and put the d in front of it. And our youtube channel for the spiritual grind is at the spiritual grind now?
Speaker 2:um, yeah, because we're going to start doing video. Yeah, today's the practice run, so we can kind of see what our equipment's doing.
Speaker 1:This is why I'm kind of making this a little shorter, so I have a whole lot less to work with. Yeah, but what?
Speaker 2:So we can get ready to do.
Speaker 1:We got our kudos. We got our kudos from Buzzsprout.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and we put out our 75th episode.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:And now we're going video Fun, fun, fun. Put out our 75th episode, right and uh, now we're going video fun, fun. Yeah, it's going to be a good thing. Yeah, and we're averaging quite a few downloads. It's growing. Y'all keep sharing it. Share it with your friends, um, put it out there for us right exactly um, anyway, I feel complete, do you feel complete? Yeah, I'm good hey guys, don't forget to like, follow, follow and share and ring that bell. Y'all have an awesome day.
Speaker 2:Love ya Take care.
