The Spiritual Grind
Dr. Jenni PhD,RN,CHLC,CH and medium and Rev. James ORD, MhsB have spent countless years studying and practicing many modalities within the "Spiritual" domain. Dr. Jenni has dedicated her life to helping others by attending countless schools and developing each of her practices and strategies. Rev. James has studied many modalities and Native American practices and they have Both decided to open their library of knowledge to share this information with everyone in a down to earth style, with hope to assist in making your journey easier and more abundant.
The Spiritual Grind
From Toxic Environments to Personal Empowerment: A Journey of Healing
When your health begins deteriorating without explanation and medical professionals can't pinpoint the cause, what happens when you finally discover that your home and workplace are slowly poisoning you? This raw, candid conversation takes you through our harrowing journey of confronting toxic mold exposure and the painful decisions that followed.
For years, we allowed fear to keep us trapped in an unhealthy environment – fear of financial insecurity, fear of others' judgments, and fear of the unknown. We share the moment when medical necessity forced us to make the impossible choice: continue deteriorating in a toxic space or walk away from our home, jobs, and most of our possessions. The resulting journey revealed not just the physical toll of environmental toxicity, but also the emotional challenges of discovering who truly values you when you can no longer provide what they want.
This deeply personal episode explores the profound transformation that occurs when you reclaim control of your reality despite overwhelming fears. We discuss the unseen battle millions face with environmental illness, particularly mold toxicity, which remains widely misunderstood and underdiagnosed. Our story serves as both warning and inspiration – showing how seemingly small decisions about where we live and work can have devastating health consequences, while demonstrating the resilience that emerges when we finally choose ourselves.
Join us as we reveal upcoming projects designed to support others on similar journeys, including our new book "Scripted From Within," oracle cards, guided meditations, and our "Granny Grimoire" spell collection. Whether you're facing health challenges, stuck in limiting beliefs, or simply seeking permission to make a difficult change, this conversation offers validation and courage to take that first step toward reclaiming your own reality.
Thank you. Good morning everybody. Welcome back to the Spiritual Grind. We are in studio again creating a podcast, unfiltered, uncensored. Today.
Speaker 2:Good morning.
Speaker 1:We have now relocated to the eastern side of Florida and are producing and taking control of our reality. Dun, dun dun.
Speaker 2:Hey, we got Baby Yoda in the house, we do.
Speaker 1:We have a little Baby Yoda, we have a couple of them.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Grogu.
Speaker 2:They're hanging out. Yeah, grogu.
Speaker 1:They're hanging out Grogu.
Speaker 2:Grogu Goo Grow.
Speaker 1:Thank you all for listening and tuning in. We are here today to talk about controlling or mastering our reality, because our realities are what we make of them and our human has a tendency to allow them to get a control on our belief systems, and we get off track sometimes and you have to take control of your reality and quit allowing things, and that's what my topic is today.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Do you like the topic?
Speaker 2:I like any topic.
Speaker 1:My thought process is on. It is I myself allowed my human belief system to control my reality too long, and we just recently took that back, because the reality is pretty simple. We were in a environment that was not healthy, that was creating literally human health problems, and I allowed that to go on way too long why do you think you did that? Because of my beliefs, a fear, fear of financial issues, a fear of people's opinion of me.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:And I came to the realization that and this was a thing that came to me two or three days ago was I was so concerned about what they think of me, but when we removed ourselves from the situation, I found out how they truly think of us anyway.
Speaker 2:Right, right. Yeah, that's one of the. I mean, I think that's a very good topic right there, because sometimes what happens is we tell ourselves a story of what other?
Speaker 1:people. Let's call it what it is it's a lie Okay. We tell ourselves lies we do.
Speaker 2:We do. You're right. I was trying not to be so heavy, but you're right. I mean, generally speaking, as the salty tarot, I will call you out on a bullshit lie, and that's what we do. We tell ourselves these stories that are full-on unverified lies of and it could be good lies, it could be bad lies. You know, and just like you brought to the table, you thought that this a viewpoint or perception that was positive and and valued, as us, as a team, and the reality is fucking liars the reality is that when you make a stand for what you believe in, or justice, or whatever, whatever that is, the true color of those people around you will reveal itself.
Speaker 1:Well, you know, there's no faux pas out there too. That says, when you want to know who your true friends are, change life and you'll find out who your true friends are.
Speaker 2:That's right. That's right and that goes along with anything, not just a reality that you've created. You know we teach that that whenever you're going through even your awakening process and you're changing your vibrational frequency from heavy to lighter to lighter, correct, your circle of people will change because they are not willing to go through the metamorphosis of change with you and they choose to stay at that lower frequency, and so you'll part ways.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:And that goes with any kind of relationship, be it an intimate one, be it a friend, be it a relationship with your employer. Um, you know, those are all types of relationships.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:And they will change.
Speaker 1:They do and you find out who your friends are within it. You know, I spent my entire last six years of my life thinking I was developing professional status.
Speaker 2:A reputation, a reputation professionally Right.
Speaker 1:And come to find out that that reputation that I thought I was building was not what I was building that I thought I was building was not what I was building, and you know there is situations that have come up within it that exposed to me the value that I thought we had wasn't there.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:And then we were just being used. Call it what it is, that they were using us, because they— For their own agenda For their own agenda and we created things that they, they brought into play. We taught people, we trained people how to do what we do. Yeah, and because it was very, very, very successful right and and valuable to them and valuable to them and they made a lot of money doing it. But we, they did not value us.
Speaker 2:Right yeah, I mean they valued what we created. Essentially, we had to walk away, medically, yes, and we lost everything, or 95% of everything.
Speaker 1:We haven't lost anything yet, but and I don't, I just say from the material world Right.
Speaker 2:You know, and I just say from the material world. Right, you know, and you know I understand. What you're trying to say is we haven't lost anything, We've gained our value system and we've gained our health. Gradually it's coming back and our mental and we're going through healing processes of a lot of trauma that we experienced physically, mentally and emotionally within that journey. But on a human perspective, we lost our home.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:We lost our job. Yeah, we lost our personal belongings A lot of them. Um, you know, we lost a lot in and making that health decision that our that was guided by our doctor saying that if we didn't remove ourselves from the toxic environment that we were being exposed to, that we would not heal as quickly or even maybe at all if we didn't remove ourselves correct, and that was a. That was just that little piece of that journey was very, very challenging.
Speaker 2:I mean, we waited four weeks to even take that step because it it you know because they kept selling me they they were selling me oh well, but it also had a lot of impact on you know, we had to release attachment to the personal belongings, the thought of a home, the thought of a job which we're programmed to believe that okay, if you've got your job, then at least you can make a living financially and everything is okay. And so to have to get to a place where you are allowing yourself to release attachment to all of that paradigm, programming, matrix of how society programs us and trusting in your higher self, I mean, that is not for the weak at heart, it's not.
Speaker 1:It is absolutely not.
Speaker 2:And it's still. You know, there's day by day. It's just kind of right now it's, it's, it's a day by day thing.
Speaker 1:so it is we'll get into more detail.
Speaker 2:We, I feel like we are gonna, you know, I feel like we'll make another podcast series oh yeah, in a different genre, um, because what we're talking about is mold exposure and how it impacted us physically, and then the emotional journey that we went in with it. And we do want to get the word out about how, uh, dangerous mold can be, because I never knew they honestly never knew that it could have that effect on the physical body.
Speaker 1:I agree.
Speaker 2:I feel like we'll do a podcast and maybe another genre, totally Bring awareness to it, bringing that awareness.
Speaker 1:Because this journey didn't start with just mold.
Speaker 2:Well, right, exactly.
Speaker 1:I drank non-potable water for months before I was told it was non-potable, and that's where my health issue started well, mine as well, because I was rinsing my fruit in it I was making hot tea with it I know we were making a pot of coffee when we got told about it right, exactly what three months into the journey for two months, whatever it was, I don't even remember right, but we were told oh, my god, you're not drinking, that are you?
Speaker 1:yeah, we have been for a minute and I've been rinsing my salad in it you've been drinking it I was making bottles of water because, remember, I started feeling bad and I went to the gym yeah, I was making bottles of water out of it.
Speaker 2:Right, well, and so were all the employees when they were going to the building, and Pretty craziness really.
Speaker 1:And yeah, so we found out that that water was attached to the lawn sprinkler system.
Speaker 2:Right In the trailer.
Speaker 1:In the construction trailer and it just the journey starts from there. Well, you know, we can't really talk about a whole lot of it, but I will tell you this that taking back control of this reality for me was the overcoming the fears of all of it was not an easy step, Because it's fears, it's complete fear, Because I mean we were making good money.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we were making good money. Yeah, we were. And I mean, you know, it's not a hard job when all the pieces and parts are in place and all the processes are in place the way that you and I do it when you're healthy and when the environment is non-toxic. It's not a challenging, difficult job for the most part, if you do it the way that you and I do we did it very successfully before we went to this right, we.
Speaker 2:we had our system in place and had it on total lockdown and it's repeatable because we went to this building the same thing and were even more successful. Yep, and but whenever you add in exposure.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And physically not feeling well. On top of all of that, then it makes a tough journey.
Speaker 1:It was an emotional rollercoaster for me. I mean there was at one point I thought I had throat cancer. There was Right. I mean it was insane. The doctors couldn't tell us what was wrong. Yeah, um, we, I, we. I mean thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars in supplements and iv joints and going to these things trying to figure just to feel better yeah, and then doctors visits and modern medicine prescriptions and going through the witch hunt of trying to figure out what was making us not feel good and the testing, of trying to figure out what it is.
Speaker 2:that's not right Something is not right.
Speaker 1:Something wasn't right, yeah.
Speaker 2:And so we did, all of you know, we did all these different testings on the air and the water, and this and that and all of that came out of our pocket. Oh yeah, you know we were trying we always try to do the right thing and we always tried.
Speaker 2:I didn't want to make blind accusations that's right, that's right and that's what I've always told people is, once we get to a place where we are voicing it, we have done our due diligence correct, and we don't open our mouth until we know that what's coming out of our mouth has been validated and basically proven correct, because we're not about that. What?
Speaker 1:what is?
Speaker 2:that we're not about crying wolf right.
Speaker 1:Right, right, totally.
Speaker 2:So if we take the time to verbalize it, then that means that we have done the research.
Speaker 1:Totally.
Speaker 2:And collected the data that supports our accusation.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I did not want to ever create problems without doing it myself, but it was just amazing to me how many different factors that we exposed within the that you know, and so it just even just added to the confusion yeah, well, I think too, if we go a little bit more spiritual with it and more in the line of belief systems which is what I work with what it was able to do on a positive note, if we take and make a little bit of a positive spin about it is it was able to allow us the platform to rise up and bring up beliefs that we didn't really know were there, um, and kind of uncover that next layer yeah of the different fears within a job, for example, or within an environment, that uh just different fears throughout, and we, you know.
Speaker 2:Part of the podcast is getting people to understand that working with your beliefs, patterns and programs can change your reality, but the other part of it for me is sharing my personal stories, because we're not some immortal gurus. Is it mortal or immortal?
Speaker 1:immortal, immortal yeah superheroes that we are mortal just like everybody else.
Speaker 2:That's right, yeah we're human, just like everybody else, and we have our own stuff that goes on in our reality as well yeah and so sharing that, I hope, helps people to realize and understand that the things that we are giving the nuggets, the little morsels of information of you know, try this or try that or look at this belief are usually because we've experienced them ourselves firsthand, and the techniques that we give as suggestions are things that we've utilized, that we're Able to help us along the way of our experience in it.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:We're not sitting here preaching some concept that we think might work or that we think is possibly what's going on. It's that we live and breathe the actual concepts that we are putting out there for people.
Speaker 1:Right, and we too come across things that we haven't faced before.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:And we, just you know, we're those people that will continue to try until we find the solution, or find, you know, which is why we did the testing, why we checked in spiritually, why we went through all this stuff, which is why we did the testing, why we checked in spiritually, why we went through all this stuff. And, like I told somebody the other day, sometimes to create change you have to do something dramatic.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's right, you've got to be the you know we're. I would say we are not followers, we're definitely leaders in that. And we're the kind of people that if somebody says you know, if you jump off of the ledge, this and this and this will happen, we're the kind of people that say, okay, you know what, let's set up an experiment, let's go jump off the ledge and let's see what happens, so that we can come back and tell the story of what really happens not guess.
Speaker 2:I would agree with that statement and sometimes we have to be the individual that does that off the wall, catch you by surprise action, to speak loud enough for people to get their attention to create the change to right to be the change that you want to see. And, um, you know that's how we you and I work we agree we work constantly to be the change and sometimes with that does come some unpleasantries.
Speaker 1:You know people say you're uh, what do they say about you? You're arrogant, or?
Speaker 2:um, whatever. And that's not being arrogant, it's being assertive and being confident in knowing that we know what we're doing and we've got the life experiences to back it. Yes, and the knowledge.
Speaker 1:Man, I have had a life and I've done a lot of things in my life and I have overcome adversity so many times in my life. Yeah've uh I have overcome adversity so many times in my life yeah, and what amazing resource.
Speaker 1:Of life experience yeah, and and that's what I think is one of the things that helped empower me for this change is not listening to the bullcrap that people want to because because they haven't lived a life you know they want to make. They want to pass crap that people want to because because they haven't lived a life you know they want to make, they want to pass judgment and they and they want to try to portray you as being dishonest, right Like cause. That's been one of the things in my life I've come across. A lot People think I'm being dishonest and I am 100% being genuine and honest.
Speaker 2:Right yeah.
Speaker 1:And because they don't believe it, because they haven't done it themselves.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:And I have been through a lot. We get that a lot, both of us A lot.
Speaker 2:We've done so many different things. Because we live large, we're not afraid to go and do something different or, on a spin of a dime, change our entire life to make a statement or just for change, and so therefore, it's afforded us at a very young age to have lots of things on our resume, lots of life experiences under our belt. And people don't live that way traditionally, and so when we go to share our stories about all the things that we've done already in our life, they do, they look at us like oh, you're making that shit up because there ain't no way somebody's done all that shit. And you know, we're living proof. And I myself, I've just come to a place where I don't really give a F. I don't care if you believe me or not. I have information in my head. If you want it, if you don't, then happy trails, buddy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, beat feet. Beat feet and get out of my face and the crazy part about it is those people that we have, over the years, influenced, and they don't even realize that we've influenced them right, yeah and changed them in ways that they don't have have any clue because they haven't recognized it yet. Right, you know, um, especially with my previous career as a chef, cook and owner, I have influenced so many people in my life just by telling them that that it changes their perspective and changes their actions.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:And they become better at what they do, not because of what I taught them, but because of the challenge I've just laid in front of them.
Speaker 2:Right. It brings them to a place of self-awareness.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:And they begin to look at and evaluate what they're doing within it.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:And that is a very valuable place of learning is whenever you can come to a place of investigating your own self yes and deciding what you want to do to be the change that you wish would happen. That's where true I think, evolution comes from you know, and that's it.
Speaker 1:It's always funny to watch too because, like like, for example, in where we just left, we did create a very, very, very successful uh business in a way that nobody else has done it before, that created a lot of profit, but yet nobody can stop. Not once did anybody stop and say, hmm, maybe that stuff is true.
Speaker 2:Right, exactly.
Speaker 1:Because I mean obviously because it's. I mean you don't do that kind of stuff with not knowing what you're doing.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:That doesn't happen. You don't create success out of your backside Right. You create success out of hard work and experience and successful ways of doing the things.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't say that you create success just out of hard work. No, no, no you create success out of not being afraid to go out and do things and try Right Go out and do things.
Speaker 1:And try.
Speaker 2:Right, that's what success actually to me is. It's not out of going and busting your nuts and sweating and bleeding and all of that necessarily.
Speaker 1:Well, that's a result of trying.
Speaker 2:Some of that is in play, depending on what you decide to do, but I think the key part of that is not letting fear keep you from trying something.
Speaker 1:Agreed.
Speaker 2:Put yourself out there and just try it.
Speaker 1:What's it going to hurt?
Speaker 2:What's it going to hurt?
Speaker 1:Without failure, you don't know what success feels like.
Speaker 2:Right and God forbid, you should actually accomplish it. How good does that feel? Because that really feels, oh yeah, when you try something that works go try something and you figure out how to make it work, and then it's repeatable yeah, it feels really good. It's a really good feeling I agree to do that.
Speaker 2:I agree with that statement completely that is success to me is not letting the fears and the unknowns prevent you from even trying it in the first place. Telling yourself that monkey mind lie of oh, it's not gonna work anyways, or I can't really do that, or whatever those dumb ass stories are that you're telling yourself that keep you sitting on the couch not doing it.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Put yourself out there and just freaking, try it, man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 2:See where it takes you, you know, and that's what we you and I, both what we've done prior to meeting each other and then being in our life together. We just throw it out there and see what lands and what sticks.
Speaker 1:Like checking a spaghetti noodle.
Speaker 2:Then evaluating it to see if we want to continue to do it what parts of it do we? Process and change, or, if we don't want to continue doing it, putting it aside and doing something different. I think that's another key part of it, too is allowing yourself to say okay, I put that out there, I tried it, but what I realized is, in trying it, it really didn't bring me joy.
Speaker 1:Agreed.
Speaker 2:So I'm going to chalk that up as okay. Now I know that I don't really like that. I just thought I did Right and being able to walk away from it without punishing yourself agreed, and then going on to try the next thing. Because a lot of times what I see is is that people will go ahead and get past the fear and try something and then it's not all. They had mentally, yeah, designed it to be, or it didn't it.
Speaker 2:It wasn't what they thought it would be right and then they feel like they either have to continue doing it because they spent money on it, or they think that people are going to view them as lazy or failures, and so giving themselves permission to set it aside and say, okay, I tried it, not really working for me, and moving on to the next thing giving yourself permission to do that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, to try.
Speaker 2:Is a very key component without the criticism, without the self-judgment and without worrying about what the they thinks about it.
Speaker 1:Agreed, you know that's the. You know what stops people from trying self-judgment and without worrying about what the day thinks about it. Agreed, you know that's the the. You know what stops people from trying is is societal top beliefs or fear.
Speaker 1:I would agree with that you know that you get taught Like. I remember when we were in high school and I went through a personal development class and the very first thing that he taught us was being stagnant is the worst thing that you can do. If you're working a job and you're not applying for jobs to improve yourself, then you're screwing up. If you're not challenging yourself on a daily basis to do something different, then you're screwing up. And that's the same thing in the human world as it is in the spiritual world.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean yeah. The only thing really that you can depend on is change.
Speaker 1:That's correct, because everything changes. Everything changes, including you and everybody around you, the world, everything changes.
Speaker 2:Well, and the reality is that if we didn't have change, we would actually become bored oh, yeah, totally but then there's a lot of people that say, oh, I don't do well with change, I don't like change, I don't want change, I want everything to stay exactly the same. But if things didn't change somewhat, then everybody would walk around here being bored out of their mind.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, even the human race changes.
Speaker 2:Otherwise, we would all have the same kind of clothes, we would all have the same shoes, the same hairstyle and we would wear the same uniform every single day.
Speaker 1:I agree single day, like if we didn't want change.
Speaker 2:If we didn't like change on some level, it's some some aspect of change. There would be no reason to have different types of clothes, different types of cars I totally agree different personalities, so there's a piece of us that enjoys change.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, totally.
Speaker 2:It's just that whenever big change comes about, that makes us uncomfortable.
Speaker 1:It's a tough place to be sometimes.
Speaker 2:It's not always an easy jump to make.
Speaker 1:But I don't think I've ever created change and not been happy with the change eventually.
Speaker 2:Well, I can say that there have been times where I've created change and I I personally tried, you know, a few different things and it wasn't what it was cracked up to be. And I was like, yeah, that's why I brought that up. Yeah, because I've done that personally, I would. I went and tried something and I'm yeah, this is not what I thought it was. So let's change the channel, because I do not want to do that anymore. Kind of like the truck driving yeah, I had this whole mental vision that it was going to be. Hey, let's go travel the world.
Speaker 1:And get paid for it, and get paid to do it yeah, you do. You get right. You get paid to see the world, but you're doing it at 70 mile an hour down the highway.
Speaker 2:Well, not only that, but you're going in towns well, yeah, but even when you go to drop a load, you're on the outskirts in the industrial part of it. You don't get to go see the culture or any of that like true vacationing. Traveling is.
Speaker 1:Like when we went through St Louis and we were like, oh, we can see the arch, nope, nope, we were like 20, 30 miles from it. It was like this little bitty thing way off in the distance. I was like, well, that was anticlimactic.
Speaker 2:Yeah. No, this is not quite what I had hoped it to be, so I'm ready to change that. I mean, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1:We saw some beautiful areas like the bowl they call it up in. I think it was Idaho or North Dakota.
Speaker 2:North Dakota.
Speaker 1:When we went through up there, that beautiful area, that's like this you're surrounded in mountains and it's in a plateau.
Speaker 2:It was like 120 miles. Yeah, we saw some really beautiful scenery, yeah, and live, I mean animals everywhere.
Speaker 1:It was insane.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:There was one night we were coming through the mountains and I had to actually stop and work my way through the elk standing in the road, because there was a whole herd just standing in the middle of the road.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I think that was a whole herd just standing in the middle of the road. Yeah, yeah, I think that was a moment where I realized, oh my god, these bastards are big. Yeah they're. I didn't realize, I've never been around an elk and so I didn't really realize the um size of them, size and magnitude of how big they were until I'm sitting in a semi and their head, literally is looking in the window eye to eye with me over the hood.
Speaker 2:I'm like holy bejesus man, you're a big bastard yeah, moose, the same way.
Speaker 1:There's a couple moose up there in north dakota on that road that they're just monstrous. Man, yeah, yeah, but it was pretty crazy, yeah, we did have.
Speaker 2:We had some moments where it was nice scenery, but I decided real quick that, yeah, it's not. This is not a career I want.
Speaker 1:This is not for me.
Speaker 2:And so, yeah, there's times where, hey, mad respect to the truck drivers, though Mad respect to those guys that work it every day. Yeah, shout out to the truck drivers, because I don't.
Speaker 1:Because it's a hard test is not an easy not an easy task, absolutely. I mean, yes, we both passed it, some passed it before the others, but it was a journey of man.
Speaker 2:You had a lot of stuff to remember, oh nothing. Are you trying to imply that you passed yours before I passed mine?
Speaker 1:I wasn't implying nothing. That's what happened.
Speaker 2:That's what I heard.
Speaker 1:But you had a good excuse you had the flu.
Speaker 2:Let me break it down for you, ladies, and gents, you got lucky though. I got through almost the entire thing, yeah you had one thing left With 102 temperature, from having freaking pneumonia or bronchitis or something.
Speaker 1:I don't even know, but you were sick as hell.
Speaker 2:I was sick as a freaking dog while I was trying to do my damn test. My fever was so high that I couldn't even. My vision was blurry and I got down to the last part of the test and I'm like, and I had the blindside 90, which is the hardest parking maneuver.
Speaker 1:And I couldn't even think straight.
Speaker 2:I could not even think my way out of this Tetris freaking puzzle, and so I did a couple of attempts and I'm like I cannot even do this.
Speaker 1:No, you didn't, you only did it once.
Speaker 2:I see, I don't even remember because my fever was so high.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I was watching. I was like, oh, she got this because you had it nailed. All you had to do was do the little pull forward. Did you get one pull forward?
Speaker 2:Yeah nailed.
Speaker 1:All you had to do was do the little pull forward, because you get one pull forward, yeah, you can. All you had to do was pull forward and you were in there and I was like, oh, she's gonna get it, she's got it. And then I heard the horn knock. I was like what the hell just happened I'm telling you, I was so.
Speaker 2:My vision was so blurry my mind was not right because the fever was so high I was like, because then you have to go do a driving test on the road, and I'm thinking about all that.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm like there's no way I can do this. I just got it, I got to tap, I got to tap out man. And it made me have to go redo the whole thing Even the instructor was like oh my God, I don't know what happened Because she came in before you did.
Speaker 1:She was like I don't know what just happened. It was because I literally could not think straight through the fever.
Speaker 2:That was what I was like what'd she say? She's like she just said I'm done and and I was like, oh okay, I can't, I just couldn't. Yeah, not, the fever wasn't letting me, but on the other side of that too.
Speaker 1:We were also doing that in the middle of winter yeah and it was like freezing cold outside down the yard learning in missouri, yeah. And it was like freezing cold outside down the yard. Learning in missouri yeah and it was crazy. It was a it was a crazy scenario, but anyway.
Speaker 1:So we did that for a year and we hated it for the most part, we hated it yeah, I mean, don't get me wrong, do off-school courses and learning to drive the truck and backing and stuff. That was fun. I enjoyed that. I became the yard dog. I got to move all the after I passed all my yard stuff. They let me have moved the trucks for all the new students all the every day.
Speaker 2:So right you do a teacher's pet I didn't become teacher's pet.
Speaker 1:Ridiculous. He wanted me to show people how to do the blindside parallel because I did it so good, right, and I did for a while. I did for like the last. What two weeks on the yard.
Speaker 2:Yeah. But it was a good time Well because you had already passed, and so we were there a little longer because I tapped out and I had to go back to the yard and practice.
Speaker 1:What 10 days, I think it was, While I waited for my next scheduled appointment to retest? Yeah, and I just went and hung out on the yard because I had already passed my test.
Speaker 2:Right, exactly, and so you kind of became like the teacher's aide.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was okay with that.
Speaker 2:It gave me something to do. Yeah, it was fun.
Speaker 1:Until they made me leave the yard. Yeah, but that was only what. Two days.
Speaker 2:That was a fun journey.
Speaker 1:It was, it was fun.
Speaker 2:There were parts of it that were challenging, but yeah, the decision on that not being my job was a no-brainer, not a hard decision. Yeah, no.
Speaker 1:Anyway. So we're talking about today. You know these are all examples of how being able to control and take over your reality is okay to do Right and make the decision to overcome fear, overcome the emotional roller coasters Because our last four years have been an emotional roller coaster for us and specifically for me and my thought processes behind. A lot of things in life changed, and I would say for the better, yeah, and which I am appreciative of the journey, because I understand now that this world is way different than it was even just 15 years ago well, I mean by design and I agree it's's changed, and so the emotional rollercoaster of it exposed to me a lot of the weaknesses that I had in my own belief system.
Speaker 2:I mean I wouldn't say weaknesses, I mean just what it did is it peeled back more of the layers, of the aspects that you were ready to listen to, look at and let go of. I agree, so that you could evolve into the next best version of yourself.
Speaker 1:Agreed.
Speaker 2:And that's really what the whole game is about, honestly.
Speaker 1:Yep.
Speaker 2:That's what we came for.
Speaker 1:And for those of you out there that are listening to us that wonder what happened we left because we had a doctor's order to leave.
Speaker 2:From mold toxicity From mold toxicity.
Speaker 1:Yep, I want to make sure that everybody understands that.
Speaker 2:We didn't leave voluntarily.
Speaker 1:Well, actually let me rephrase that to be technical Yours was mold toxicity, Mine was chronic fungal infection because of mold.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:And so, because of mold, inhaling mold exposure, I'm a mouth breather at night and I think that has something to do with it maybe um, but anyway. So, but we took back over our reality and created. We're creating change by creating change yeah within us, and that's where, that's where our the purpose of our exit was.
Speaker 2:Right, it was a medical necessity. That's right In order to physically get well and mentally and emotionally get well, so that we could continue to journey on man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2:And we had to make some challenging choices.
Speaker 1:Life-changing choices.
Speaker 2:And we did that, and so now we're in the process of healing and rebuilding, and which is a process in itself, creating just a healing part set point, getting ready for the next level of experiences I agree because it it did. It was a good opportunity to let a lot of garbage come up, for both of us, I think. I agree. For evolution and growth.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I appreciate you running this railroad car with me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, we'll do it together. You and me kid, you and me kid.
Speaker 1:And so here's to my hopefulness of all. Of it is I hope that our actions create change and I hope for others, and I hope that the that change is for the positive right and and because I know our life is going to be okay, we're going to be all right. Um, we're both ingenuitive, we're both very spiritually guided and we we're going to create an environment that is good for us.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I know that's the whole point of the podcast, the books that we write yeah, they. You know all of the different things that we do is is always to help people maneuver through the change, and the highest and best way for everybody involved that's really our motto is we're here as a resource to help wherever we can, however we can, and for the positive. You know, even if it is me saying okay, listen, it's time for you to put your big girl panties on and get the hell out from underneath that baggage, or you can continue to carry it.
Speaker 1:Agreed.
Speaker 2:Whichever way you want to go, but hey, listen. We have some really amazing stuff coming your way, meaning the audience.
Speaker 1:Yes, you kind of touched on it a while ago, the Salty Tarot.
Speaker 2:Got the Scripted From Within book that I wrote. It will be up and available on Amazon and Kindle probably.
Speaker 1:Yeah, amazon Kindle maybe Books Buy, we'll see.
Speaker 2:And then we've got some merchandise coming your way. We created some really cool Saltyot oracle cards that are really fun to work with.
Speaker 1:It's the shit your spirit gods will want to tell you yeah, exactly it's going to be great, that's going to be fun. The deck's going to be blessed uh totes yeah and uh tumblers don't forget about the granny grimroars and yes, I've.
Speaker 2:I've been writing the cool little spell book of Granny Grimoire.
Speaker 1:It's the book of everyday spells.
Speaker 2:Yeah, definitely, granny's been writing her spells for everybody to share and tap into, and now that I've got a lot of free time, I am going to start doing my guided meditations and get those recorded.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And get those out there for people to take part in and use for relaxation sleep.
Speaker 1:I like it.
Speaker 2:That part of me that can hypnotize probably do some guided hypnosis.
Speaker 1:I think we ought to create a Granny Grimoire. Instagram and let people follow you on Instagram and you read a spell every day. That would be kind of cool.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we can do that.
Speaker 1:A spell for the bad boss, a spell to get new friends, a spell whatever it is. Create a daily spell. That might be kind of fun.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we could definitely do that I think we'll do that granny grim granny grim wars yeah, yeah, that whole thing came because I have this really, really, really cool, uh, leather bound, blank paged book that the kids got me for my birthday a couple years ago and haven't really decided what I want to put in it, but it's really really awesome. On the outside it's got the different gems and chakra stones on it and then inside it's got that old looking parchment paper and hand-tool leather.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like it looks very witchy, yeah and so I was thinking what can I put in this thing? That would be really cool too. And I was like, oh well, you know what, Let me just do some fun little poems and stuff and I'll print those off and paste them in there. And that's kind of how Granny Grimm came to be.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's going to be fun. I think we'll do the Instagram page.
Speaker 2:That might be fun. I write little spells every day whenever I get up and depending on what mood I'm in, because sometimes I'm spicy sometimes I'm salty Sometimes. I'm just granny love that wants to just feed you cookies and milk, little glasses of sweet tea, poor little queenie.
Speaker 1:I'm just granny love that wants to just feed you cookies and milk and little glasses of sweet tea Poor little queenie. Yeah, pay attention, I'm working on a Shopify store now called the Salty Tarot, and so all those products will be online. We'll let you know as soon as they are available, go find me. Oh yeah, I don't know We'll have to. Maybe we'll put it in the description.
Speaker 1:Okay, I don't know, because I don't know how we would plug that on here when it's just audio, so we'll have to put it. We started the GoFundMe page to mitigate the mold treatment and the health stuff because the treatment's not cheap and we're going to lose our insurance really soon, so, and not to mention, insurance doesn't cover 99% of it anyway. Um, and we're battling with workers comp right now. So the uh, the GoFundMe page is there to kind of help support that treatment and we'll, we'll, we'll, uh, put it in the comments.
Speaker 2:Yeah, or in the description, because the treatment is very pricey and the insurance doesn't cover it anyways.
Speaker 1:I know it's like $11,000.
Speaker 2:I mean some of the lab testing just to figure out what treatment you need is not covered by the insurance. Yeah, no the thing.
Speaker 1:I've seen online was like $1,800.
Speaker 2:It's not covered.
Speaker 1:Because mold needs to be brought to the awareness.
Speaker 2:That's right. People don't realize how because it's people don't realize how because it can mimic so many other disease processes with the symptoms.
Speaker 1:I mean they tried to put me on high blood pressure medicine yeah, it's a weird journey, man yeah, the, the I end up going to my regular doctor, my heart doctor, my ent. My ent told me I had a fungal infection, which come to find out now it's chronic because of what I've been exposed to. And now I mean they tried to put me on all these medications.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I mean luckily. I was smart enough and had a brilliant wife that's very, very educated and she was like you know. I don't think you've liked that medicine, and you're right. I took that blood pressure medicine once and it gave me a massive headache. It was insane and so I'm not going to do it, and what? Happened. Now I'm out of it and my blood pressure is down.
Speaker 2:Yeah. It's just the exposure to the environment For me, I guess, as a female. But then, just by the way, my body's designed mine's in my digestive tract. Yeah, mine was mine's in my digestive track Yep. And I went on a journey of being like gluten-free, gluten-sensitive, trying to eliminate that and sugars, and basically it's the mold. Yep, I'm the big cheese who's kind of moldy?
Speaker 1:You're moldy. You've been in the drawer too long, so but yeah, there you go. Anyway. So that's kind of a preliminary podcast. We'll get more in depth into it as we go along. We just have to be careful about what we talk about.
Speaker 2:And for right now, Play it by ear, play it by ear, but we'll let you everybody, you, everybody know, keep everybody intact. And we've been down and out for a little bit, so this is our first podcast back up in our new place.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I have literally been sleeping like 16 hours a day.
Speaker 2:I know right. I don't ever sleep that much here in Daytona, which is an amazingly healing area. Area. It just is the water's phenomenal, which is an amazingly healing area.
Speaker 1:It just is the water's phenomenal, the drinking water is so good, the air is so good. I agree.
Speaker 2:Just the whole energy, the environment. It just has a really, really, really healing vibration for us. So we've been enjoying that.
Speaker 1:I agree. All right, my love, do you feel complete today?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I feel good. I hope that this is intertwined with some positive energy and give people the courage and the strength to go and try something new. Yeah, outside of the realm of fear.
Speaker 1:Hey, and if you have anything in your life that you are struggling to get through, post a comment on here or send us an email.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if you want to be a guest on the show and want to talk about your journey.
Speaker 1:Yeah, especially if you have mold experience, totally you know, get a hold of us. We can, we'll, we'll, we'll call you in and put you on the show with us and we'll talk through it yeah, we can set up a remote thing, or yeah in person. I can take phone calls on this mixer, with this fancy mixer we bought absolutely but uh, anyway, uh don't forget to like, follow and share. And look, hey, check out website wwwthemerchcentersorg.
Speaker 2:We do speaking engagements, we do yep Power of thought school energy work seminars so yeah, what did you say?
Speaker 1:Seminars?
Speaker 2:Seminars.
Speaker 1:Seminars. I'm old brain, you're cheesy. Anyway, like follow and and share and check out the website and whatever you do, please, please, comment on this.
Speaker 2:make comments we want to. We want to hear what you have to say exactly.
Speaker 1:We'd love to hear from you and don't forget to ring that bell and we hope y'all have another awesome day.
Speaker 2:Love you. That was my brain. Sorry for the delay. We'll see you next time.
