The Spiritual Grind
Dr. Jenni PhD,RN,CHLC,CH and medium and Rev. James ORD, MhsB have spent countless years studying and practicing many modalities within the "Spiritual" domain. Dr. Jenni has dedicated her life to helping others by attending countless schools and developing each of her practices and strategies. Rev. James has studied many modalities and Native American practices and they have Both decided to open their library of knowledge to share this information with everyone in a down to earth style, with hope to assist in making your journey easier and more abundant.
The Spiritual Grind
What's Blocking Your Path to True Abundance?
What if everything you've been taught about abundance is keeping you broke? That's the profound question we tackle in this eye-opening conversation about redefining our relationship with money and abundance.
Most of us have been conditioned to separate "wants" from "needs," reserving the "need" category strictly for bare survival essentials. We work ourselves to exhaustion, often juggling multiple jobs or sacrificing sleep, yet remain stuck in a paycheck-to-paycheck cycle. This isn't accidental—it's the direct result of inherited beliefs about money, worth, and what we deserve.
We share a revolutionary perspective: your higher self would never give you the desire for something unless it served your growth and evolution. That longing for financial freedom, that daydream about the perfect home, that yearning for travel—these aren't random or frivolous wants. They're signposts directing you toward your next evolutionary step.
Through our own experience of manifesting a motorhome purchase exceeding $100,000 with no money down in just three hours, we demonstrate how transforming a "want" into a "need" creates powerful alignment. This wasn't magic—it was the result of reconstructing our belief systems around abundance and worthiness.
For those struggling financially, we offer practical starting points: begin by asking "What would I have to believe to experience life with an extra $50 monthly?" Use visualization tools like writing yourself checks from the universe or test-driving your dream car to bring those experiences closer to your reality. Your subconscious mind and spiritual guidance work in tandem when you clearly define a need, creating momentum toward manifestation.
Ready to break free from scarcity thinking and expand your container of abundance? Listen now and discover how redefining your relationship with wants versus needs could transform your financial reality forever.
Good morning.
Speaker 1:Good morning. We are back listening to the spiritual grind. Everybody out there is. They're driving. Oh my God, Are you clearing your throat?
Speaker 2:No, I was grinding.
Speaker 1:Oh, you were grinding. Is that what that circular hand motion was? Yeah, so good morning everybody. Welcome back to the show. We're glad you're here and we are talking today about a topic that's kind of in our life right now.
Speaker 1:And it's about you know. Okay, let me put a little back story a little bit kind of. You know, in the spiritual world, everybody refers to abundance as money and what we have discovered throughout our research is people label abundance as money and what they need to realize is abundance can be anything. You have to define it in a different way, and we have talked about abundance before in one of the previous podcasts, and what you just brought up this morning was actually in my meditation in the shower I suppose is the best way to put it when I was thinking about money in, money out.
Speaker 1:You know, you say that all the time at work and thinking about how, because everybody does this, everybody does that they live, they have created an environment humanly to where you have just enough money to have a little extra and pay your bills. And why? Why is that? Because, if you stop back and think about your historical life of finance, almost everybody started to like my first job was hauling hay. You know, my first actual job. I was making $2.38 an hour and I lived just fine on that.
Speaker 2:Wow, isn't that crazy.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah, because I think my first job was $3 something $3.35, probably Because it wasn't long after I started my first job. I was 14 years old. I was a guy that was power washing the lot for Hardee's.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I made $2 and 38 cents an hour and I worked 16 hours a week.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And and of course, I was still in high school and so I was living with my parents, but it gave me money and and then, as I, you know, become an adult. We always seem to live to our income. You know, as adults in the human world, the majority of us which you know, they say the two percenters, are those ones like Elon Musk and all those guys, you know they have billions and billions of dollars and, except for the other 98%, have a tendency to really nowadays live almost paycheck to paycheck.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:And how do we get out of that scenario as humans and create a world of abundance to where it don't feel uncomfortable? I mean, we work our tail ends off. We all work. You know, the majority of people work 40, 50 hours a week, sometimes more, and but yet they still are just happy with paycheck to paycheck. Used to be back in the day, like in the fifties.
Speaker 2:I mean, I don't know that they're happy with it. I just think that they don't know a better way.
Speaker 1:Right. Well, I would agree with that. Like back in the fifties it was a single income house and those companies all paid pensions. You know they do. Nowadays there's paid pensions. You know they do. Nowadays there's not pensions, there's 401k. That's got matching for like three years.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:And you have to build your own wealth? Yeah, and yet that becomes very difficult when you're not living in an abundant place that allows excess.
Speaker 2:Well, and it can be very challenging when they don't really teach that they don't teach it in school. They don't. I mean you have to go seek out the education of how to do that.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:And if you don't know anything about it because your guardian didn't know anything about it, right, then you really have. You don't know what you don't know.
Speaker 1:Right, you know, when we were in high school, they didn't even talk about credit.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:There was nothing to do with finance, there was nothing to do with credit, there was nothing to do with sustaining a real adult life. And then they throw you out in the street and they expect you to know what to do.
Speaker 2:Right yeah.
Speaker 1:And how to play the game, and so we adapt and just do the best we can, and nobody teaches about the abundant of finances, the abundance of emotions, the abundance of life, the abundance of being a human and we talked about in one of our previous podcasts about containers.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I'm going to stop you right there and I'm going to give a little nugget of a little morsel, yummy morsel of thought. Okay, food for thought. It's not that you're not abundant, because we all are abundant. According to her, it's not that we have to learn how to become abundant.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:It's that we have to become aware of what are we abundant in.
Speaker 1:That's right. That's where exactly we're at Are you abundant in lack?
Speaker 2:Are you abundant in the fear of money? Are you abundant in the status quo? What are you abundant in? And that's the piece to look at.
Speaker 1:I agree. You know that's identifying your abundant area and the container by which it's in is kind of a crucial part of building abundance in all aspects is understanding that. First of all, how do you define abundance? How do you define abundance and what are you expecting abundance in and what do you have abundance in?
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I'll speak to this going back, kind of how you introed If you don't know, what you don't know and you don't know how to play, like the investment game. But then on the other side of that you're told don't take your excess money and just sit it in your account, make it work for you.
Speaker 2:but you don't know how to do that, then you're not going to allow yourself to have excess money because you don't know what to do with it and you don't know how to play that game and it's kind of an underlying program that's taught that excess is not okay if it's just sitting there not doing anything.
Speaker 1:Agreed, I was actually taught that.
Speaker 2:And it is okay. But that's a belief and you want to look at that Because it will create a little bit of a wonky money reality.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I think part of that is to remove the human emotions behind it and the frustration that people get you know, like, for example, I mean, that's true.
Speaker 2:But, the emotions are not the cause of it. The emotions are the indicator of what's going on.
Speaker 1:I agree, I totally agree. But what I'm saying is get to a neutral part of in it, into where you can actually open-mindedly look at what's going on. That is easier for you to say than it is to do it.
Speaker 2:Especially if you're one of those who's in a situation where I'll take kind of a worst-case scenario You're a single parent of a couple of kids, you're working all your full-time hours and then some just to make ends meet and you're barely bringing home enough money to buy bread, peanut butter and water, then it's hard to remove and you're listening to this podcast on a friend's device. It's hard to remove the emotions of that. You've got to start a little. You can't start there from there.
Speaker 1:No, I totally am with you. I was just going to get to it and that's one of those easier said than done.
Speaker 2:You know, I can hear. I can hear the chatter of the collective. Oh yeah, that's easy for you to say. You sit around and talk about how you have a motor home and you've got a. Jeep and you probably make a shit ton of money and dah, dah, dah dah. So that's easier for you to say, sitting there on the microphone. But what about me who lives in a one-bedroom shanty and I am barely making minimum wage?
Speaker 1:My car is 30 years old.
Speaker 2:I'm working 60 hours a week and exhausted and beat down, and every extra minute that I have I'm trying to do the best I can to raise these two kids by myself. And you want me to be non-emotional in that? Well, bleep off, buddy.
Speaker 1:No, I totally agree with you, and you know when we were raised and how we react to humans in the world, and how most humans do this is they have a tendency to create unbalance and think I work more, I get paid more. And that's what I did. I mean, I worked a ton of hours every single week.
Speaker 2:Yeah, same here.
Speaker 1:And I had no balance. I had no work-life balance. I mean, I was literally scheduling my kid stuff around my work Instead of scheduling my work around my kid stuff. I was doing it in the opposite direction.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and for me I was actually sabotaging myself yeah like I would work six days a week at night, 12 hour shifts and then some, so that I could what I perceived was hide the extra hours and the work hours from my kids, so they wouldn't necessarily think they were missing me. Yeah, because then that would allow me to come home in the morning, get them ready for school, take them to school, participate in their life, go to you know, valentine's day party and uh, then pick them up, go to soccer practice, feed them supper, get them ready for bed or put to bed. Then go to soccer practice, feed them supper, get them ready for bed or put to bed.
Speaker 1:Then go to work again and not sleep.
Speaker 2:Right, totally agree. So in that whole day I did not go to bed, and then I'm going to go do another night shift, and so I was a self-sabotaging worker. Yeah, so that could be what I wanted, or thought that I needed to be to my kids. I sacrificed myself.
Speaker 1:How many times did you sit in the living room floor and put your hands on your head and say I can't do this anymore?
Speaker 2:I didn't, I didn't have time to let myself go there. Yeah, and that's where I'm going Instead of sitting in the living room floor doing that. If I sat down for a second it was catching catnaps.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I would literally like I would go to pick them up from school and if I got there early and the bell hadn't rang and I had 10 minutes, I was kicking the seat back trying to get a 10 minute nap here there, and I didn't really even have time to go until the horn honks behind you because you're in the pickup line and you haven't moved because you're asleep I would use a park so they could take a nap.
Speaker 1:You know, and that's where we get, as humans, we get hung up in is we're chasing the dollar instead of allowing the dollar to chase us, and we will sacrifice everything for the dollar. And at what point does a human race stop and say, you know what? I'm not going to fall for this bait and switch anymore Bait and switch Because, like, for example, you know and here's a part of this in abundance and money that people seem to miss out on for me and I was just having this conversation yesterday, actually, with my intern and he was saying that everybody, everybody in college, is telling us to invest in, bit in, in Bitcoin and in cryptocurrency, and that's the future of investing. And yada, yada, yada, he said, but nobody's telling us how to do it and what it means, what drives it, what makes it go up, and so it's the misunderstanding. And that's why he asked me about it, cause he knows I play around in crypto a little bit and he was like what do you think of it? And I'm like I don't even know what really drives it.
Speaker 1:I've heard, I know what I've heard, I know what I've been, you know, I've watched videos about it and people tell me this and that. But when you see those actions happen and it doesn't drive it, I don't know. But you know, the those two percenters gamble on the other 98 percent just trying to follow their leads. And that's where we get caught up in that frustration and that and identifying we're trying to do better for ourselves, we're working more hours, we're trying to invest, we're trying to do this and that, whatever that is, and it creates an emotional frustration and you know we're making just enough money to pay our bills and we don't know where to go and so. But here's the here's the positive part behind it is you have created a container of abundance that is big enough to pay your bills, and so that means you have the creative powers to create abundance. But how do you take it to the next level? Cue, dr Jenny. Thank you, yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, you know what, guys? Again, it's stopping to look at your beliefs, your patterns, your definitions, your programs. Each one of us goes through our reality from our perspective, from our point of view, and the universe will put together the reality that you're asking for, and it already exists. It's just becoming aligned with that through redefining things, realizing what beliefs you have that are having you look at things from a different perspective, which in turn causes you to act and react to different situations and events, on a conscious or even a subconscious level, that create the reality you have, and that is in any topic. But because we're on the money topic, you've got to first look at the whole construct of what do I?
Speaker 2:believe about that. What do I believe? Not what was fed to me by my parents, not what was fed to me by my grandparents or the person who raised me and gave me my foundational belief system, not what is being fed to me by the society or the collective. What do I want that to look like? What do I want to believe in? Because that is how you create a reality and then perpetuate that into existence for yourself as being the actual reality that you live.
Speaker 2:And you know the first step is awareness yeah, really you've got to be aware you can't walk through life, on any life topic, being completely oblivious and unconscious to what you're doing, because then you're just a robot going through the motions of whatever it is Right, that's right and living life on kind of this autopilot.
Speaker 2:You got to be able to stop and say, wait a minute until you're ready to stop and say all right, dad, government, I'm ready for this to change and I'm willing to put in the action and the steps to really do something about it. And you decide, right then and there, that you're going to take your control back from your belief systems not back from the characters that are playing parts in your play, but take your power back from your belief systems by really deconstructing them and looking at them and deciding okay, is this a belief I want? Is this a belief I don't want? Is it something I can utilize, if I restructure it and whatever that process looks like, to go through those?
Speaker 2:And I'm a fond believer of taking notes and journaling, especially in your newness of you know, if you're new to the concept, you got to write it down because you can't remember everything you want. You're not practiced enough to be able to do it on the fly in your mind. Yet I mean, I've been doing it for 30 years and there's sometimes there's deep seated things that I can't even do without writing them down. You know some of the minor things I can, uh, because for me, I've gotten to a place that, if it's not very deeply buried, I can work with it right then, and right then it is dissolved, it's recalibrated, it's redefined, restructured, and then reality will change literally right there.
Speaker 2:For me, I'll give you an example and this is a rabbit hole example, but it just happened. The other day we were headed to Daytona for the weekend. The navigator actually said we still had like 58 miles and an hour and something, and I'm like you know what this is ridiculous. I do not have to carry around a belief that it takes this long to get there. Time and space are a construct that I create and I'm done with that. Like I don't have to live within the time space continuum if I don't want to, I can create a wormhole that gives me from point a to point b and I truly and I truly believe that in every ounce of my being. At that very moment and just like that, it went from 58 miles left to 28 miles. It went from an hour and something minutes to I don't know 13 minutes and next thing, I know we're pulling into the place and done yeah.
Speaker 1:Either that or you took a really good nap while you were driving.
Speaker 2:I don't know if it happened that way for you in your reality or whatever, but that's how it went.
Speaker 1:I did it was kind of crazy because we were driving down the road and it said 48, 46 minutes, I think, left and then suddenly it dropped to 22. Yeah, Something like that. It was kind of cool. But here's the thing of this that I want to talk about with abundance is, when you're creating abundance and you're trying to create excess abundance, you have to be clear on one topic.
Speaker 2:I believe that will help you step by step work through the process, and that is defining needs and wants differently.
Speaker 1:Yes, and it's a big one. It's a big one because your higher self and your, your God, your spiritual advisor whoever that is, does not matter it's going to provide for you what you need.
Speaker 2:Always.
Speaker 1:Always. You're always going to have what you need, unless you humanly choose to not accept it. Now, here's the point to that is, what is a need? Because we've always had our needs met. We've worked through life, we've we've had a roof over our head. Granted, we may not always get exactly what we expected, and that is because there is like, for example, you may have a roof over your head and you have something to eat, you have gas in your car to get back and forth to work, but your food is like peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and a loaf of bread, and that's not necessarily what you feel like, that you really want. And that's because you have not identified or clarified the difference between wants and needs. And when you can clarify that within your mindset, it makes your step by step to creating excess abundance even easier.
Speaker 2:And like for me, yeah, whenever you're sitting there saying I am okay if I could just get my bare essentials met. Right, that's a belief, right. And that's exactly what you're going to create.
Speaker 1:And here's a very good story, here's a very good example of that is we identified something to change our environment right now and we turned that into a need and, out of our own beliefs, we went down and bought a motor home in less than three hours.
Speaker 1:Right Because we turned it into a need Bam Done here, sign these papers, you're out Right. And I don't want you all to think for one minute we have like an 850 credit score because that's not what, that's not at all what we have. We, we had the ability because we did. We took this from a want to a need in our beliefs and it became very, very easy.
Speaker 2:Actually it became stupid easy. It was it was quite a beautiful experience.
Speaker 1:Like within four hours we were signing papers.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And like three hours we had a deal done. Four hours later we were signing the paper and we came back and picked it up two days later or three days later after they got it all ready to go. It was probably the most easy experience at that level that I'd ever experienced, and it was I mean you're talking in excess of a $100,000 purchase and we did it in three hours and that was with no money down.
Speaker 2:All of our experiences are easy once we get aligned with them, though.
Speaker 1:We paid no money out of pocket, right and that was with no money down. Our experiences are easy once we get aligned with them, though we paid no money out of pocket.
Speaker 2:Right, that's crazy. Think about that, I don't.
Speaker 1:It's not crazy, it's fun. I don't have to.
Speaker 2:That's how it works. That's how it works, whenever you do the work to restructure and commit to wanting things to actually be different. Lose the fear of the unknown, lose the monkey mind talk of I don't deserve it, I can't have it. You got to go through and restructure all that nonsense.
Speaker 1:I totally agree with you, and I'm going to go away from the spiritual world for a minute and I'm going to talk about something that is very important and crucial into understanding all of this is. Your subconscious mind creates habits within you and it will. When you create something from a want to a need, your subconscious mind will, without you thinking, humanly, react in ways to create what you want. For example, if you have a need that you need to have $30,000 in your savings account by the end of the year. If you create that and put it into a need and make it a high priority, not only will spirit help guide you through it, but your subconscious mind will too, because your subconscious mind is going to do what it takes and put you in situations to create that abundance of what you need. Now the spiritual part of that is when you have that need identified. Your subconscious mind is going to help dictate that through your human experience.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:You got quiet on me.
Speaker 2:I'm just listening.
Speaker 1:And because your subconscious mind is a creature of habit and it creates these because it's best way to describe it is it's lazy. Once it has something set up, it's going to go to the path of least resistance and it's going to continue to repeat that process subconsciously until you purposely change it. And now the spiritual world side of that is, you will create abundance when you can change that from a want to need, and then you're going to have your spiritual backing and your subconscious mind all working in the same direction, and that's where I wanted to go, for just a minute, anyway. And so how do we create the excess of the excess, excess? How do you say that word Excess, excess, excess.
Speaker 2:Excess Meaning an overabundance.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Excess.
Speaker 1:Excess.
Speaker 2:Access with an.
Speaker 1:A yeah, so you can get into somewhere.
Speaker 2:I know what that means I was just playing, because I said it wrong Excess with an E Excessive abundance. Oh, I thought so it was a rhetorical question that you didn't want to answer.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was just playing because I said it wrong.
Speaker 2:Oh, I got you.
Speaker 1:I didn't need Dr J. I was trying to make it funny and nobody laughed.
Speaker 2:I am not a doctor of vocabulary or grammar.
Speaker 1:So, dr Ginny, how do we Ask my editor, now that we've changed our wants to our needs, what happens next in this virtual world? What do we do now?
Speaker 2:Well, you know, I think we have to back up a minute, because how do you change it from a want to a need and, uh, circumvent the monkey mind? Oh, that's a good one because monkey mind will come in if you're not careful and say, okay, what do you need thirty thousand dollars for? Why do you need that?
Speaker 1:right, you don't need that.
Speaker 2:You have food to eat, you breathe. You've got a job that pays your bills. You don't need that. You have food to eat, you breathe. You've got a job that pays your bills. You don't really need to take that vacation. That doesn't save your life, it doesn't help you to.
Speaker 1:That's not a life-saving thing.
Speaker 2:That's the first thing that has to happen is we have to come away from the definition of need being that which sustains our physical life.
Speaker 1:Greed.
Speaker 2:Because that's what jams people up.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:And then they bring in the scientific backing to the monkey mind of okay, I literally could survive on a peanut butter sandwich, half a sandwich once a day, and so that means I need a loaf of bread and a thing of peanut butter for the week. Don't forget the milk. I could drink water. I don't need to even spend the money on milk.
Speaker 1:No, I gotta have milk. I have to have milk.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying it all depends on what you're defining as need, and most of us, our definition stems from the caveman mentality of how they lived. What is the need? To sustain life?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And we've been taught even in the medical world. In the medical books we get taught that the physical body will shut down the less important parts of the body and give all the nutrients, all the blood and everything to the organs that are life-sustaining Right, yep or flight situation or a very ill situation. The medical books teach us that all the nutrients and the oxygen and all that will be shunted to the things like the brain, the heart, the major organs.
Speaker 1:Things that keep you alive Not necessarily the fingers and the toes. And all that because, technically speaking, you can live life as a Bob yeah.
Speaker 2:And not need.
Speaker 1:A need not necessarily have Bad joke.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:I'm mad. Oh, that's even worse.
Speaker 2:Okay, you can live life technically without your arms and legs.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:And so if you have a structure that's formatted around that deep underlying belief of what is a need, it's things that are life-saving components, then you're going to live a very Mundane. Minuscule.
Speaker 1:Minuscule. Yeah, components.
Speaker 2:Then you're going to live a very mundane minuscule life, and you're not going to allow yourself to put other things in the need column because they're too extravagant, and so you've got to redefine that. You have to stop and redefine what need is.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because if having that $30,000 in the bank allows you to, for example, experience more of what your joy and excitement is, which puts you in alignment with that vibrational frequency which is, in fact, your natural state of being, then that's a need. Yeah, I agree, because that brings about mental, energetic, physical, overall unity and well-being Right. And so you've got to stop and I think, really look at what your definition is on need and want, is it?
Speaker 2:archaic. Does it stem back from caveman mentality? Because I'm telling you now if you have a definition in place on the need? And it came from your parents and they got theirs from their grandparents. Listen, these grandparents lived through the depression. They know the minimal that it takes to sustain life. They could make a dime last them an entire month and live off of that doughy thing that was made out of bread and water.
Speaker 1:Yep, yep, that had no flavor.
Speaker 2:They became accustomed to that and had water to drink, sometimes nothing to drink if the water was contaminated or they would boil it Like they know that. And so if you're working on a definition that they gave you, you're only going to allow bare essentials yeah, into your reality. Perfect. So you've got to start there you are totally right.
Speaker 1:Like I, had the same kind of belief that popped up because growing up there was one thanksgiving that my family, we were very poor and broke at the time and our, our Thanksgiving dinner was literally, literally.
Speaker 2:What was that high pitch?
Speaker 1:Well, I don't know what that was, I guess, but our Thanksgiving dinner was literally peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And my mother preached to me about that that it was hey, at least we had that. Preach to me about that that it was hey, at least we had that. And as I grew up, I my mom it was a family tradition that every thanksgiving we had a peanut butter and jelly sandwich after that fuck that and and um. And then, as I became an adult, I thought to myself why would I worship that?
Speaker 1:yeah, no I'm not thankful that only only thing I had was a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. I'm not thankful for that. As a matter of fact, it's pretty embarrassing, and so I went through. I have been through the rest of my life trying to figure out how to build excess abundance. I have been very successful out of the times and I've sucked at it at others. I have been very successful out of the times and I've sucked at it at others, and but the the main part of that is understanding that these beliefs that we carry on identifying the difference between wants and needs, will change your, your, your complete perception of your reality right now.
Speaker 2:Of course yeah.
Speaker 1:And when you like to use a $30,000 example again, when you make it $30,000 in your savings account by this date as somewhere that you have to be because that's the only way you can feel comfortable in life, it will become a need and you will create that abundance.
Speaker 2:You will create it and that's how you do it is you change your wants?
Speaker 1:and your needs and you create a new standard. Yeah, a new set point.
Speaker 1:A new set point zero balance, you know, a bigger, a bigger container yeah, I totally agree, and as you, because you've done it your whole life. If you stop and think everybody does it, they'll start with a little high school job and you know, they go through college and all that stuff and they're, they're, they're raising the bar constantly, yeah, and they just don't realize that when they get to that point, to where they can't seem to create more, they don't know how to go from there. And that's because their needs are met and they're okay with their wants not being met right and when you can clarify that in your own reality and change the wants and the needs.
Speaker 1:You know. Try it with little things at first. If you need to, you know, try it with. I want $2,000 in my savings account by the end of the year and see the process, feel the process, because when you create a new belief and then attach an emotion to it, that becomes locked into reality for you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I think the PhD place on this school of thought, when you get to a place where there is no difference between want and need, yeah, yeah, I want it, just because I want the experience of having it.
Speaker 1:And it's okay for me to have it.
Speaker 2:And I deserve it and I'm worthy of it and I can have what I want. When you get to that place of allowing yourself to have it just because you want to have the experience of it. You want to experience the contrast. And remember contrast is not always negative, the good contrast and the bad contrast. Contrast is just seeing the different sides of something.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:And so when you can get to a place where want and need really are not any different than each other and you allow yourself to have the things that you want, just because you want to have the experience of having them, just because you want to have the experience of having them, so that you can decide from there where you go with having this thing, I experienced that I like this part of it, but I don't necessarily like this part of it.
Speaker 2:So let me go to the drawing board, create a reality where I've got this part of it, but I'm going to change this part, part of it. But I'm going to change this part when you get to a place where I am going to line up with the reality of having it, simply because I want to experience what it's like to have it for my own growth and evolution, not because I need it to pay a bill or because I need it to have happiness, or I need it for a good vacation or so that my kids can have something. Just simply because you want it and you're allowing yourself to have it for the experience that allows growth and evolution.
Speaker 1:Agreed.
Speaker 1:That's the ultimate place to get to and and here for some of you out there that maybe struggle with understanding this, you know we have I'm I'm a salesman, I'm in sales and I deal with seniors all the time that are trying to hold everything they have saved, all their abundance, to pass on to their kids and to where they'll actually hinder their own life. And my explanation for that is when is to get them to understand that what they want is truly what they need, and and transferring, transferring that thought process for them within the realm of their own abundance is what I do every day. That just came to me a minute ago.
Speaker 2:Well, and the rabbit hole concept of that is, if you didn't need it, you would never be given the thought or the desire to want it.
Speaker 1:Okay, I'm following you be given the thought or the desire to want it. Okay, I agree, I'm following you.
Speaker 2:Your higher self guides you through your path always.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:And if you're given the desire or the passion or the thought of hmm, I want that, then it's because you need it it, yeah, because it is going to help you grow and evolve. Yes, it's either giving you the opportunity to experience something, so that a belief can come up and you can look at it, dissolve it, or it's giving you the opportunity to experience it, to discern for yourself whether you'd like it and you want more of it, or you don't necessarily care for it and you want less of it. So, getting to a place where you understand that your desire for wanting something is part of the bigger component of the whole mechanism Right, it's a driving force.
Speaker 2:If you weren't supposed to have it and you weren't supposed to experience it, then higher self would never give you the desire to want it Right.
Speaker 1:You know I watch the YouTube, so therefore, it must be a need.
Speaker 1:Correct. You know, I watched a YouTube video this morning a short of Danica Patrick being she's that female race car driver. Yeah, a YouTube video this morning, a short of Danica Patrick being she's that female race car driver of her being interviewed, and the topic of this was that she had just bought a Lamborghini. And he asked her why did you buy the Lamborghini? And she said I'd always wanted one all my life and I worked hard to get it and it was a driving force behind me becoming who I am. Because I wanted a Lamborghini and she wouldn't buy one. And 12 days later she traded it in. She got rid of it and he said why? He asked her well, you worked all your life to have that. And she said I realized that's not really what I wanted, because you know what? It didn't have a cup holder.
Speaker 2:And it can be literally that simple.
Speaker 1:That's exactly right.
Speaker 2:But a lot of people will look at that situation and say, well, what's the point? How wasteful. Why would you do that? Why would you buy a car, keep it for 12 days and then return it?
Speaker 1:Right, get rid of it. Well, and here's what she said.
Speaker 2:Because we also have an entangled premise that when we buy something, we have to attach to it and keep it forever.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Keep that 30-year note house until you pay it off, because that's a definition of success.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Keep that car forever and pay it off so you don't have debt.
Speaker 1:I remember the 8 is Enough show, when they finally got their deed to their house. It paid off and there was a big family celebration and then they turned around and had to take a loan out against it. That show popped in my head. But anyway, danica, in this interview, when the guy said, well, you worked all your life for that Lamborghini and she said, yeah, I realized it really, really wasn't what I wanted, right. And she said, all my life I needed one. That was my driving force. I needed to have that. Then, when I got it, I was okay with you. Know what I got? It it's done. And now I want Right. And she went and bought that.
Speaker 1:Right and and she and he said, wow, it must be nice to have that kind of money. And he said, well, the Lamborghini is what made me have that kind of money, and so cause I turned my Lamborghini into that's something I need in my life. So this was on the short. This morning it was a little three minutes short, and that does you know.
Speaker 2:It drives home what I just said Getting to a place where want and need don't hold two separate spaces Right, yep, Yep. Understanding that the way the mechanism works is, you would not be given the desire to want something unless it was needed to help you experience and evolve.
Speaker 1:Yes, totally with you on the same page.
Speaker 2:That's how that mechanism actually works.
Speaker 1:That's how you build excessive abundance Right. You have to be able to, in your own mind, fathom the place where you take your wants and you turn them into needs, and that becomes the driving force behind your excessive abundance.
Speaker 2:Yeah, until you can get to a place where the want is okay. Yes, is okay as a child, and coming up just because you want it doesn't mean you need it. How many times did you?
Speaker 1:hear that yeah right. I remember so many times. That many times did you hear that yeah right. I remember so many times that I heard that in my life yeah, exactly, but I want it.
Speaker 2:Well, just because you want it doesn't mean that you need it, and so I can't afford it, right?
Speaker 1:now. My dad used to say put your wants in one hand and shit in the other one. See what one fills up first.
Speaker 2:Actually that's yes, 100%, or spitting the other. You know, my grandma would try to clean it up, but yeah, I can't tell you how many times I was told that as well, and so we were taught to segregate those two things out.
Speaker 1:Everybody's taught that A need is defined as what do I need to sustain my liv?
Speaker 2:an experiential life. You need any want that comes across because it serves a purpose just like in the example you gave.
Speaker 2:That want is your higher self knows what will get you from point A to point B, and if you're supposed to go down this path, then higher self is going to give you this unwavering desire to want something to get you to be driven in that direction, whatever that is, and it's perfectly okay. So if you can do that for yourself and put the wants in the same category of I need everything I want because it is in some form or fashion driving me to the next evolutional point in my life for growth and expansion, that's the key place to get to right, I agree totally with you.
Speaker 2:I like it and so whatever baby steps you have to do to get there is what you have to put in place, and so you have to figure out what that is. How do I get there? Baby steps, am I at a place where I can take a leap right? Am I at a place where I gotta take baby steps? And if you are that single parent trying to raise two kids and you barely make enough to do the bills, you gotta stop and look at. Okay, I definitely have definitions in place of if I could just, dear lord, if I could just meet our needs this month, then we we'll be okay.
Speaker 1:And let me feed my kids.
Speaker 2:And the stress will be off of me, and so that's exactly what you're going to get. Yep, then you get a day's moment to breathe, and then the first comes and you're sitting down and you're saying the same prayer Please let me get through this month in the same form or fashion. And next thing you know, that's just what life becomes.
Speaker 1:It becomes a habit.
Speaker 2:And you're not necessarily growing or evolving, you're just existing. And that is not a comfortable place.
Speaker 1:It's okay to just exist.
Speaker 2:So stop, and ask yourself these questions what would I have to believe to be true in order to experience life like this? And fill in the blank, and it could be something small enough like what would I have to believe to be true to experience life where I have an extra $500 a month Start small. $200 a month Start small $200 a month, an extra $50 a month so that I can have these new shoes. Find your motivating factor and take baby steps.
Speaker 2:If you're not in a place where you can make that big jump just play with it a little bit and ask those questions and then wait for the answers.
Speaker 1:What's it going to hurt? Try it. Right Play with it it's not right, it's not gonna hurt anything I bet it'll change your life yeah, whatever you've got to do to play the game yeah, because we're here for experiences and that's just the truth of it, and those experiences need abundance, they need finances, those even silly.
Speaker 2:The more fun and the more silly you make it. That is a frequency that is light-hearted even if you have to go literally buy monopoly money and pretend like you pay yourself money with the pink money preferably.
Speaker 2:It's the best color and then you go and you have a catalog where you go through and you spend your monopoly money, open the catalog and money is no object now because you have this monopoly money, shit, tons of it, and in your mind's eye you pick that thing on that page, you put the money in that page and you've bought it virtually yeah and then you daydream about what it would look like, what it feels like, what it smells like to have it on, drive it, whatever.
Speaker 2:and if you can actually take it one step further and go put yourself in that situation like if it's a car and you've paid your Monopoly money for it, or make yourself like on the secret. She actually has tools that you can download and print, and one of those is a check from the universe. You can make yourself out a check from the universe.
Speaker 2:You take that money and go buy the car in your mind and then go down and test drive the car write the check for over though or just write a check just because, and give it a new amount go down and actually sit in the car, or even test drive the car so that you can see what it feels like to sit in the energy of it feel the energy. Put your hands around the steering wheel to even bring it more about into your reality. Anybody can go. Look at one on the floor. You don't have to have any credentials. You don't have to show your bank statement or your credit number to go. Look at the card. Touch it, feel it.
Speaker 2:Do those things that will bring it more and more into your reality and make it more visceral. If it's actual money that you want, write yourself a check from the universe. Play that game. Pay yourself with Monopoly money, whatever you can do to get yourself closer and closer to experiencing that. If you can't do a visualization and you actually have to have something on hand.
Speaker 1:I like it.
Speaker 2:Go to the Halloween store, buy you a package of that Halloween money. That's like $100,000 bills and carry it around in your wallet like I do. Yeah, that's funny.
Speaker 1:Well, I feel pretty good, so what do?
Speaker 2:you think yeah, you feel complete. I think so.
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