The Spiritual Grind
Dr. Jenni PhD,RN,CHLC,CH and medium and Rev. James ORD, MhsB have spent countless years studying and practicing many modalities within the "Spiritual" domain. Dr. Jenni has dedicated her life to helping others by attending countless schools and developing each of her practices and strategies. Rev. James has studied many modalities and Native American practices and they have Both decided to open their library of knowledge to share this information with everyone in a down to earth style, with hope to assist in making your journey easier and more abundant.
The Spiritual Grind
What Are Your Pop-Up Windows Trying to Tell You?
What happens when those metaphorical "pop-up windows" appear in your life—those moments that seem like unintended consequences but might actually be divinely orchestrated opportunities? We dive deep into how these unexpected situations serve as powerful catalysts for spiritual growth and self-awareness.
Just like those deceptive computer alerts claiming your device has viruses, our daily experiences often present us with situations that require discernment. Do we click the button out of fear or pause to examine what's really happening? The fascinating truth is that as we evolve spiritually, we begin to recognize that nothing is truly "unintended"—everything serves a purpose in our awakening journey.
Many spiritual seekers struggle with how their personal growth affects others, worrying about chain reactions or domino effects when they work on shifting their own beliefs. We explore the liberating understanding that we can only truly affect our own reality—others are affected only to the extent they allow themselves to be. This realization frees us to focus on authentic growth without the burden of managing others' reactions.
The way we respond to life's unexpected situations reveals much about our current state of evolution. When we share experiences with others and they don't react as expected, we face a choice: externalize disappointment or internalize it as self-doubt. Both reactions stem from expectations and attachments that limit our freedom. Learning to share without expectation and receive others' responses without judgment represents a major milestone in spiritual maturity.
When the same type of situation appears repeatedly, it's often our higher self bringing something important to our awareness. Rather than dismissing these recurring patterns, we benefit from approaching them with curiosity and openness. From this elevated perspective, we naturally respond to life's challenges in ways that align with our authentic selves, recognizing that every experience happens for us, not to us.
Ready to transform how you view the "pop-up windows" in your own life? Join us for this enlightening exploration of perception, reality, and the art of conscious response.
Good morning Dr Jenny.
Speaker 2:Good morning.
Speaker 1:How are you this morning?
Speaker 2:Superbolus.
Speaker 1:Superbolus, superbolus.
Speaker 2:Superbolus.
Speaker 1:Superbolus, that's the word you brought up in the last podcast, right?
Speaker 2:I think it was a little bit different actually oh okay, good morning everybody.
Speaker 1:Welcome back to the spiritual grind. We are uh um living life large. Lately. We're doing quite um extravagant things in our life we are, we are oh where am I? Uh, you're with me?
Speaker 2:We are, we are. Oh, where am I?
Speaker 1:You're with me. I'm just bringing in the cool terms like living large, you know, and those things into our life that we can kind of tie that younger generation into the spiritualism of the world.
Speaker 2:Do they use that terminology?
Speaker 1:Maybe I feel like they don't?
Speaker 2:You don't think they do? No, I feel like that's one of our terms.
Speaker 1:Oh, you don't think that's a maybe a dead comment?
Speaker 2:yeah, well, you know well, maybe that's gonna I feel like the newest generations really don't have a need to talk.
Speaker 1:They kind of don't, because they've de-socialized themselves with games and online stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, I feel like they just it's definitely put evolution in a different place. Yeah. They're a totally different being. I totally agree with that. Sometimes it's hard to understand them.
Speaker 1:Like for sure.
Speaker 2:Totally.
Speaker 1:Totally Like Valley girl type stuff.
Speaker 2:So today Activate Cindy Lopper.
Speaker 1:Oh, Cindy Lopper activated. That's what Alexa would say.
Speaker 2:Let me get out my black fishnet pantyhose and glove.
Speaker 1:Okay, all righty, then your white glove and multicolored hair. Oh Well, you know today's topic is kind of what I want to talk about is pop-up windows for unintended consequences.
Speaker 2:Pop-up windows for unintended consequences. Pop-up windows for unintended consequences.
Speaker 1:You know those things in your life, you know, like when you're on your computer and you get a pop-up that says that your computer is infected with viruses and you need to click on this button, and then, when you click on it, it's really already it's a virus that you're downloading to your computer. The trickiness of it, because it's unintended, you think you're doing something good when you really don't. Hmm well, okay, what a what a cycle of levels. If you say so, okay, why?
Speaker 2:do you have something to add to it? I mean to talk about with that? Well, unintended consequences have definitely a couple of viewpoints and angles. You could come at them. It depends on the various levels of awakening where you're at.
Speaker 1:I agree.
Speaker 2:Lower level or less awakened individuals could very well perceive them as unintended consequences.
Speaker 1:Well, the reason why.
Speaker 2:As you evolve and grow, grow, you'll recognize and realize that nothing is really unintended. It's all divinely orchestrated and planned and the so to speak consequences are exactly what you intended to experience so the what brings it into my reality of thought is a.
Speaker 1:I have a client client that made a comment to me yesterday and said you know, I've been doing the practices that you told me to do and it's working out quite well.
Speaker 1:But you know, what I've noticed is it has a tendency to be overpowering to other people and and I was like, well, that's an unintended consequence and it's your perception on how you're viewing it, probably out of something, a belief that you have within you, that what you're doing is overpowering, because the reality is is you don't affect anybody's reality, reality unless they allow you to, and the only reality you can truly affect is your own. And so it's how you're viewing it as a negative and because of a belief system that is causing you to hesitate doing the practices that we talked about. And that's kind of what brings it into my reality. And because I was thinking about it this morning, I woke up. You know, in that thought of are there truly unintended consequences? I mean because there really can't be, because I've heard many people talk about it before is when you do the chain reaction events and those things, when you start doing clearings and all that and I'm not quite sure that I buy into that concept.
Speaker 2:The unintended consequence concept. Yes, well, you probably don't now, just because you've evolved and grown.
Speaker 1:Great, my knuckles are going to be dragging the ground to the next level.
Speaker 2:Well, you'll find yourself with an illogical perspective when something really no longer fits Agreed. So what you're experiencing is you know there was a point in time in your journey where that made sense.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That perspective of I had this consequence, and consequences can be positive or negative.
Speaker 1:Totally, totally agree.
Speaker 2:I had this experience and I didn't think through it completely and this one aspect of the experience popped up and kind of surprised me, therefore labeling it an unintended consequence.
Speaker 2:For lack of a better terminology positive or negative terminology, positive or negative it currently feels like it holds a little bit heavier negative connotation For me Just in general in the conversation we're currently having, because if it were a positive consequence, there usually is not a need for in-depth conversation unless you're excited about it and want to. You know, like cheer about it and hey, I did this and, oh my God, this happened. It was amazing and wonderful.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That is a different vibration than a this. I did this and a experienced an unintended consequence.
Speaker 1:I agree, they held two different vibrations, I agree. You know, back in the day I used to think, man, if I do this, this will happen. And when I did this, this happened. And I used to sit there and try to figure out ways, because I didn't want to affect anybody else's reality negative. Want to affect anybody else's reality negative. And when I would do things, I would always stop to think about the many layers of chain reaction that could happen and I would, of course, try to build the scenarios and thinking with the quantum physics of all these scenarios are going to be created individually and it's it. All is all up, to which one I align with one to align with.
Speaker 2:Well, and not only that, but unfortunately, sometimes we sign on to be that person that brings to the other individual those unintended consequences or those unpleasantries that are viewed as not so fun for the purpose of growth, for the purpose of awareness.
Speaker 1:I call that the Sense 8 reaction. Do you remember that show Sense 8?
Speaker 2:I do, but why do you call it that?
Speaker 1:Because that's kind of how their life was Everything positive or negative that happened. The other ones felt it or ended up being involved with it, and so it was kind of fun to watch. I enjoyed that show.
Speaker 2:But why do you call it the Sense 8?
Speaker 1:Because that's really kind of what happens in a sense of when you work on a belief like the client. I'm talking about working on some beliefs with his stuff. I am 100% on board with the fact that nobody can affect my reality but me, but not everybody's at that level. And teaching somebody that is the misconception that I can teach them how to think that way. And I really can't teach them how to think that way.
Speaker 2:I can only give them the tools to develop to think that way, and so well, yeah, that's what evolution is is providing the knowledge, providing tool, possibilities, techniques and letting them go on a discovery of what works for them to take the stepping stones across the river to get them from where they are to where they want to go next.
Speaker 1:Agreed.
Speaker 2:That's really what we're doing. We're not doing anything for anyone. We're just giving them the information and possible tools they could try, possible techniques. They could try to get them from where they are to where they think they want to be, based on their guidance system, be it emotional or higher self or whatever, in their awakening journey.
Speaker 1:I totally, 100% agree.
Speaker 2:And we're learning ourselves along the way as we do it, because it's a dual experience. If I interact with a human and I'm providing some sort of channeled information, I always learn something about the layers of myself. How did that feel, or what was my thought on that or what did that. And it can be positive sometimes or it can be negative, but as you evolve you definitely get to a place where you realize that consequences are not inadvertent.
Speaker 2:They're precisely and concisely put into place for a purpose, but at the different levels, like some people just can't realize that elementary level or you know, middle school level in the school of hard knocks people. What does that look for?
Speaker 1:You always make the school reference. You're always making the school reference.
Speaker 2:That look was well. I wish we were a video because the look on your face was comical Was it good. I wouldn't say that I maybe would consider not ever doing that again.
Speaker 1:Well, because you're actually bringing into play. The topic exactly that I wanted to talk about is the people that are newly discovering themselves, or awakening, as they call. You know all the football cliches, whatever that is Right. You know they have a tendency to not understand everything when it happens and why it's happening or where it's happening, and they and they in a newly empowered energy of self-discovery and understanding themselves better, and you know the spiritual, the spiritual show, so to speak, on how they their part in that play and how they are developing that knowledge of themselves that is much greater than they ever had before. It gives them an energy and outlook of.
Speaker 1:I want everybody to feel that way. And why does this person feel negative when I do this? And they just don't understand the processes of it and, like I, like I've explained to many people over the time is, sometimes we do things that will affect others and sometimes their vibration will be different in yours and you'll grow apart. Sometimes you'll you'll match vibrations and you'll grow together even closer, and sometimes nothing changes other than you and that's the only thing you can truly worry about and go with the flow. Continue your process when you get those pop-up windows that want you to click that button. You don't have to click the button.
Speaker 2:No, you don't have to, for sure.
Speaker 1:And you don't have to buy into it is what I'm trying to get to. You don't have to buy into that negativity. You don't have to buy into those things, because the reality is the only time you'll affect the reality is when they allow you to affect the reality. If they give you that power, then that's on them, not on you. And it's okay to have self-discovery, it's okay to have emotions, it's okay to be who you are.
Speaker 2:It's even okay to share it without expectation or insistence on how they're going to process the information. Agreed, they're going to process the information. In other words, if you go and share something that's exciting to you and you're excited about it, you go and share it with your best friend or your mate or you know co-worker and they don't have a certain behavior about it or they even have a negative response to it. You get to decide how you process that experience and some people will say, well, guy, you're so negative this was a good experience for me and exciting, yeah and be disappointed in a sense, or aggravated or frustrated some sort of lower emotion on your emotional guidance system about how that person responded. And usually it's because you went into the experience thinking it was going to play out in your head a certain way not knowing what their belief patterns and programs that they're working with on that subject
Speaker 2:are and what you will activate, because it may not be an exciting topic or even experience for the other people, because they have different storylines and different things, they're pulling from history and different police patterns and programs that they're working with, and then what happens is kind of this perpetual loop of okay. So I shared, I shared this exciting experience with this person. They didn't have this is a a trip up point and what why I'm bringing it about. They didn't have the response that I thought they should have.
Speaker 1:Expectation.
Speaker 2:The expectation. Enter the insistent expectation.
Speaker 1:Which are recipes for disaster?
Speaker 2:Yes, and so, therefore, therefore, they are either God, they're so grumpy and negative.
Speaker 1:I know man, that person over there is just not nice to me anymore.
Speaker 2:Or the person takes it and goes internal with it and says, wow, maybe I'm doing something wrong. Maybe I don't deserve to have this good feeling thing happen to me. Maybe I am not worthy, maybe I am the abnormal one. Maybe I'm't deserve to have this good feeling thing happen to me. Maybe I am not worthy.
Speaker 1:Maybe I am the abnormal one, maybe.
Speaker 2:I'm the problem, I shouldn't have done that, and so it can go both ways Agreed. You can get to a place where that person you shared with is just not there yet and you can see the relationship kind of dissolving and dissipating.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And maybe not wanting it to, or unfortunately, some people will turn it and twist it on themselves.
Speaker 1:And turn it into an excuse to quit what they're doing.
Speaker 2:Yeah and question what they're doing and use it as kind of an out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know the pop-up window. Like I said, when you put that window that pops up on your computer that says you have a virus, click this button to remove it. You know, if you click the button, you have an expectation that it's going to remove this virus and really what you're doing is creating an open door for bad things to happen, because you have now clicked this button with an expectation that something's going to happen and that's kind of how I described it in in.
Speaker 1:you know the interactions is, you get to understand that these things pop up and you cannot turn it against yourself, because your reality is only affected by what you do, not by what other people do, unless you give that person or other people the power to affect your reality. And so if you are translating this from an expectation into self-guilt, then we need to look at that belief behind it and figure out why you're self-guilting yourself.
Speaker 2:How many selves can you use in a sentence? How many selves does it take to hang a light bulb?
Speaker 1:How much self would a self subscribe? If a self could subscribe its own self? Oh my God, it's getting deep, but you know. So the conversation is basically around how the person, or people, translate how they're receiving information based off that scenario.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's definitely a good thing to be aware of.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And a cool tool. This brings about a cool tool.
Speaker 1:Are you a?
Speaker 2:poet, I am a poet.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, you didn't know it either, did you? Remy McMrimerson in the house. Oh my goodness McMrimerson, that's the worst beatbox ever.
Speaker 2:Is. It's a fun way to kind of test yourself when you're working on a. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:Go ahead, I'm interrupting you. No, I'm listening.
Speaker 2:It's a fun way to kind of give yourself a pop quiz. When you're working on something, go and share it with somebody and see what what their response does to you and what emotion it triggers, and kind of work backwards in the process. Yes, because if it brings up some sort of emotion that is shy of feeling good and joyful, or it brings up an experience that's not quite pleasant, then it's an opportunity for you to go within and figure out why. Are you leaning too much on the them esteem and still kind of worrying about pleasing the people outside of you, or are you carrying around, like you said, some guilt?
Speaker 1:Or are you working on something for the wrong reasons?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, that's a good one.
Speaker 1:If you're not working on it for you, then you're doing it completely for the wrong reasons.
Speaker 2:Well, and just to take that a step further, are you working on it for the pure joy of it?
Speaker 1:for the pure joy of it.
Speaker 2:Or are you working on it to bring about a end result Right, like, for example okay, well, I'm going to clear this and work on this, because that way I can clean up my belief system and I'll never have to experience the emotions of sadness or anger or unhappiness ever again in my whole life. Life will settle down, it'll calm down and life will just be blissful and happy and good.
Speaker 1:Sorry, yeah.
Speaker 2:That's not what we came here for.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:And so that's a very that's an expectation that trips a lot of people up. They think that their goal or their mission is to get to that place. The reality is is that we already know what that feels like. We've just allowed ourselves to forget, right? So that we could know what that feels like We've just allowed ourselves to forget, so that we could come here Agreed, and so you're basically wanting to go back to the place where you came from and that's not really how this whole game works.
Speaker 1:No see, that's one of the conversations that I had was you are not here on this planet to live experiences through others. You're here on this planet to live experiences through others. You're here on this planet to live experiences through you that have players in those experiences that are others.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and they're designed by you to cause triggers.
Speaker 1:But at the same time and cause happiness.
Speaker 2:Cause happiness, cause joy, but at the same time and cause happiness Cause happiness Cause joy. Yeah, help, because that way you can experience all of the emotions that are on that scale.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that pop-up window when it comes up and you're in that crossroads of do I click the button or do I not click the button. Okay, what happens if I click the button? When am I going to click the button? They go through all this mind and the reality, the simple truth of it. I want to say that, not reality. I'm going to quit saying reality so much, because reality is really one of my words that I use. Reality a lot on, and in my reality it's way too many realities.
Speaker 1:Well, the reality of it is the simple truth is I say reality way too much and I'm sorry everybody that listens- that we're actually spiritual beings having a dream that we're humans. Oh, so it's a simulation.
Speaker 2:So this is all just a simulation anyway.
Speaker 1:You know, I just talked about this in my seminar.
Speaker 2:So reality really is not even reality.
Speaker 1:We just went over this in my power of thought school about how, when something comes into reality and you have a thought, and that thought becomes a simulation in your mind Like, for example, you say to yourself I'm hungry, you will instantaneously create a simulation in your mind of what you're going to eat, where you're going to eat it at and what it is that you want.
Speaker 1:And you'll have this and your body will subconsciously go through the motions to make that simulation true, because it becomes a belief that that's what we're going to do. And the belief behind it, our body, will always make true Right. And so changing your thought process to create positive simulations in your mind is the key to developing a positive thought process that affects your reality better. And so the simulation theory that everybody talks about in the quantum physics is actually a very, very provable theory.
Speaker 2:An interesting.
Speaker 1:An interesting theory.
Speaker 2:Take me, for example. I only have three feedings a week on the weekends and the rest of the week three feedings that's so funny and the rest of the week I kind of just don't eat. Eat what's categorized by others as junk and garbage. Oh my god, how can you eat so many carbs and stay the size that you are? Disclaimer ilaimer.
Speaker 1:I do feed my wife very well. She chooses to only eat certain foods in certain ways, and so we go out for her feedings and then she buys to-go's to bring home and warm up throughout the week. Just to clarify she is not malnourished, so don't report me.
Speaker 2:No, that's exactly the point I was trying to get at is that your beliefs can create scenarios and situations where certain things are just not necessary anymore. Of me, constantly, in my personal reality, will comment on my not drinking water like they think I should, or oh yeah, what I eat, I'm kind of a carb carb nibbler yeah, everybody wants to project their beliefs on everybody else when it comes to yeah oh my god, you need to stop eating so many carbs, and blah, blah, blah, you know, and they'll give you a whole list of things.
Speaker 2:I even had an experience which was very interesting. We bought the motor coach recently and I had several people come up and tell me how beautiful it is and how exciting it is. And I had one individual come up to me and say I noticed your new toy out there. And then she proceeded to share her daughter's horror story with theirs and how the hurricane obliterated it in the first days that they owned it and that it was just a big money pit and they finally got rid of it and were so glad I was like well gosh, I'm sorry to hear that it was such a tough journey for them, but mine's perfect.
Speaker 2:Mine's perfectly perfect and I'm enjoying every aspect of it. I found myself saying why do humans do that?
Speaker 1:They do it all the time.
Speaker 2:And why did I bring that into my reality, Like what was it supposed to be representative of.
Speaker 1:They like to project their negative stuff.
Speaker 2:Right, but if I create my own reality, what was the purpose of bringing that into my reality? Like what was I supposed to take away from that? I don't really know because initially I found myself aggravated, wishing this human would just not talk to me if that's all that they're gonna bring forth to communicate about. And so energetically I was like, nope, mine's perfect. And I shooed them away because I'm like, oh, you can take your dirty diaper nonsense and go somewhere else. And usually she's a very pleasant individual.
Speaker 2:And so I was uncertain about the interaction and what exactly I had constructed that for.
Speaker 1:I have. One of the individuals came up to me yesterday and said oh my God, I'm so happy for you and Jenny. Y'all are going to make such great memories in that, like my husband and I did for years, even though we didn't take it out that much, we but when we did it, made such great memories with the family and I'm very happy for you too. I was like that's how life should be, Come on, why can't everybody?
Speaker 1:be that way Not once did you say anything negative about oh my God, it's a money pit.
Speaker 2:None of that stuff. Yeah, and who cares? Yeah, I don't want to what the learning is from at the time that it happens. And eventually we go along and sometimes we will get additional information on what it was we were supposed to learn from it. Or sometimes it'll kind of pop in and it'll be like, oh, now I understand. And then there's other times where we just get no more information about it and it just kind of stays a mystery yeah, but staying easy about it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and not getting tricked up about it. That just goes to show that pop-up windows can come in the form of humans.
Speaker 2:They definitely can. A lot of times they do, yeah, a lot of times they do.
Speaker 1:They come can. A lot of times they do, yeah, a lot of times they do. They come in form of humans, they come in form of dreams.
Speaker 2:That come in form of of daydreams traffic, traffic.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's good radio grocery store line podcasts you know it can be electrical computerized equipment now, what you do with that podcast is is up to you.
Speaker 1:Or what you do with that pop-up not podcast but pop-up is up to you and how you look at it and address it. But you know the reality. See, I say reality way too damn much, golly. In simple terms, we have options. We create places in our bubble when we work on our beliefs. That gives us options always. We are always in control of our reality and we have options. It's how we choose to use or exercise those options.
Speaker 2:Or view them, or view them.
Speaker 1:That can create an easier path or a non-easier path, but it's really up to our beliefs and our options that we choose to take on it. Yeah your path but it's really up to our beliefs and our options that we choose to take on it. Yeah, and when we come to a point of these pop-up windows keep hitting the same topic and you just keep hitting the little X at the top right-hand corner.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Instead of looking at the whole document. It'll keep coming up because there's something that your higher self is trying to show you. But that don't mean pop, but that don't mean click on the button. That just means you need to look at that belief. So why it's popping up? Yeah, and maybe you can get ahead of the game a little bit.
Speaker 2:Right, yeah, it's usually a big indicator that you're ready to look at it and ready to discover the added information.
Speaker 1:Being open and receptive to them too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, from a place of um, well, definitely not from a place of fear or um, I don't know, the word eludes me. I guess what I'm trying to say is when the event keeps occurring, looking at it from an exploratory perspective and a curiosity rather than a fear-based, dreadful perspective is also very helpful, yeah. Because then you can actually squeeze out every ounce of knowledge and education in a positive manner.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I agree. You know the pop-up windows when they become identifiable, like when it's something that can be in a person on a computer and whatever it is. When the pop-up comes to you, it's because you're being open and receptive and you should embrace that in a positive manner.
Speaker 2:Yeah, definitely. I mean, we've talked about it before. Information is always being given to, given to you, it's just are you open and allowing it to come in? And it can come in many, many different forms, including pop-up windows on the computer, literally.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Like if you are trying to access a program or get on the computer and you keep having some weird pop-up window Damn.
Speaker 1:McAfee.
Speaker 2:You might want to look at the symbology of that, yeah, and say, okay, why is this happening? And say, okay, why is this happening? Because, as soon as you will. I know for me, when I have an experience that I'm enjoying, that's a repeated experience, especially with electronics. Yeah, the minute that I stop and look at it and say, okay, you know what, this is, a symbol of something that I'm ready to look at, then additional information will come in and I'll be able to determine what it's representing. And the minute that I make the correlation and the acknowledgement and the awareness, the computer, for example, will begin to behave correctly. The computer, for example, will begin to behave correctly. Yeah, it's amazingly magical and it makes me laugh and chuckle how the different types of information can come in, either literal or in a symbol.
Speaker 2:Yes, I totally 100% agree, it's always a good idea to look at each scenario, person, place, event when it's feeling a little off or wonky, and look at the literal standpoint of the information coming in. Is there a literal translation of the language or the verbology that's being given to you? Or is it representative of some sort of symbolic representation? Because, as we well know, english language words themselves have multiple definitions and, depending on the flexion in your voice, can have multiple different meanings. Yeah, in the English language.
Speaker 2:Totally agree so it's just a good idea to look at it from a Sherlock Holmes, from a different perspective. Yeah, yeah, I totally agree.
Speaker 1:Now, the other part of pop-up windows that I wanted to talk on is when we choose to, after we okay. So let me back up. We've created a pop-up window that brings to our reality a topic and then we have a belief, and then we engage in that belief. The thought of the domino effect behind it has sometimes, in my experience, hinders you from truly looking at it deeply, because you think you, you develop these thoughts, thoughts of of, oh my God, if I do this and this and this and this and this is going to happen, and you know, and one of those things you don't like, and so it stops you from engaging in it. And I see this a lot in people.
Speaker 1:When and I've done it before, you know I've done it I'm sure you have to do where you don't decide not to look at a belief because how it's going to affect others. And in a perfect world, I can tell you we shouldn't do that. We should always look at our beliefs, but we have a tendency as humans to do that a lot, and it's okay for you to stop and say listen, I want to have no intended consequences based on this pop-up window. I want to look at the belief properly and I want to look at it wholeheartedly and and stop for me getting these repeated pop-up windows, you know, like when we can make it, we have to make it, okay, I guess, is what I'm trying to say. Either way, that was a long about the roundabout way of getting to it, because the fear, belief behind it of having a domino effect that affect others in either positive or negative ways can hinder you from truly living that belief.
Speaker 2:I mean if you're living your life based on the concern that you're going to negatively affect other people, you're still living in a template that's outside of yourself.
Speaker 1:I agree.
Speaker 2:And that's not necessarily always the healthiest way to go about it. It still keeps you trapped in a grid of them esteem, in a sense, yeah, and it will prevent you from, or cause hesitation on, your growth and development. I'm not saying go around and be a douche bag to everybody because you don't have to worry about anybody or everybody. What I'm saying is, if you are constantly trying your best to make sure that you are in alignment with the higher vibrational emotions of neutrality, balanceability, joy, excitement, peace.
Speaker 2:Harmony peace harmony and you're staying in that upper level, then by nature of the mechanism, you will put off actions, comments, thought processes, energy from that place of vibration which will not necessarily come off as rude, unprofessional, douchebag behavior. You won't act that way if you're truly looking at yourself and that's why I always go back to the premise of it starts with you. Yes, the premise of it starts with you. Every situation, every circumstance, every event starts with you, continues with you ends with you.
Speaker 2:Because if you are vibrating at a higher frequency happy, healthy, wholesome, neutral, whatever then you're putting off that vibration, which in turn will cause you to put off action, steps, thought processes and behaviors from that place of frequency rather than the lower places of frequency.
Speaker 1:I agree with you 100% on. Well, let me back up a minute. When we live an intentional field life and we are vibrating at that higher level, we should be at an awakened place. When we have pop-up windows that come up in any form or fashion, that we can look at it in a positive manner and realize, like you said before, that this journey is not happening to us, it's happening for us and we can look at it from a better, open, 360 degree radius of awakening processes and having a better, greater understanding of why it's happening when we stay positive about it. You agree.
Speaker 2:I mean should is a word I don't generally like to use everybody's on their own journey, and there is no should. Each, each individual, could play with that concept, but there are people that are not there yet yeah, yeah. And the way we go about things is not the all, of all books on what this is all supposed to look like. So should what.
Speaker 1:Should needs to be not a word you use. Are you saying that I am not God?
Speaker 2:Because it is an indicator that if you're not doing it this way, then you're doing it wrong.
Speaker 1:I agree, you know you're right.
Speaker 2:That's not the energy I want to put out there, so you the should word it. I mean, hey, do you, whatever that looks like.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because it's all correct about being open. It's all right, it's all. You're not doing anything wrong.
Speaker 2:I mean, even if it feels kind of junky, perhaps that's where you're supposed to be for your own evolution.
Speaker 1:And you're doing it on your own timeline as well. I think that's where, like when I work with people, they have a tendency to want to rush through it. That's all folks they want to. I use my. Are you? What are you?
Speaker 2:I couldn't help it. All I could see was that little character that says blah, blah, blah, that's all folks.
Speaker 1:I mean, are you making fun of my stutter?
Speaker 2:Kind of because it was funny to me.
Speaker 1:That's my pop-up window of disrespect. I'm kidding, I'm kidding.
Speaker 2:Your issue, your problem. I'll see you later when you're done working on it.
Speaker 1:Now I lost my train of thought. What was I going to talk about?
Speaker 2:See, what I did.
Speaker 1:See what you did.
Speaker 2:Nope, it wasn't me. You gave me the power to do it.
Speaker 1:And really I guess what I'm trying to get across is pop-up windows and situations that come up in your reality are normal. Situations that come up in your reality are normal. It's not something that you have to view negative or a big stop sign in growth or any of that stuff. It is what it is.
Speaker 2:And to be open and receptive to it is the key to unlocking that pop-up window's power in your reality. Yeah, I mean, I think the overall message to get out is that if you see repetition occurring in your reality of a circumstance or event or a message, it may be time to stop and look at it and see what is it trying to tell you, show you that you may be ready to explore deeper, because you've asked for some sort of change or some sort of advancement in your journey and, when you look at it, being open and receptive, from the vibration of curiosity and exploration instead of from a place of fear. That way, all the information has an opportunity to come in and be identified by you in an easier way, and you can then begin to have a deeper understanding about yourself and why this particular topic is popping up in your reality. And then you can choose from there do you want to change it, modify it?
Speaker 1:Or own it.
Speaker 2:Or keep it.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Or completely dissolve it and replace it with something else. Yeah, I know where I was going with my thoughts. Good Is everybody.
Speaker 1:We have a tendency to project our human timeline on things, and when things happen like that, we expect it to go real fast and we wanted to get it over with quick. And what everybody needs to understand is your timeline is created by yourself.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And if you humanly interact into it, then you're going to cause your own self-frustration, because reality, I said it again, golly, I had one goal today. It's not to say reality, I had one goal.
Speaker 2:It's kind of like when you buy that car that's orange, then all you see are the orange cars. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Never once seen a motor coach in Florida until we bought one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I would be curious to see where this journey takes you. Yeah, what is it about reality that keeps you from being okay? Just saying it repetitively.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm sure people get tired of hearing reality, reality, reality, reality.
Speaker 2:That's the story you're creating in your head. It is.
Speaker 1:That's a pop-up window for me.
Speaker 2:It's a pop-up window.
Speaker 1:Maybe I'm running from reality.
Speaker 2:Maybe you have an opportunity to look at it and see what it means.
Speaker 1:I think the simplified steps of all of it for me when I get a pop-up is to stop and look at it openly.
Speaker 1:Any steps of all of it for me when I get a pop-up, is to stop and look at it openly. Any jukes left, ladies and gentlemen? I did. I dove away from that topic. I I just wanted to bring up that topic because it had been um in my reality the last couple days from a couple people and and myself, and I see it happening all the time. But I think the pop-up windows of life are part of our awakening process. I'm not going back to that so you can take the smile off your face.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:It's your reality. Oh, here we go. Anyway, so on this topic, on the pop-up window topic, I feel pretty complete. What about you?
Speaker 2:I am always complete sir.
Speaker 1:You are Do I complete you.
Speaker 2:At times.
Speaker 1:Oh nice. How often, how many times.
Speaker 2:I'm not at liberty to discuss that. Okay, hey, we appreciate you all listening today as many times as necessary.
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