The Spiritual Grind

Unraveling the Fabric of Alternate Realities

Dr. Jenni and James Season 2 Episode 7

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Ever wondered what really happens in the Bermuda Triangle or if aliens are already among us? Join us on a whimsical journey as we explore the enigmatic world of conspiracy theories, with a dash of humor and a sprinkle of curiosity. We kick off with a personal tale from a ferry trip to the Bahamas that had us questioning if we’d inadvertently passed through the Bermuda Triangle—without a trace! It’s the perfect blend of amusing anecdotes and intriguing mysteries that will have you questioning what you thought you knew about the world.

Could a secret weather machine be behind the perplexing disappearances in the Bermuda Triangle? We take you on a wild ride through theories of hidden technologies and the idea that our reality might be more magical than mundane. From clandestine government operations to the mysteries of the multiverse, we ponder the possibility that everything imagined might exist somewhere. And what about those ancient species like the Anunnaki? Are governments in cahoots with a "galactic enterprise" to drip-feed us the truth about extraterrestrial life? You're in for a thought-provoking conversation that walks the line between fact and fantastical fiction.

Communication takes center stage as we unravel the mysteries of subliminal messaging and the shifting media landscape. Imagine marketers being subtly hypnotized by hidden cues from a magician—it sounds like a trick, but what does it mean for public perception? As we explore the evolution of human interaction, we dive into the realm of new media and its role in shaping our reality. From lizard people in politics to the portrayal of different species coexisting with us, we invite you to question what’s behind the curtain of perception. Join us as we navigate this thrilling maze of beliefs and conspiracy theories, challenging you to expand your understanding of the unknown.

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Speaker 1:

Good morning everybody. Good morning, good morning Dr Janie. How are you today?

Speaker 2:

What is that? That's my high-pitched voice. It reminds me of that you remember on. I think it was on Saturday Night Live.

Speaker 1:

Look at me, look what I can do.

Speaker 2:

The little dough boy or the little clay boy.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I thought it was. What was that guy's name?

Speaker 2:

Look at me, look what I can do. Yeah, he was made out of clay.

Speaker 1:

Oh, anyway, I can't remember his name.

Speaker 2:

I felt like he had that kind of voice. Well, good morning Dr.

Speaker 1:

Jeannie.

Speaker 2:

You're so weird sometimes.

Speaker 1:

I am weird, that's okay, I own it. I prefer to be weird than normal.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

I don't want to be conformed. Conformed, yeah, that's the proper word. Good morning everybody. Thank you all for listening today. That's our shenanigans that we deal with every day. But hey, I got a fun topic today. Okay, this is one that keeps bumping into my reality that I keep putting it off because I don't want to. I keep putting it off of societal beliefs, that I don't want to fall into the trend of everybody else and what they're doing. But who cares? Right, let's just have fun.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

That's what it's about is having fun, and so my topic of the day is going to be fun to explore, and I know our editor is going to love it. Oh God, I'm so sorry.

Speaker 2:

Let me apologize beforehand. Editor.

Speaker 1:

We're going to talk about conspiracy theories.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

And what brought it up this morning was kind of a well, I've been thinking about it anyway for a while about bringing it as a topic because everybody liked the Are we Alone podcast.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

And that's kind of a conspiracy theory. And there's a bunch of them out there. And this morning when we were having our coffee and we were sitting out on the patio, the thing popped up that they're picking up radio signals from a dead universe and they're revealing it and how they sprinkle the information to us.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's funny, a dead universe.

Speaker 1:

But they get radio signals from a dead universe and of course they say scientifically that it takes light years for that sound to get to us Right. But the reality is is there. They know a lot more than they let on, I think, and the conspiracy behind that one is is they just sprinkle it to us so we don't. It doesn't send us into mass hysteria, because everybody will freak out if, if they actually realize that there are more than us out there, freak out if they actually realize that there are more than us out there.

Speaker 2:

I mean, that's the premise.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I think we're coming closer and closer to being in a place where there's not going to be any freak out.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think, I believe. So I think we're in that segue to where it's about to be revealed to us pretty soon.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

That we do have other life forms and they've known about it for a very long time, just like the UFOs and the files they released and all that stuff. But there's another conspiracy theory I want to talk about, okay, and this one revolves around a mystery for many years and why that happens, and this is called the Buda triangle, okay, and how things disappear and how things in that area will just fall off the grid, like the five um military planes that disappeared and the all the boats over the years that have disappeared I did have wonder, you know, when we took the ferry over to the Bahamas, did we go through that?

Speaker 1:

We went through part of it. We did the very corner of it.

Speaker 2:

yes, Dang, and we didn't disappear.

Speaker 1:

No.

Speaker 2:

I'm a little disappointed that we didn't disappear, even though it was kind of going back in time.

Speaker 1:

It was kind of going back in time over there a little bit.

Speaker 2:

What do you mean?

Speaker 1:

Well, I mean like there's no stoplights, there's no police, there's nothing there that really controls the masses.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the driving experience by itself was.

Speaker 1:

Entertaining, and that was only on golf carts.

Speaker 2:

Quite comical.

Speaker 1:

Of course I don't think I seen a car at all, did you?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we saw cars Goofball. Cars I saw golf carts. No, there were cars. There were yeah, there were vehicles.

Speaker 1:

Okay, maybe I'm crazy.

Speaker 2:

They didn't stand out to me.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, there were cars everywhere.

Speaker 2:

Okay, to see a whole different country driving what, what, what I would view as chaotic yeah, you know that little mall that we went shopping in, like they have no qualms about turning in front of you they don't use blinkers. Well, first of all, they drive on the wrong side of the road or the opposite. I won't say wrong, they drive on the opposite side of the road or the opposite. I won't say wrong, they drive on the opposite side of the road. And that experience by itself is very different.

Speaker 1:

I think that there are more countries that drive on that side of the road than there are the ones that drive on the side of the road that we drive on. I think the majority of countries drive that way. It actually makes more sense.

Speaker 2:

You have to train your mind to make turns differently and the whole like looking both ways. I remember in driving school. You come up to a stop sign, you look in the direction of the traffic that could possibly hit you first, so you have to like cross over that information to do everything opposite. It's like being in a day of opposite. Yeah, it was remember those days you played uh opposite day where you'd say things differently, or where?

Speaker 1:

where your clothes?

Speaker 2:

inside out, yeah, opposite day I remember those. We had those in school it was kind of like experiencing that in an adult, in In real life yeah.

Speaker 1:

You know how many of those houses didn't have power Like that place where we went shopping and you bought the sweatshirt?

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 1:

Their power was battery operated. You see it all hooked up.

Speaker 2:

Yeah yeah, they didn't have actual power there. That's the kind of stuff we like to explore when we go vacationing is how does the other half live?

Speaker 1:

And how do they get power there? I didn't see a power plant or nothing.

Speaker 2:

I don't know.

Speaker 1:

That's kind of an interesting thought actually.

Speaker 2:

Anyway, no, no, no, no, no, no, no Are they using Tesla's coil Maybe. Maybe they're using the energy from the Bermuda Triangle.

Speaker 1:

The Bermuda Triangle. So here's the conspiracy that's going on and I was reading about it yesterday, and it's about the Bermuda Triangle and I kind of brought it up in a joking way this morning you did yeah.

Speaker 2:

Did I miss?

Speaker 1:

it. Disclaimer we do not care what your political preferences are. Do not care, do not care, we do not care. Neither one of us really vote, so we don't even care. But the conspiracy theory that went out was is how Florida won't have hurricanes for four years now because Trump takes over and he lives in Florida and now, and we've had so many hurricanes over the last four years we had three since he went out of office and they think that, you know, because the weather machine's in the Bermuda Triangle and that's why everything disappears. When they get close to that weather machine that is cloaked on radar, or these planes or boats get close to it, they take them out.

Speaker 2:

I think they suck them up.

Speaker 1:

Yes, and they say, the weather creating machine is over there and there's also supposed to be one down by Cuba somewhere.

Speaker 2:

And so they suck them up because they don't want them to find out that the machine's there.

Speaker 1:

Nothing. They want it in no way, shape or form to be able to get out, so they will make it all disappear. And so now the Trump's in office, they say that we're not going to have any hurricanes for four years. So I'm going to see how that goes.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so stay tuned, folks.

Speaker 1:

We're going to track the hurricane existence this year. That's our scientific experiment, and so the the conspiracy theory is that the bermuda triangle it's got their weather machine in it. When anybody gets close to it, they make them disappear, and then they created the story that it's got this magnetic polarity. Well, yeah, it's because they're getting a weather machine there. It messes with the compass, because every one of the stories are the compasses went crazy and they have this weather machine that creates weather somehow. That would be my guess, because I know they do it over the dry lands in Nebraska and stuff. They create clouds up there by doing some kind of seeding, cloud seeding or something.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

And so that's the conspiracy theory about it.

Speaker 2:

What is the conspiracy theory?

Speaker 1:

That the Bermuda Triangle doesn't really exist, that it's actually the military or the government removing people that get close to that weather machine, so there's no chance whatsoever that anything could ever get out about it.

Speaker 2:

Oh, so that it doesn't get exposed to the masses.

Speaker 1:

It doesn't get exposed. It doesn't get exposed To the masses.

Speaker 2:

Yes, so then, what do they do with these people that they suck off or suck up or like?

Speaker 1:

What just happened.

Speaker 2:

Well, I mean like you know I envision them sucking them up in a little tube, and what do they do?

Speaker 1:

with them.

Speaker 2:

They make their human existence stop. Like what do they?

Speaker 1:

do with them after they suck them up in a little vacuum?

Speaker 2:

Where do they put them?

Speaker 1:

They shoot them down, they sink their boats, whatever I don't know, and they let them go to the bottom of the ocean. What do they call that? You know, something's locker davy's locker.

Speaker 2:

They send them to davy's locker.

Speaker 1:

Okay, gosh that locker better be pretty big yeah, but you know they have found a couple of those planes. Then they do the conspiracy behind that. Now, the five planes that went missing they had three planes that went missing.

Speaker 2:

That made me tear up.

Speaker 1:

And then they sent a search group to go looking for the three planes, and of the three planes, two of those went missing.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

And they. Recently we were watching that show where one of those discovery boats that does all they do is go out looking for sunken ships and these stories supposedly located parts of one of those fighter jets that had battle wounds on it, like it had been shot down, oh, down, oh. And so I was just curious to know I mean, is that conspiracy true? Because there's almost always some kind of basis of truth to the conspiracies and they just make it either a too extreme that people won't believe it, or b they play it down and then it just disappears yeah, so do you want to have the rabbit hole conversation?

Speaker 1:

or do you want to have the?

Speaker 2:

let me keep it clean so that humans don't flip out, because there is another thing to say about that. But anyway, go ahead, okay.

Speaker 1:

About the aliens under the ocean that when you get close to their base, they make them disappear too. They make the humans disappear Because it's also the same place, that Bermuda Triangle is the same place. Because it's also the same place, that Bermuda Triangle is the same place. They see all those lights and the UFOs that go shooting underwater. That's all in the Bermuda Triangle.

Speaker 2:

But it's not just there.

Speaker 1:

Not just there, but the majority of the American videos are from the Bermuda Triangle.

Speaker 2:

I see, because that's happening all over.

Speaker 1:

I agree, but in Tanzania they say oh many, many places.

Speaker 2:

They say in Tanzania that the Mount Kilimanjaro, yeah, I mean it's happening in California, it's happening in Texas, it's happening in other countries like the UK, like there's hot spots all over where it's going on. That's a.

Speaker 1:

So what's the rabbit hole discussion of that.

Speaker 2:

Of the Bermuda Triangle.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I mean well, so we'll trickle down the ladder.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

Well, okay, so everything happens for a reason. Everything is happening simultaneously. Okay, so everything happens for a reason. Okay, everything is happening simultaneously.

Speaker 2:

So, if you think about things on a huge multiverse in order for each individual to have their experience within reality, anything that we can possibly drum up in our imagination exists, yeah, and what we choose to do with it as humans is is just that it's a choice either we play with it, participate in it, or we are just oblivious to it and ignore it. Based on what we come to experience and learn from whatever it is, whatever the topic is, that's the first thing to wrap one's mind around. Is that anything you can? If you sit right here right now and tell me the most absurd, quick little descriptive paragraph of something you can imagine it exists?

Speaker 2:

somewhere, somehow, I agree because it serves a purpose for someone, something we're going quantum physics here, guys.

Speaker 1:

That's what you know to experience.

Speaker 2:

And it has to be that way, because if you talk about all that is, all that is is all that is. Every single thing exists in all that is, by nature of its design and its definition of all that is.

Speaker 1:

So maybe we should.

Speaker 2:

Literally all that is Every single daydream that anybody has had any single thought that anybody's had. I wonder if this is happening or this exists that's how all that is, grows and evolves is by putting over souls and then next level souls and then next level humans out here with free will to see what we can imagine and come up with and bring into existence, to experience a very profound, um, like you just can't even imagine the large gigatrillion concepts that are out there, so that we have the opportunity in the universal library to experience any and all of it if we choose to. Yeah, so everything that you've said about the bermuda triangle, it exists. Yeah, somewhere there's Triangle. It exists somewhere. There's a timeline where it exists, so that if someone comes along and says, oh, you know what I want to experience, flying over the Bermuda Triangle in a plane and I want to be sucked off or disappear, and be put in Davie's locker, then that exists.

Speaker 2:

I want to go into a perpetual place where I don't know where I'm at, and I mean that exists. I want to be able to travel through there and have the experience of having nothing happen. That exists.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so describe quantum kind of give a quick description of quantum physics and what you're trying to describe, because there's a lot of people that's probably never even heard of quantum physics, and that's kind of where she's going with this, by the way, is in this quantum physics.

Speaker 2:

Don't tell me where I'm going with it what you're describing so far is. Look at the definition of quantum physics. You're a little off. I am, yeah, okay, a little bit Okay.

Speaker 1:

I thought they talked about the multidimensional.

Speaker 2:

Well, they do, but I'm not diving into quantum physics right now.

Speaker 1:

Okay. Well then carry on, my wayward son.

Speaker 2:

Well I'm done, oh, you are word son. Well I'm done, oh you're.

Speaker 1:

That's all that is like it has to exist that way. So what more do you want to talk about? We're done, all right, have a good day. No, it's good, and so the next conspiracy theory I would want to talk about is the so all of those things, so just to clarify I thought you were done all of those you said I'm done, and so what do you want to talk about next? Bye, have a good day.

Speaker 2:

I thought maybe you were going to elaborate on it.

Speaker 1:

All of those things.

Speaker 2:

Like it's an energy vortex.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

It is a place where there are disappearances that occur because somebody wants to experience it. Because somebody wants to experience it. It is a place where the foreigners, aliens, other entities, go into the water and live there, work there. Whatever it is that as well, it is all of that.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

But at the same time, it is none of that.

Speaker 1:

Now they're really confused.

Speaker 2:

Right, I'm playing. All that is has to be all that is, so it has to be all of that and it has to be none of that at the same time.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

It has to be just by design. That's the way it works.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

That's all you got.

Speaker 1:

That's all I got. I mean, it's not, it's I. When it comes to that thought process, I am not to the point where I can really fathom the complete complexity of that.

Speaker 2:

And so.

Speaker 1:

I really don't have much to talk about on it. I have. You know, I think I'm much more. I have learned a lot more in the last few years about it than I ever have.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so let's back up just a little bit. We'll talk about it on a different level okay beep, beep. So it is within the evolution of the planet and the and the entities or humans on the planet to experience an existence where the unearthing of the existence of another species must happen. And we're on the precipice.

Speaker 1:

You're all over it today. First we're sucking off and now we're pushing. You are all over it today. But the reality is that they've already uncovered other life forms the, the anunnaki this, you know, the nine foot tall people that were homo sapiens they have and and so they can't the way that it works is it works like any other topic, on a on a localized level.

Speaker 2:

When we're working with another human being and we're taking them through an awakened state, we have to take baby steps based on their beliefs, patterns and programs.

Speaker 2:

Well, the they has to take baby steps based on the collective's beliefs, patterns and programs, so that it doesn't shoot us back into a fear template and close down all of the energy around it.

Speaker 2:

So they have to feed it to us slowly and gingerly and let us digest one little bite at a time. So, because the goal is, whether you believe, the government is against or for, they're the ones that have been appointed by the galactic enterprise, if you will, to be the governing body of how fast the information gets fed, based on the entities that live above us in ships monitoring the vibrational frequency of the whole planet and of the collective. And so, as the galactic group, which is made up of all different kinds of species, is placed and positioned around the world in the spaceships that people are seeing, gathers the data of okay, where are we at with the collective frequency, the vibration? Has it raised to a point where we can share this information and it be accepted in an inquisitive and curious positive way? Or is the vibrational frequency too low to where, if we expose this piece of documentation, it's going to create a fear that's going to tip the balance and put us back into a fear template, which then stifles the energy of evolution?

Speaker 2:

That's basically what a conspiracy theory is.

Speaker 1:

I agree.

Speaker 2:

And the government, even though they, for most people, see them as this governing body that tells us all the laws and all the way that the government's going to go is their only job. On a bigger level, they're brought in to work with the galactic enterprise to govern the feeding out of the information. When they learned about it years ago, it was too early to share it with the masses. Yeah, Because it would have put us too far deep into that fear template too far deep into that fear template and it would have been trying to get everybody back out of. That would have been a more challenging journey than what was necessary okay.

Speaker 2:

So then the plan became to feed it to us a little bit at a time to gradually coax us out of being fear of that by giving us little bits and pieces at a time to desensitize us to that.

Speaker 1:

And they always do it with an explanation, you know, like the Anunnaki thing. They said that scientists are trying to. Oh yeah, they discovered this race of the Homo sapien descendant somewhere yeah and they're. They're nine to eleven foot tall.

Speaker 2:

They found them buried in I think it was in egypt, right and and they they've actually found them in many places, in many places, yeah, and there's many of the lithographs, the lithos, have exposed them as well, so they obviously were a another being on this planet at one time, and so what they do is they they're.

Speaker 1:

The scientists are discovering where they fit into our evolution and then that's all they say about it.

Speaker 2:

right, because the scientists have, you know, very boxed in thinking, and so as we give the information we, being the galactic, give the information to even the black and white kind of mentality Scientists we're coaxing them out of that boxed-in thought process as well, so that they can have a broader perspective and a more relaxed thought about okay, well, maybe this does exist, you know, just like the cryptids, we talk about all these, the yetis and the. What are some of them?

Speaker 1:

The Mothman and all of that. Oh, you mean all the like Bigfoot, the Abominable Snowman, Do they not? That's all conspiracy theory.

Speaker 2:

But if you stop in a scientific mind and look at the octopus, for example, if anybody ever watched any documentaries on the octopus and saw the incredible, amazing things that it can do, oh yeah it would. It would remind you that everything is a possibility, right? I mean, these guys can more turn different shapes and colors and colors. Without seeing what the shape and color is, they just sense the vibrational frequency of it and they become it a rock.

Speaker 1:

I watched this video of an octopus that got captured accidentally in a fishing net.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

And they unloaded it on the. You know, they'd always just dump the fish down on the boat and this eight, probably eight, ten foot foot, um, you know, wingspan octopus that they showed they picked up the tentacles and spread it out, and yeah, and then they, they moved it over to the other thing and they were going to release it after they got all their nets up all right well, this octopus, this big octopus I mean it was huge went through a four by four opening in the side wall to go back to the ocean.

Speaker 2:

Right, they have no bones.

Speaker 1:

And change colors. While he was doing it, he turned into a color of the ship, and so when somebody walked by, they couldn't see him. They couldn't see him, and so he looked like the black side of the ship and he just squeezed himself right through the hole.

Speaker 2:

Well, yeah, they have no bone structure. Yeah, existing without bone structure at one point in our evolution was unheard of. Yeah, you can't walk about, or move about without bones. At one point was a premise that scientists had.

Speaker 1:

So what if the cryptids don't have bones?

Speaker 2:

They don't Look at the octopus. That's a form of a cryptid, I agree is that's a form of a cryptid, I agree anyway. So where we're headed with that concept, like the bermuda triangle, is where we're going into, a place where we relax our beliefs and our thoughts around more of a air quote imagination concept where any and every and all things are possible, and not living in such a constructed confine of our mind that if we can't see it, it doesn't exist yeah, you know, do we want?

Speaker 1:

I was watching that show the other night. What is the name? Are we Alone? I think there's several.

Speaker 2:

we watch the Unexplained.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, anyway. So they were talking about how they kept seeing these lights over the ocean and they were going into the ocean and they thought that there was. One of the guys was saying I think there's an underground alien base. Of course there is Right off the coast of Belize. And one of the other guys said does anybody ever notice that all of these lights are always headed in the same direction, like they're all going to a centralized place? And and so he, like they, showed a map of the sightings in the last three or four years and how they're all actually headed in the same direction for some reason. And he went, this guy took, you know, they went out into discovery and was looking for this underground base and in the process of doing that they found literally what they think is the city of atlantis.

Speaker 1:

And it's like it's like got all the structure, it's got all this stuff and it goes for like 10 miles. There's a road there, you know all obvious man-made road, and so there's got to be some one of those things that they're just sprinkling it in.

Speaker 2:

Well, you have to understand the. We'll call them aliens, just because that's what they are, I guess, to the collective, the aliens, they go through their existence based on vibrational frequency. So if they're being seen in a localized place, it's because the frequency of that place is high enough for them to thrive and exist easily. They won't go into a dense frequency because their frequency is so high. Go into a dense frequency because their frequency is so high.

Speaker 2:

They've got to have a frequency that matches it somewhat, or they or they can't exist there, yeah, their, their physical structure will just not it, it won't work, thrive, it just won't survive. And so that's why it's localized like that in certain places, because the frequency is high yeah, I get it that's why it's localized like that in certain places, because the frequency is high.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I get it. That's the reality of that. Yeah, and so with the conspiracies is not only the Bermuda Triangle, but there's many of them out there, and I think there's one thing that all of them have in common is it feels like it's a controlled, released, very methodical way that they always do it hands down over and over and over, and then these conspiracy theories, like they'll get blocked from social media. They'll get basically just blasphemed all over the Internet when it always comes out that part of these conspiracy theories are always sprinkled in truth.

Speaker 2:

Your tongue tripped a little bit.

Speaker 1:

It was funny, it was I said conspiracy.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, it does. But when you say it's a controlled thing, don't get it confused with controlled, as far as we have no control over it. What we don't remember is that we agreed for it to be the way that it is so that we could experience the experience of it. Where we're going as a whole is we're going to a place of contact.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I agree we're getting our vibrations set to a higher level by getting rid of some of the baggage of fear and non-belief and all of those heavier frequency ideas, where we can raise our vibration so that we can have initial contact with the alien species one-on-one, where we can walk up to them just like we do each other and be able to interact with them in a way that's not fearful, in a way that is friendly and pleasant, and explore that. That's where we're headed with it, piece by piece, step by step.

Speaker 1:

I agree. I agree. We would be totally naive to think that we're the only people out there.

Speaker 2:

Right and the conspiracy theory, part of it comes from there. You know there are people at different levels in their vibrational frequency and in their awakening, and so there's some that just are not there yet to be able to digest even to the very basic thought that aliens even exist.

Speaker 2:

There still is a group of people that just can't even they can't even embrace that right, and that's what then creates the um, piece by piece, information that's exposed because we're trying to get them, uh, to embrace the concept at their pace, not necessarily at the pace where others are in a little bit more advanced or higher up the frequency chart place. Yeah, so that we can tip the balance, so that we can have that initial contact and go to that place where we live amongst each other as just two different species, kind of like we do now with humans and animals.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

You know it'll be humans and animals and aliens of all different kinds and species, because that's what we all agreed that we want to experience. Next is what would it be like to coexist with all of the beings? And with that will come expansion on technology and being able to use our energy to instantaneously we won't even need mouse anymore, because we'll communicate with our brain there are entities out there that don't I mean look at the house verbally at all.

Speaker 1:

They do it all energetically look at the house they're, they're who are? The house, the they're well, the ones that were the owls, the ones that we were, the, the guys that have the stick legs. They're real big and they have no mouth, but they, they can, they make the screaming noise and they have no. I mean, they have no mouth, but they make the screaming noise. And they have a mouth, but they have no eyes.

Speaker 2:

What are you talking about?

Speaker 1:

They were on the movie. We watched the Howls, the Mrs Peregrines.

Speaker 2:

Oh.

Speaker 1:

You know the Howls that were on there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

They're totally. You can't see them, but yet they can destroy you, okay, okay, that was a fun movie to watch last night. I enjoyed it. Actually, if y'all haven't seen that, this is pentagrams how home home for peculiar children. Okay, it was a good. It was a funny movie it was. It was a good. I enjoyed it. Actually it was. It kind of tells you it's one of those sprinkled in things, right. Yeah, all these kids that have all these hidden talents.

Speaker 2:

All the movies that we get exposed to, all of the rumor mill. There is truth to every aspect of that, aspect of that it's. It's obviously covered up a little bit with, you know, some peanut butter and jelly so that it's easier to digest. Um, because there's people out there that can't just totally open up and embrace that, and so we're trying to I say we because I'm part of that galactic. We all are on a subconscious level. You just may not know that you are.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

Which is a whole other topic.

Speaker 1:

So let's kind of switch gears. A minute let's talk about.

Speaker 2:

Switching gears.

Speaker 1:

The conspiracy theory of subliminal messaging.

Speaker 1:

Okay theory of subliminal messaging. Okay, we just watched that video yesterday morning to where there was a gentleman he was a magician actually and he actually subliminally messaged two marketers that set up marketing for a very large advertising firm by doing this fictitious company, and he wanted them to develop a, a logo, a name, um, a slogan and a some kind of graphic design in 30 minutes and the the key to all of it was is he actually picked them up at their hotel, drove them a 20 minute drive to their place and throughout this course of this 20 minutes, he hidden they had hidden these things where he know they would be looking at and to to subliminally give them the message that they want to do that he wanted them to do. And then the guy that did it put on, drew a picture of it and you also look it up. It's on YouTube.

Speaker 1:

It's actually pretty interesting video to watch and at the end of this thing, these guys actually drew almost an identical picture that this guy had drawn because he had subliminally messaged throughout their whole course of their hour interaction to draw this. And so here's one of the conspiracy theories behind it is all this stuff that that happens, like all the news and all that are all in some way linked together to either a think a certain way they want us to think or B to distract us from something they're trying to distract us from. There was a big discussion going on in one of the forums right now that popped in my thing yesterday and popped in my feed yesterday, and that's what there is a probably a thousand people having having disagreements or arguments back and forth about this whole scenario of if subliminal messaging is really there.

Speaker 2:

OK.

Speaker 1:

And I'm here to say it 100 percent is Absolutely Because, as you have been a hypnotist, we do it to each other.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we do, I agree, been a hypnotist we do it to each other?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we do, I agree.

Speaker 2:

On a subconscious level, we do it to each other all the time.

Speaker 1:

Being a hypnotist, you know all about the levels of consciousness.

Speaker 2:

Right. Absolutely Subliminal messaging happens all the time, even the people that don't believe in it. They're arguing for the platform that it doesn't exist. Don't believe in it. They're arguing for the platform that it doesn't exist they themselves. If they would stop and look at their day, they would see that they're doing it, even on a subconscious level, to the people that come to exist in their path and their journey. We do it all the time, all day, every day. We're always giving subliminal messages.

Speaker 1:

Correct.

Speaker 2:

That's the human level conversation that we can have.

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

If we take it to the rabbit hole conversation, what's really happening is that they're not what we have originally defined as subliminal messages, which is hiding the information in some cloaked verbology or visualization. It is reminding an individual of something they already know through a vibrational frequency. So what we are doing on a bigger scheme, on a bigger level, is we're learning how to play with the vibrational frequency so that we can communicate on a frequency level without without using the words.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, without using the words well, you know, because that's what I came to my mind when I watched that video the other day is how does this guy know that his subliminal messaging really worked? Or was it the fact of the energy he brought to the room with the message he was putting out and the vision in his own head of the drawing that he did and, within that unknown communication, passed the message on to these guys?

Speaker 2:

Well, by definition, that is a form of subliminal messaging. I agree if you really look at the definition completely open, if you are giving them. Here's the thing on a human level, we know that we can speak with our mouths and talk and that's a form of communication. We can visually communicate by doing pictures or the hieroglyphs, facial expressions body language.

Speaker 2:

What we've not embraced is communicating via energy, and that's what we're being taught and being shown a little bit at a time. So subliminal messaging, in essence, is just us encoding the energy with the message that we want to send to that individual or groups and them reading the energy of it, without it having to be communicated visually or verbally, and so that's just us practicing that technique, and we don't really even know that we're practicing that technique.

Speaker 1:

Right, okay, yeah, I totally, totally agree with that.

Speaker 2:

Once someone becomes aware that that's actually a viable form of communication and can be done with it, then you can begin to work with it and play with it and do little games, like you know putting drawing an image on a piece of paper but don't show your playmate or your partner and having them close their eyes, tap into the energy of what's on that piece of paper and seeing if they can come up with what is on the piece of paper energetically, if you wanted to practice more in depth playing with the energy, because energy holds codes and information.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you know, I got asked the other day what happened to the day when everything on the news was proven true before advertised. I know and this kind of all falls in together how it all marries is because back in the beginning of the Obama administration, when he first started, he actually signed a bill that was got this hidden, a hidden agenda in the backside of it on one of the sub sections, and it was about removing the truth in media and where they don't have to prove their sources anymore, they don't have to make everything true, and it also give the government full control on anything that was labeled as news bulletin. You notice those news bulletins went away and only time that can come out as a bulletin or something like that is if it's controlled and approved by the government.

Speaker 2:

I don't, because I don't watch it.

Speaker 1:

We don't watch the news, but there are majority people do.

Speaker 2:

No, I don't because I don't watch it. Yeah, we don't watch the news, but the majority of people do. Well, how do you know all of this news information? Where do you get it from?

Speaker 1:

I've signed this up because of our the Merc Center stuff. It's in through our social media. I'm on all these forums and I get alerts for them. It's not that I'm watching the news, but this is one of the topics. You can watch the news if you want. I know I'm a big boy. I can watch. I don't care to because the only thing it's about it's about murder and drama. I don't, I don't care to see it um.

Speaker 1:

It serves its purpose and right, they use it to serve a purpose in the same kind of way. Right, because news is a way of subliminal messaging and, of course and that is where this comes in the conspiracy theory that this subliminal messaging, the government is controlling why they've released the CIA documents, why they've done all these things in a quiet, secretive type manner and can manipulate how we do things.

Speaker 2:

Well, again, you're presenting it in such a way that it feels like we have no control over it.

Speaker 1:

No, I'm just doing what the forum people are talking about. I understand, but it could be interpreted that way.

Speaker 2:

But the reality is that it was all a pre-negotiated plan and there are people out there who want to have an experience of. The news is all lies and they're just trying to trick our brains into making us behave a certain way. There's a group of people out there that wanted to know what that felt like I agree and to work themselves out of that into a different thought process look, you're ruining the conspiracy theory talk okay, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2:

I don't mean to ruin it, but I thought that's what you wanted, I'm playing with you I thought you wanted that no, the goal, though I I mean I'm sharing information I'm just playing channeled because the goal is to get to that fourth and fifth dimensional place of experiencing things in a whole different way and in order to get there, we've got to change our frequency of not feeling like we're controlled, not feeling like somebody else is manipulating us to do something we don't want to do, and so we've been given the go ahead to start communicating that it's time for us to wake up and remember what we already knew.

Speaker 2:

It's time for us to remember that these were all negotiations that we put in place so that we could have experiences, so that we could experience it in a certain way.

Speaker 1:

It's all a big game of risk.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's a mystery, because we find puzzles and mysteries exciting and interesting, even if humanly, they seem difficult or challenging and not pleasant at the time. Getting that place where we are back to looking at it as an exciting and inquisitive thing Wow, look at the mystery I got to you because when you go through something like that and you live in the hidden mystery of it and you figure out what the mystery was, it's quite fulfilling yeah even if you watch a show on tv.

Speaker 2:

What was that lady's name? Um, I'm gonna show my age, um murder.

Speaker 1:

She wrote yeah, I'm going to show my age Murder. She Wrote.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, or I mean any of those. It's very fulfilling to watch Sherlock. Holmes yeah, that's a very, very good one, my favorite Scooby-Doo. It's very interesting. Shaggy was a detective, and that's what keeps you hanging on is watching the mystery unfold and finding the conclusion of that mystery. Our lives are no different.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

When you have a mystery at hand going through the process of investigating it and finding the clues.

Speaker 1:

Do you think Scooby-Doo really talks? Do you think that dog really?

Speaker 2:

talks, of course.

Speaker 1:

I think so too.

Speaker 2:

All animals talk. It's just that most people are not in a place where they will allow themselves to hear. I agree. Look at Dr Doolittle.

Speaker 1:

It's a crazy movie.

Speaker 2:

We all have the ability to do that.

Speaker 1:

I'm just playing around, but they expose us to Scooby-Doo many, many ways as a child. Of course, and on the show they have a dog, scooby-doo and Scrappy. They both talk.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and then you have a van full of hippies. Scrappy's better at it than Scooby-Doo.

Speaker 1:

You have a van full of hippies that wear the same clothes every day and they drive around in a van.

Speaker 2:

But let's talk about this.

Speaker 1:

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2:

They had the dog Scooby-Doo and he was able to communicate at his level by the whole rut-ro and it was a little bit hard to understand him. Then they create the next generation of character, scooby-doo, next generation of character, where he can speak very clearly English to the humans and communicate with the previous generation.

Speaker 1:

So you see the correspondence.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you know the correlation between all of it, the correlation between all of it Each generation of humans are being born with a higher level of functioning and closer and closer to where we're wanting to go. Each species of human is getting to that place where they don't necessarily need to, and we've talked about that. They don't need social engagement to be fulfilled and happy. They can sit around on social media and live in their virtual world and they're coming in on a different level of awakened and a different frequency and a different vibrational existence you know, there's all the conspiracy, everything out there that all marries together with the same process.

Speaker 1:

It is exposure, either downplaying or just completely wiping it away. And then the next part of it is is the human saying wait a minute, I want to know more about this? And so those three steps always happen in every conspiracy theory.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

And I think the first part of it, what you just said was is you're right, we signed up for all this, this human existence of this collective consciousness, all signed up for this, for the experiences, and to realize that your human is curious about it because you're here for the experience. You're not here for that particular conspiracy, you're here for the experience. You're not here for that particular conspiracy, you're here for that experience and the experience of the conspiracy.

Speaker 2:

Right, and the reason that you're curious about it is because what it did is it tapped on an area of your being that already knows about it?

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And wonders, because there's some sort of remembering that frequency.

Speaker 1:

Yes, and so the I think the last thing I would like to talk about on the conspiracy theory talk was are our government leaders lizards? Are they lizard people?

Speaker 2:

Some of them are yes.

Speaker 1:

Because have you seen? I've seen lots of little videos and stuff of things where weird things happen. Again they could be manipulated. But they could not be manipulated. They could be put out there just in a way to make us think they're manipulated. Put out there just in a way to make us think they're manipulated.

Speaker 2:

Well, the thinking that they're manipulated by the humans that are not quite there yet, it's easier to have a perspective of To sprinkle it in there for them.

Speaker 2:

I don't have to embrace this concept right now or at all, if I don't want to, if I'm not there yet, by saying, oh, they manipulated the video, that's a permission slip to not experience it right now, because there still is that level of beings, humans, out there that will not, in this lifetime, ever embrace the concept, because that's how they chose to experience it and and so that's how the manipulating videos and being able to came about is it essentially gives them a permission slip not to accept the information as it really is.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but it's still, but it's still planted in their subconscious.

Speaker 2:

Those that are at the next level and the next level. And the next level then, yes, the aliens and the different types of species. They are living among us. They just are doing it in such a way that is visually acceptable, so that we can get to a place where we're not afraid of them.

Speaker 1:

It's like on that show, ghost Whisperer with her dead husband. That's in a different body.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

When she looks at him he looks like her husband, but when everybody else sees her, it looks like the guy that was dead Right, and so that's kind of the same thing is we have been trained that they look a certain way Right, and so when they do look another way, we still see them that way.

Speaker 2:

Of course, that's how your beliefs, patterns and programs come into play is? It provides a pair of glasses, if you will, a pair of glasses, if you will, on how you're going to see the world around you and what you choose to see whenever you look through that pair that you have on.

Speaker 1:

And so when you look at me, just remember to adjust your glasses that. I've got the body of a 22-year-old. I'm jacked. I've got a 44-inch chest. I've got 20-inch biceps Okay so go ahead and adjust-inch biceps, okay. So go ahead and adjust that belief for me.

Speaker 2:

Okay, hold on, let me adjust that.

Speaker 1:

Because you're programmed to see me as a chubby 50.

Speaker 2:

Only because you programmed me that way I'm playing. And so those that are ready to see that the lizard people are living among us because their frequency has elevated to a point where they are allowing themselves to be open minded enough to be able to see the true reality of it. Then they will catch the eyelids changing in some video conference and they'll toy with the idea of oh my gosh, I saw that. I wonder if it's real.

Speaker 1:

Or is it? Is it memory?

Speaker 2:

Is it? Oh God, I cannot get anything completed here guys.

Speaker 1:

He is just goofing around. I don't even know. What do you mean? What am I doing? I didn't interrupt you, I'm just adding to your comment.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

No, the reality is you said it right is 100%.

Speaker 2:

Did I ever get to a point where I got to say anything?

Speaker 1:

Are you kidding me? Let's ask the editor how long of this podcast did you talk? Did you not complete your topic?

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, I'm just jacking with you.

Speaker 1:

Oh, so you're making me feel bad here.

Speaker 2:

I'm not making you do anything. You're choosing to feel bad. It's your fault If you're offended, then you need to look at yourself.

Speaker 1:

No, if I'm chubby, you need to look at yourself. No, if I'm chubby, you need to look at your beliefs.

Speaker 1:

Okay, I'm playing and so conspiracy theories, guys, we gotta remember we've correct, we create our reality, we, we have built this into our. Uh, I let me, let me back up. The reason why I want to talk about this topic is because I watched thousands of people in this forum fight, argue, you know, cuss, all this stupid stuff, and back and forth on two different opinions, and neither side is open and receptive to really have a true discussion about it and a discussion that creates balance. Instead, they're right there. It's kind of like the, the republicans and democrats, the, the you know players and the coaches, the referees and the you know whatever. It's just all, there's all the contrast within it, and they're not open to think about it. Then reality is that they've created all of it yeah, well, there's gonna be.

Speaker 2:

like I said, there's that group of people that are just not going to evolve to that next dimension of existence, to where they're open and ready to receive the information. So they will stay in that lower dimension. Yeah, and they will continue to argue about it.

Speaker 1:

Stay in the drama. Stay in the drama. Is it accepting as a reality?

Speaker 2:

well, and the thing is is that if there's a group that wants to have it only their way, the only way they can have it only their way is if there is a group that is an opposition, because the opposition is what brings about the existence of having it only my way, because if they don't know that there's another way, then they can't have it only their way.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I get it, so it has to be that way. Understood.

Speaker 2:

How many times can I say way in a sentence?

Speaker 1:

I don't know. You said that a whole bunch right there. Can I make an?

Speaker 2:

entire paragraph of way and make it make sense. I did a pretty good job right there.

Speaker 1:

You did do a bunch of it. You said way like 19 times in two sentences.

Speaker 2:

Curdles and ways.

Speaker 1:

Anyway, do you feel complete?

Speaker 2:

I'm good, yeah, okay, I mean, I'll talk about it forever, or we can end it now.

Speaker 1:

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